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IG confirms he is reviewing whether Strzok's anti-Trump bias impacted launch of Russia probe


Inspector general Michael Horowitz testifies before joint hearing of the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees on whether anti-Trump FBI agent Peter Strzok's political bias affected the initiation of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz confirmed Tuesday that he is investigating whether FBI official Peter Strzok’s anti-Trump bias factored into the launch of the bureau’s Russia probe.

During a joint hearing before the House Oversight and Judiciary committees, Horowitz testified that his office was reviewing Strzok’s anti-Trump text messages as part of a separate probe related to the Russia investigation.

“It clearly shows a biased state of mind,” Horowitz said, referring to text messages written as the FBI probe of Hillary Clinton's private email use was wrapping up and the Russia probe was getting underway.

The most infamous text, revealed in last week's IG report on the Clinton email case, showed Strzok responding "We'll stop it" when his colleague and lover Lisa Page sought assurances that Trump would not become president.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., questioned Horowitz on whether that apparent bias influenced the initiation of the investigation into Russia interference in the 2016 campaign and potential collusion with Trump's team.

“That’s a matter we’ve got under review and are looking at right now,” Horowitz said.

It was revealed earlier this year that Horowitz’s office was investigating allegations of government surveillance abuse tied to the start of the Russia probe. But Horowitz’s testimony, meant to answer questions about the conclusion of the Clinton case review, revealed some of the specifics involved in the ongoing Russia case review, including the Strzok texts.

Goodlatte pressed Horowitz over the politically charged text messages -- which the report described as “hostile” -- and noted how several were sent near the start of the Russia probe.

“Correct,” Horowitz said. “In fact, there were these other text messages in roughly the same time period.”

The exchange came minutes after House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., also outlined the curious timing of a string of texts between Strzok and Page, just as the Russia probe, which Strzok was involved in, was beginning.

Gowdy laid out a timeline—beginning July 5, 2016 when Comey recommended no criminal charges against Clinton, to July 28, 2016, when the FBI initiated a counterintelligence investigation into the Russia issue.

“Three weeks after Clinton is exonerated by Comey, Strzok is leading the investigation into Russia and coordination with the Trump campaign,” Gowdy said Tuesday.

“And damn this feels momentous. Because this matters. The other one did, too, but that was to ensure we didn’t F something up. This matters because this MATTERS,” Strzok texted just days after the Russia probe began in July 2016.

“It almost sounds like they were going through the motions with the Clinton investigation—but boy they sure were excited about the Russia one,” Gowdy said.

Gowdy noted that on Aug. 6, 2016, Page texted Strzok, who was leading the FBI’s Russia investigation, telling him that he was “meant to protect the country from that menace.”

But a new text revealed in Horowitz’s report last week, from Aug. 8, 2016, revealing Strzok vowing to “stop” Trump from becoming president.

According to the report, Page texted Strzok in August 2016 and said: “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”

“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok responded.

Gowdy said that text message was evidence that Strzok had “already prejudged the outcome,” noting that Strzok “already determined Trump should not be president of the United States” just days into the investigation.

By August 15, 2016, Strzok and Page texted about an “insurance policy” should Trump become president.

“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office - that there’s no way he gets elected - but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Strzok texted on Aug. 15, 2016. “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

Horowitz testified, in response to Gowdy’s timeline and the texts between Strzok and Page, that the bias found here was “extremely serious.”

“I can’t imagine FBI agents even suggesting that they would use their powers to investigate any candidate for office,” Horowitz said. “I thought this was completely antithetical to the core values of the department and extremely serious.”

The office of the inspector general, though, found no evidence that the bias found impacted prosecutorial decisions in the Clinton email probe.
 

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Here we go.......
 

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I don’t see how this allegation has any legs unless you believe that Peter Strzok single-handedly launched the Russia probe...he didn’t.

The factors leading to the initiation of the Russia probe are already well documented.
 

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I don’t see how this allegation has any legs unless you believe that Peter Strzok single-handedly launched the Russia probe...he didn’t.

The factors leading to the initiation of the Russia probe are already well documented.
Yup. With McCabe and Lynch right in there.
 

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Yup. With McCabe and Lynch right in there.
You can smear the investigators all you like. Any reasonable person looking at the info before them would have concluded that it warranted further investigation. It would have been negligent not to.
 

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You can smear the investigators all you like. Any reasonable person looking at the info before them would have concluded that it warranted further investigation. It would have been negligent not to.
McCabe has already been found to be a liar by the FBI. And fired for it.

Lynch just happened to meet with Bill Clinton on a private jet in Arizona a couple of days before the closed the Clinton investigation.

C'mon........
 

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McCabe has already been found to be a liar by the FBI. And fired for it.

Lynch just happened to meet with Bill Clinton on a private jet in Arizona a couple of days before the closed the Clinton investigation.

C'mon........
It was a complete coincidence. Just like Papadopoulos running into an Australian ambassador who just happened to sign his name on a 25 million check donated to the Clinton Foundation. Pure, dumb luck. But, seriously. It was a brilliant move by Bill. He poisoned the investigation beyond the repair. No way the Obama's DOJ would dig for guilt after that. Especially with Hillary on the way to the White House.
 

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McCabe has already been found to be a liar by the FBI. And fired for it.

Lynch just happened to meet with Bill Clinton on a private jet in Arizona a couple of days before the closed the Clinton investigation.

C'mon........
So what is it you are accusing McCabe, Lynch, or Strzok of having done wrong regarding the Russia probe?

Did they make up the report from the Australian ambassador?

Did they lie about Carter Page’s Russian contacts?

You can’t swing a dead cat around the Trump Campaign Team without hitting a Russian FFS. If anything, the FBI under-reacted to these concerns...not to mention their keeping it all secret from the public (unlike what they did with Hillary).
 

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It was a complete coincidence. Just like Papadopoulos running into an Australian ambassador who just happened to sign his name on a 25 million check donated to the Clinton Foundation. Pure, dumb luck. But, seriously. It was a brilliant move by Bill. He poisoned the investigation beyond the repair. No way the Obama's DOJ would dig for guilt after that. Especially with Hillary on the way to the White House.
You realize Papadopoulos has plead guilty, right?

Nobody is making things up...all of this happened.
 

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So what is it you are accusing McCabe, Lynch, or Strzok of having done wrong regarding the Russia probe?

Did they make up the report from the Australian ambassador?

Did they lie about Carter Page’s Russian contacts?

You can’t swing a dead cat around the Trump Campaign Team without hitting a Russian FFS. If anything, the FBI under-reacted to these concerns...not to mention their keeping it all secret from the public (unlike what they did with Hillary).
The Dossier is false. The Hack of the DNC was an internal leak.

The basis of the investigation is unfounded.
 

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The Dossier is false. The Hack of the DNC was an internal leak.

The basis of the investigation is unfounded.
Nothing in the dossier has been discredited. Most of it has been validated by other sources.


The allegation that the DNC Hack was an internal leak is one of Trump’s made up talking points. The hack was done by the Russians...it is well documented. This isn’t even a point of serious debate.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn...ential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html


There was ample justification to launch the Russia investigation. Smearing the investigators does not change this. Any competent FBI Official would have done so.
 

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Nothing in the dossier has been discredited. Most of it has been validated by other sources.


The allegation that the DNC Hack was an internal leak is one of Trump’s made up talking points. The hack was done by the Russians...it is well documented. This isn’t even a point of serious debate.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn...ential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html


There was ample justification to launch the Russia investigation. Smearing the investigators does not change this. Any competent FBI Official would have done so.
We are in disagreement.


If the dossier was confirmed then charges against Trump would be pending. What has been confirmed is very basic information. In fact the press doesn't report on it's contents because it hasn't been confirmed. It's why only Buzzfeed woukd publish it. And are being sued for slander as we speak.

As to the hack. Why did the DNC REFUSE to allow the FBI access to their servers? That is in essence the crime scene. And the way the hackers could be traced.

Can you give a reasonable explanation for this simple thing? Strzok was in charge of this. Why would he accept no access? Especially in light of possible Russian hacking? If it was a national security matter why did the DNC REFUSE to cooperate?
 

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Strzok escorted out of the building on Friday, still on the payroll. it was also reported today that Comey is now under investigation for handling of classified reports and leaking.
We all know McCabe was found to be a liar. Horrowitz refused to answer if McCabe is under further investigation.
 

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We are in disagreement.


If the dossier was confirmed then charges against Trump would be pending. What has been confirmed is very basic information. In fact the press doesn't report on it's contents because it hasn't been confirmed. It's why only Buzzfeed woukd publish it. And are being sued for slander as we speak.

As to the hack. Why did the DNC REFUSE to allow the FBI access to their servers? That is in essence the crime scene. And the way the hackers could be traced.

Can you give a reasonable explanation for this simple thing? Strzok was in charge of this. Why would he accept no access? Especially in light of possible Russian hacking? If it was a national security matter why did the DNC REFUSE to cooperate?
The DNC did not refuse to cooperate. They turned over all info from the company they hired to investigate the hack. The FBI was satisfied with this.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hn-podesta-deny-cia-and-fbi-access-dnc-serve/

You are again insinuating things with no basis in fact...and in any case, Comey testified before congress that they did not need to inspect the servers. He was fine with the DNC’s Co-operation.

I’m not a computer expert...but the FBI IT experts seemed fine with this.
 

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The DNC did not refuse to cooperate. They turned over all info from the company they hired to investigate the hack. The FBI was satisfied with this.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hn-podesta-deny-cia-and-fbi-access-dnc-serve/

You are again insinuating things with no basis in fact...and in any case, Comey testified before congress that they did not need to inspect the servers. He was fine with the DNC’s Co-operation.

I’m not a computer expert...but the FBI IT experts seemed fine with this.
Just so we are direct. It was Strzok who accepted this. And his judgement is now under scrutiny for bias.

And a private company can easily falsify a copy of a server.

Again. Why did the DNC REFUSE to give the FBI access to the original servers? Why rely on the supposed conclusions of a private security company?

Is that standard investigative procedure for the FBI? I think not.
 

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Just so we are direct. It was Strzok who accepted this. And his judgement is now under scrutiny for bias.

And a private company can easily falsify a copy of a server.

Again. Why did the DNC REFUSE to give the FBI access to the original servers? Why rely on the supposed conclusions of a private security company?

Is that standard investigative procedure for the FBI? I think not.
Could you please post the evidence that Strzok made this decision. I looked and could not find anything.

In any case, as I said, the DNC did not refuse to hand over the servers. I assume that given the fact that they were in the middle of an election campaign they would have preferred not to upend their whole computer system by handing over their servers to the FBI but I’m just guessing.

All involved seemed fine with the decision at the time. Comey was fine with it after the fact. I’m not an expert in forensic computer investigation but I see no evidence that they leaked their own emails to Wiki Leaks...that doesn’t even make any sense. The FBI analysis unequivocally found the servers were hacked by Russia.






PS
https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/2016-presidential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html
 

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Just so we are direct. It was Strzok who accepted this. And his judgement is now under scrutiny for bias.

And a private company can easily falsify a copy of a server.
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Still more upset about a text from Strzok then you are that Russians were fucking with the election?
 

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You realize Papadopoulos has plead guilty, right?

Nobody is making things up...all of this happened.
Yes he did, to a process crime. After McCabe pleads guilty, he can really get to know Papadopoulos.... in the slammer.
 

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Still more upset about a text from Strzok then you are that Russians were fucking with the election?
Nope. That he botched and or interfered with bias into investigations.
 

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Could you please post the evidence that Strzok made this decision. I looked and could not find anything.

In any case, as I said, the DNC did not refuse to hand over the servers. I assume that given the fact that they were in the middle of an election campaign they would have preferred not to upend their whole computer system by handing over their servers to the FBI but I’m just guessing.

All involved seemed fine with the decision at the time. Comey was fine with it after the fact. I’m not an expert in forensic computer investigation but I see no evidence that they leaked their own emails to Wiki Leaks...that doesn’t even make any sense. The FBI analysis unequivocally found the servers were hacked by Russia.






PS
https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/2016-presidential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html
Again Comey is under fire for how it was handled. Strzok was escorted out of the building.
Strzok was also a co author of the statement exonerating Clinton and nerfing the language in it.

His hand is everywhere. Something is up. He is a top official. First assigned then removed from Mueller's team. Then shuffled to Human Resources. Now Suspended. Someone was protecting him. And trying to keep him in the bureau.

Time to tear his life apart. He is hiding something.
 
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