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Bud Plug said:
Maybe Donny's team has clued Justin in on the final deal? Maybe it's just Justin that's creating all of this anxiety for some by behaving as if he's "fighting hard" to keep the status quo? Wouldn't be the first negotiation I've seen where that's exactly how it had to play out.

As to your other question, it seems Trump always has time for jokes. Surely you can't see that as a fault?

And trade is not a "closed system" exactly. Productivity changes the volume of trade in addition to the rules of exchange. It is VERY possible to design a deal that increases the exports of BOTH countries while at the same time reducing the current trade imbalance in favour of Canada.
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I saw bits of his TV series, he's not the actor to pull-off the charade you described.

Easy for you to say, if we sell less to the USA, and buy more from them, we'll somehow sell more to them in a productivity-pie in the sky future; but if that was a real selling point, no one has mentioned it yet; most especially not Donny. Let me know when he does.

On your other point, If they were funny, they'd be jokes. He likely thought his locker room talk was amusing too. I see it as a fault that he has time for every trivial thing, but not for just doing his job. But then, it's the first real job he's ever had.
 
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Bud Plug said:
Some of you guys just don't understand Trump's humour. That statement by Trump was a joke.

You'd avoid working yourself up into a nervous breakdown if you started seeing Trump's actions as negotiations tactics on the way to a deal, rather than the shape of the deal itself. It's easy to know what he wants as a final result. A move towards equalization of the US trade balance with Canada and Mexico (largely for optics), but more importantly, some repatriation of work which left for, or was about to leave for, Mexico. Reducing the trade imbalance between Canada and the US would be of no consequence to Canadians, if the final deal increases trade by the both the US and Canada into each others markets so that exports overall to the US are not reduced. How Justin's team of SJW negotiators can't see their way out of this is beyond proof of their incompetence.
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The sunset clause is what is holding this up
It is totally unacceptable as it creates uncertainty & will by default drive business investment to the US at the expense of Canada
The US president can back out with six months notice, so no need to include a secondary ticking time bomb

Supply management is also an issue as
1. Our Framers do not have the scale to compete vs US farmers
2. The milk quotas have been used as collateral for a lot of debt, 1/3 of which has been guaranteed by a crown corporation. I believe $5 B is the dairy sector debt, $161 B for all farms
 
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Just a note to lighten the mood: This is the same speech in which the President claimed he was powerless to stop the separation of children from their illegally immigrating parents, and sneered that Justin talks big, but that he nonetheless was grateful for Canada helping out the USA in World War I and again in World War II.

All jokes, and the NFIB laughed. Appreciatively one hopes.
 
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