I know the driver shoulda stopped, but WTF was this cyclist thinking...OMG!!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1009910043813302272
https://twitter.com/i/status/1009910043813302272
According to the video and the Google maps posted on that Twitter feed the cyclist was proceeding properly on a marked bike path that crosses the on-ramp from left to right of the video, and clearly visible to cars approaching the crossing. The car did not signal their right turn, nor perceptibly slow down, and was well off centre on the left side of the ramp when it struck the cyclist, throwing them over the hood and onto the ground.I know the driver shoulda stopped, but WTF was this cyclist thinking...OMG!!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1009910043813302272
The problem is that cyclists are totally aware of this, but drivers are unaware how easy it is to kill someone by mistake.Cyclists never seem to understand that they and their bicycle will always lose against hundreds of pounds of steel.
When the cyclist began their legal, swift and proper crossing there was no car approaching. Awareness is all well and good, and as Frank says, they already know that.Cyclists never seem to understand that they and their bicycle will always lose against hundreds of pounds of steel.
That should be charged as attempted murder.The Star has an article on how many times drivers hit cyclists and take off, and how the police don't do anything.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...it-was-the-beginning-of-his-frustrations.html
?????????One of the side effects of building bike lanes and bike paths is the inevitable increase of the interaction between cars and cyclists. ...
I believe it's the cyclist's responsibility to ensure the crossing is clear before proceeding. The vehicle was well on the ramp before the cyclist was. It is true that failing to signal and the abrupt turn of the driver could have confused the cyclist, but that doesn't absolve him of responsibility.When the cyclist began their legal, swift and proper crossing there was no car approaching.
That cyclist should not ride on the streets with the cars. A clear and deserving candidate for a Darwin award.?????????
You do get that bike lanes make a place for cyclists to be instead of sharing the lanes with cars right?
But yes, stupid cyclist. Even when a cyclist is in the right they are the ones putting themselves at risk.
If the driver was acting as if they weren't going on the ramp, and made a sudden turn without signalling, then the cyclist would have thought the way was clear before they started crossing.I believe it's the cyclist's responsibility to ensure the crossing is clear before proceeding. The vehicle was well on the ramp before the cyclist was. It is true that failing to signal and the abrupt turn of the driver could have confused the cyclist, but that doesn't absolve him of responsibility.
It's similar to a driver turning left at an intersection and an oncoming driver runs a late amber. You're not expecting him to, but it's your responsibility to only turn when you know it's safe.
And for those questions of who was actually moving where, when, we have courts, although years of whining about insurance rates have made it almost impossible to get to them.I believe it's the cyclist's responsibility to ensure the crossing is clear before proceeding. The vehicle was well on the ramp before the cyclist was. It is true that failing to signal and the abrupt turn of the driver could have confused the cyclist, but that doesn't absolve him of responsibility.
It's similar to a driver turning left at an intersection and an oncoming driver runs a late amber. You're not expecting him to, but it's your responsibility to only turn when you know it's safe.
The cyclist in the video was using the official bike path exactly as prescribed, and was not "on the streets with cars". The car driver was not only careless and unobservant, but broke more than one traffic law.That cyclist should not ride on the streets with the cars. A clear and deserving candidate for a Darwin award.
There are many ways a car can hit you when on a bicycle. Get side swiped, get cut off when turning right, get backed into from a parked position, or even parked get door treatment.
What happened on that video was gross and absurd. The cyclist got hit head on head. He/she could not sense any danger, and got whacked.
We cannot know what the cyclist thought, but we can see the driver never signalled, and swerved to go up the ramp at speed, at the last moment before being forced to continue straight.If the driver was acting as if they weren't going on the ramp, and made a sudden turn without signalling, then the cyclist would have thought the way was clear before they started crossing.
As did the cyclist. They should not have proceeded until the way was clear. They made an assumption that the car wasn't going to use the ramp instead of making sure. The actions of the driver do not eliminate the cyclist's responsibility. Most of us are aware the consequences for cyclists go well beyond getting a ticket so when on a bike we take extra precautions to make sure we aren't road kill.The cyclist in the video was using the official bike path exactly as prescribed, and was not "on the streets with cars". The car driver was not only careless and unobservant, but broke more than one traffic law.
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Where was the point of contact of the collision?The cyclist in the video was using the official bike path exactly as prescribed, and was not "on the streets with cars". The car driver was not only careless and unobservant, but broke more than one traffic law.
Not forgetting that after crashing into the cyclist and throwing them over the front of the car onto the road, the driver stopped for a few seconds, then scrammed. If anyone shouldn't be on the streets with cars, it is this driver.
Sorry but your own words contradict your harsh judgment of the cyclist, they couldn't possibly make "…an assumption that the car wasn't going to use the ramp", if the car was already using it. But if the car wasn't already on the ramp, and not signalling they intended to use it, are you saying the cyclist must wait to cross until there are no cars on Hurontario who might unpredictably swerve up the ramp?As did the cyclist. They should not have proceeded until the way was clear. They made an assumption that the car wasn't going to use the ramp instead of making sure. The actions of the driver do not eliminate the cyclist's responsibility. Most of us are aware the consequences for cyclists go well beyond getting a ticket so when on a bike we take extra precautions to make sure we aren't road kill.
And from the video, the cyclist was still on the side-walk when the car began its turn. At 4s in the vid, the car is clearly in the ramp lane and the cyclist is still a couple m from the road. They would have had to break hard but the need to break should be assumed before crossing a road.