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No, but "yelling go home, idiot" particularly when it is done while harassing people eating dinner reduces political discourse to that of a Banana Republic. If this is acceptable behaviour towards the Trump administration will it be be acceptable behaviour when the next Democratic Administration is in office?
 

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Sanders may have violated the Whitehouse ethics, as she used her official govt account to condemn a private business for personal reasons.

https://deadline.com/2018/06/sarah-...iolation-says-former-ethics-chief-1202416417/
Oh dear! Like someone else using a personal account for official business? Anyone who has ever had to juggle business and personal email accounts, multiple computers or business and personal phones will sympathize.

It still makes a great club to bash your enemies with when you know your bloodlusting audience has never had to to cope with such stuff. We note @RealTrump, or whatever he posts as, never has.
 

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No, but "yelling go home, idiot" particularly when it is done while harassing people eating dinner reduces political discourse to that of a Banana Republic. If this is acceptable behaviour towards the Trump administration will it be be acceptable behaviour when the next Democratic Administration is in office?
So does "Lock'er UP!!!" Where were you then?
 

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Kicking someone out of a restaurant based on race, sexuality or another qualifier for which the person has no control is wrong.
Kicking someone out of a restaurant because they are an asshole and back asshole policies by their own choice is totally acceptable.
Manners are of more importance than laws. Upon them in a great measure, the Laws depend. The Law touches us but here and there, and now and then. Manners are what vex or soothe, corrupt or purify, exalt or debase, barbarize or refine us, by a constant, steady, uniform, insensible operation, like that of the air we breathe in. They give their whole form and color to our lives. According to their quality, they aid morals, they supply them, or they totally destroy them. — Edmund Burke.

When you open the doors of your restaurant, you invite everyone in. You are the host. You do not let them sit only to throw them out. That's the behaviour of the barbarous and uncivilized. This restaurant owner belongs in the company of those he rejected.

His country needs better.
 

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Lessons from Jamaica. in the 1970s-1980s political parties aligned with Dons for the purpose of voter intimidation. is the U.S.A following jamaica's footsteps?



Garrisons in Jamaica have often emerged as neighborhoods that are don- ruled shadow versions of the official State. These are poor inner city communities characterized by homogeneous and, in some cases, over-voting patterns for one of Jamaica's two major political parties: the Peoples National Party (PNP) or the Jamaica Labor Party (JLP). This presentation, based on my 2011 dissertation, will give a brief analysis of the garrison phenomenon and how they have evolved. The impact of drug and gun trafficking on the power of dons will also be discussed.

About This Speaker:
Dr. Damion Blake was a 2011-2012 Drugs, Security and Democracy (DSD) dissertation fellow. He recently completed his PhD in Political Theory and Policy in the Alliance for Social, Political, Ethical and Cultural Thought (ASPECT Program) at Virginia Tech with his project titled "Violent Actors and Embedded Power: Exploring the Evolving Roles of Jamaica's Dons." Blake holds a Bachelor of Arts (BA.) and a Master of Science (MSc.) from the University of the West Indies (UWI) at Mona, Jamaica. He taught as an Assistant Lecturer in the Department of Government at UWI (2005-2008) and in the departments of History and Political Science at Virginia Tech. Currently he is an Assistant Adjunct Professor in the Department of Political Science at Virginia Tech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQXaF6wRmJw
 

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Florida Attorney General spoke with FOX and Friends on Monday after after being verbally assaulted, threatened and bullied by raging leftists at a movie theater on Saturday night.

Bondi, the popular Attorney General from the great state of Florida, has been a long-time target of unhinged left. She told FOX and Friends “three huge guys” came up to her and started screaming at her and cursing her an inch from her face. The violent leftists then turned on her boyfriend and tried to provoke him into a physical altercation.

Bondi told FOX and Friends one of the men spit on her while he was screaming. Bondi added that she did not know if this was intentional but occurred because he was screaming so close to her face.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-inch-from-my-face-one-spit-on-my-head-video/
 

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Florida Attorney General spoke with FOX and Friends on Monday after after being verbally assaulted, threatened and bullied by raging leftists at a movie theater on Saturday night.

Bondi, the popular Attorney General from the great state of Florida, has been a long-time target of unhinged left. She told FOX and Friends “three huge guys” came up to her and started screaming at her and cursing her an inch from her face. The violent leftists then turned on her boyfriend and tried to provoke him into a physical altercation.

Bondi told FOX and Friends one of the men spit on her while he was screaming. Bondi added that she did not know if this was intentional but occurred because he was screaming so close to her face.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-inch-from-my-face-one-spit-on-my-head-video/
How is this relevant?
 

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It's shocking that anyone can support this restaurant's illegal behaviour.
I don't think it's illegal to refuse service because you don't like a politician, their political aides, or their supporters. Maybe the baker should have just asked whether the gay couple were Democrats? Would have been a lot less expensive.

p.s. Smallcock, could you please get a new sig picture? Yikes!
 

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Because other administrations have not been willing to take the heat of confining asylum seekers who illegally enter the country until their petition is heard. Further you may not agree with the policy but thus far saying that the children are being kept in substandard conditions just isn't true.

As already said a very great deal of this problem could be addressed by implementing e-verify and increasing policing aid to Central American states rather than threatening to decrease it.
The fact that they have been taken from their parents is the primary outrage. Whether they are fed and given clean, dry concrete to sleep on in whichever nameless, distant kiddie-jail they are penned is secondary.

If the current administration - or any administration - wants to "play hardball" with desperate people who attempt to get into the USA, then it had better develop a reasonable, legal and constitutionally acceptable way of doing this. And this probably involves keeping assholes like Stephen Miller and Jeff Sessions away from the drafting and managing of those measures and spending enough money to make those steps acceptable. If you think Trump or any of his puppets and stooges has the ability and focus to do this, then surprise me and tell me that.
 

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No, but "yelling go home, idiot" particularly when it is done while harassing people eating dinner reduces political discourse to that of a Banana Republic. If this is acceptable behaviour towards the Trump administration will it be be acceptable behaviour when the next Democratic Administration is in office?
So what?

Am I responsible for people who shout at politicians? Is Old Jones? Is the Democratic Party? Is the State of Florida?

Sanders night was ruined. There are larger things happening in the world today - except in the minds of the GOP faithful who will keep on and on and on about this until the next "leftie outrage" happens when Seb Gorka or some other jerk is told to "go fuck himself" while walking down Pennsylvania Avenue. And then you and your friends will tell us all over again how the world is coming to an end.
 

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So what?

Am I responsible for people who shout at politicians? Is Old Jones? Is the Democratic Party? Is the State of Florida?

Sanders night was ruined. There are larger things happening in the world today - except in the minds of the GOP faithful who will keep on and on and on about this until the next "leftie outrage" happens when Seb Gorka or some other jerk is told to "go fuck himself" while walking down Pennsylvania Avenue. And then you and your friends will tell us all over again how the world is coming to an end.
No its not coming to an end. But it will only send away from politics more people who should be in it.

Would you run in todays climate? And when taking a job can result in things like this the highly qualified will be even less prone to apply or accept.

And what will we be left with?
 

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No its not coming to an end. But it will only send away from politics more people who should be in it.

Would you run in todays climate? And when taking a job can result in things like this the highly qualified will be even less prone to apply or accept.

And what will we be left with?
I think US politics has always required a thick skin. Add to that, things are more polarized these days and the internet and the 24/7 News Channels continually feed on outrage.

Go back in time to, say the American Civil War and the razzing and hooting that Sanders got would be minor given the duels, fisticuffs and insults which were casually bandied about in Washington DC.

And sure. I'd run in today's climate. And if Bottom or Buddy kicked me out of their restaurant, I'd go with a smirk and a shrug and not make a fuss about it.
 

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No its not coming to an end. But it will only send away from politics more people who should be in it.

Would you run in todays climate? And when taking a job can result in things like this the highly qualified will be even less prone to apply or accept.

And what will we be left with?
We;'re there already. Look how politely the black guy and the lesbian were treated, and the bottom of the barrel choices that replaced them.
 

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We;'re there already. Look how politely the black guy and the lesbian were treated, and the bottom of the barrel choices that replaced them.
Well, in a world where a presidential candidate openly mocks an autistic reporter, Black men and alleged lesbians should know better than to enter politics........................
 

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And sure. I'd run in today's climate. And if Bottom or Buddy kicked me out of their restaurant, I'd go with a smirk and a shrug and not make a fuss about it.
Is Buddy me, or another poster? I couldn't imagine kicking someone out of my establishment over their political views. In fact, I've previously posted that, as a conservative, I understand that the world also needs liberal thinking.

I'm reminded of an acquaintance. He had what I would call an excellent "divergent" mind. He could see many possibilities that others could not. However, left to his own devices, he was very inefficient. He wasted too much time and resources chasing all of these possibilities, regardless of how low the odds were of their applicability or return. However, if you paired this person up with a "convergent" thinker, someone who wasn't much for original thought, but excellent at culling down ideas to a manageable focus, you had the very best of working partnerships.

That's how I view the the relationship between liberal and conservative thinkers. I find it disappointing how many people don't share this view, and instead believe that only one type of thinking is optimal.
 

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Well, in a world where a presidential candidate openly mocks an autistic reporter,.......................
And was pretty roundly criticized for it. (and the defense was well he treats everyone like that).

I'm certain you aren't advocating a race to the bottom, because one person does it we should all behave like this. It was the "breakdown of reasoned discourse" which in large measure led to the U.S. Civil War, I really don't think that would be a wise path to again follow.
 

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And was pretty roundly criticized for it. (and the defense was well he treats everyone like that).

I'm certain you aren't advocating a race to the bottom, because one person does it we should all behave like this. It was the "breakdown of reasoned discourse" which in large measure led to the U.S. Civil War, I really don't think that would be a wise path to again follow.
I'm not advocating a race to anything. I'm simply suggesting that far too much attention gets paid these days to small, passing incidents at the expense of larger issues.

There will always be people who smirk at autistic children and say "wonk, wonk" or who say "cotton-picking" in an effort to annoy Black colleagues. But I normally don't trouble to post in those threads either. Politics is a business which demands a thick skin and US politics in particular is not known for its good manners. Nothing has changed over the years. But at least these days, people get driven out of movie theatres or chased out of restaurants and not shot in duels like Hamilton or Canning.
 
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