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When I was growing up I had a neighbour who was growing up to become a bonafide knockout. She suffered a childhood stroke. For teenagers a stroke is not usually lethal but it does leave facial muscles impaired. I supported her as best I could when she returned to school, but it didn't take long for her peers to learn that she hadn't changed. She's in her early 50's now and still looks amazing.

I just found out that Games of Thrones: The Mountain also sustained a childhood stroke. A video is posted in the Life after Thrones thread.
 

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That said, getting blowjobs from and fucking women that I could also see on TV or in a magazine shoot did have its good moments ;) ha ha ha
Ya I miss watching reruns of Melrose Place & thinking about the hot steamy nights with Heather Locklear or Baywatch & the times I tagged Pamela Anderson on the beach...shit forgot about that threesum with Giselle Bundchen & Cindy Crawford. ROTFL!

To answer the OP's question never dated someone unattractive because of their "winning" personality...I'm way too shallow for that! What I can say is that dating a hot girl does give you an ego boost & feels like somewhat of an accomplishment but...finding an intelligent one with a good personality, high sex drive, independent, athletic, & can laugh at herself...has been a lifelong challenge! Had a few with a little more than half those attributes but that's as close as I've come. Bro says keep chasing that unicorn it's only been 25yrs no sense stopping now lol
 

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To answer the OP's question never dated someone unattractive because of their "winning" personality...I'm way too shallow for that! What I can say is that dating a hot girl does give you an ego boost & feels like somewhat of an accomplishment but...finding an intelligent one with a good personality, high sex drive, independent, athletic, & can laugh at herself...has been a lifelong challenge! Had a few with a little more than half those attributes but that's as close as I've come. Bro says keep chasing that unicorn it's only been 25yrs no sense stopping now lol
Good luck with finding the Unicorn. Funny what we do to ourselves along the way. Been lucky to date some attractive women, even married one. Didn't work out and I thought valuable lesson learned. Fast forward...was dating a pretty, gnd blonde, liked her alot and clicked without effort. She...she was a joy to be with, and very vocal in bed which I love btw. Long story short - dumped her, hurt her badly, for a more attractive brunette who in turn dumped me. This is where it gets weird...find another not long after that who looked very much like the brunette, dated her, married a second time after short, torrid romance, and discovered personality traits too late that I found challenging . Still married, not unhappy but not happy, life has been a mediocre affair almost from the start.

Think of the gnd blonde every day. Miss her. Haven't spoken to her since. Think I found my unicorn and didn't recognize her.
 

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What an interesting thread. I've never really thought about this.

In my opinion, for marriage, its really going to be what's inside that counts. It's important that her values and moral belief system matches yours, and that the two of you have found a way to share the workload that is life.

Anecdotally, I find women who are super gorgeous (physically + sense of style + healthy lifestyle) who went through some ugly duckling stages in life have been the best combination of personality and looks. The women I've dated who truly lived being an awkward teenager, or found her sense of style late in life, or perhaps gained a ton of weight at one point in time yielded a great combination of humility and confidence.

I now tend to stay away from women who've been in beauty contests, pageants or acting since they were kids.
 

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Watched this last night & couldn't stop laughing. Had a company meeting this afternoon with seven guys & three ladies & decided to use this as an icebreaker. Everybody was on the floor laughing including the oldest female(late 50's) in attendance. Was in the "danger zone" quite a bit in my 20's & early 30's now i'm just looking for the unicorn...not the tranny!

Good luck with finding the Unicorn. Funny what we do to ourselves along the way. Been lucky to date some attractive women, even married one. Didn't work out and I thought valuable lesson learned. Fast forward...was dating a pretty, gnd blonde, liked her alot and clicked without effort. She...she was a joy to be with, and very vocal in bed which I love btw. Long story short - dumped her, hurt her badly, for a more attractive brunette who in turn dumped me. This is where it gets weird...find another not long after that who looked very much like the brunette, dated her, married a second time after short, torrid romance, and discovered personality traits too late that I found challenging . Still married, not unhappy but not happy, life has been a mediocre affair almost from the start.

Think of the gnd blonde every day. Miss her. Haven't spoken to her since. Think I found my unicorn and didn't recognize her.
I hear you brother, dated a fantastic girl in my early 20's. Athletic, above gnd pretty, great linage, smart, nurturing & treated me like a damn king. She finished teaching school & wanted to get married & start a family in a few years... I bailed & headed to the west coast with this smoking hot bartender. Kinda broke her heart (& my mom really hated me for it), but she was smart & good looking so she eventually found the right guy. She's now a vice principal & still a very good looking women with three cute kids, all these years later sends my mom a birthday card or takes her out for lunch. Met her hubby last year when I joined the old man hockey league & have to say she met a really nice guy, can't play hockey worth a shit but still a nice guy! Tina was my unicorn, wish I would have been smart enough to recognize it.
 

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I once dated a really hot, ddg man. He's a sweetheart and we're still friends. He's gay now. (lol) But I remember women would very openly hit on him right in front of me and one even asked him (in front of me) "What are you doing with her?"


I often find myself attracted to men that a lot of women wouldn't find attractive. I don't know why. I think I'm attracted to features like big noses and love handles. LOL Also, personality and intelligence are MUCH more important to me. If I can sit with a man by the fireplace and be able to talk for hours, that's perfect.
 
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frankcastle

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depends on what you mean by "be with"
a) sex..... hot
b) date.... hot
c) marry.... too many other criteria
d) other
 

kherg007

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What an interesting thread. I've never really thought about this.

In my opinion, for marriage, its really going to be what's inside that counts. It's important that her values and moral belief system matches yours, and that the two of you have found a way to share the workload that is life.

Anecdotally, I find women who are super gorgeous (physically + sense of style + healthy lifestyle) who went through some ugly duckling stages in life have been the best combination of personality and looks. The women I've dated who truly lived being an awkward teenager, or found her sense of style late in life, or perhaps gained a ton of weight at one point in time yielded a great combination of humility and confidence.

I now tend to stay away from women who've been in beauty contests, pageants or acting since they were kids.
+1.
Took the observations right out of my keyboard lol. I was going to say pretty all her life = she doesn't have much pressure to develop or learn other skills to socially navigate the world. Just smile if she wants something. Girls who went through awkward phases or not cute as kids = did have to develop other skills and empathy too. In fact one knockout I dated was always pretty but she was sweet and kind...this may seem to be an exception to the rule above..but, I believe, she was great because she had a down's syndrome brother. Thus she had to learn she cannot be the centre of attention, etc., and to care for others. Again, all these observations are trends, not guarantees. But I have noticed that.

A related hazard is dating a disproportionate big boob gal. Looks galore from people staring at her...and if you leave her alone for a minute then like cockroaches other dudes start appearing around her lol. Gotta chase them off all the time.
 

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I prefer one with a heart of gold than one who thinks her pussy is made of gold.
 

KaaliaMorrow

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I find the concept really subjective and moot.

Let's take, for example, the show "100% Hotter" (a name that absolutely disgusts me with it's implications). The show basically takes goths, rockers, punks, etc and makes them Top 40 ready. Personally, I found the majority of the people advertised (I refuse to watch the show because it validates it's presence of netflix via watch numbers) more attractive and "hotter" before they stripped them of everything that made them who they were.
 

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A related hazard is dating a disproportionate big boob gal. Looks galore from people staring at her...and if you leave her alone for a minute then like cockroaches other dudes start appearing around her lol. Gotta chase them off all the time.
Lol, noticed this alot in the gym. When an attractive woman is there men tend to cluster in that area. Funny to watch as the space becomes lop sided with testosterone. On a related note, I have no problem moving from one machine to another if I stay on the opposite side of the gym.
 

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In terms of marriage, probably the average-looking girl. Looks fade, and those who are hot when young often tend to have issues that you can't overlook once those good looks are gone. It's a failing of men that we can overlook them to begin with.

When I was 22, I dated a stunning 28-year-old. Tall, brunette, busty, and spunky...was fucking awesome! After I graduated though, we drifted apart, though still kept in touch. And with that separation I began to remember the parts that weren't so awesome. The selfishness, the lack of substance, etc. Eventually she bagged a rich banker guy (a friend of mine). Fast forward to now and she makes him miserable as hell. She's desperately trying to cling to her youth, and has had several rather poor cosmetic procedures performed in that pursuit. Her spunk is gone, replaced by bitterness and envy. When I last saw her four months ago she was drunk and actually tried to make-out with me and give me a handjob, rambling about how great we were together and how she missed that. I got the fuck out of there.

Obviously that one instance is anecdotal. But the general rule holds: beauty is mildly, negatively correlated with character. That goes for both men and women, though I believe the correlation is stronger in women because of historical standards surrounding beauty. For men I think the correlation is between power and character.
very well said and thanks for sharing your example.

yes, everyone is superficial at the start and most superficial throughout.
 
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