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Watch this speech half way thru Trump says Canadians are fed up with paying high prices for goods in Canada, we all know that its been talked about again and again, they sneak goods over from the u.s. to canada he uses the example of shoes they scuff them up so they can bring over more. We all have complained about prices of cars and more being cheaper in the states even when the loonie is higher. Its because of Canadian tarriffs he says. How many conversations have there been on terb about going to the states and sneaking goods back. Another great speech some off the cuff shows why he's president and will win a second term. Even previous haters are coming on board. He talks about immigration to..

https://www.c-span.org/video/?44729...rks-independent-business-celebration&live&vod
 
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I remember danmand giving advice about crossing the border to buy tires.
 
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Not that this has the slightest connection with Trump raising tariffs on steel and aluminum going the other way across the border. What he's talking about is the Canadian tariff on goods brought into Canada. If the shoes he talks about were made in North America, there is none. All Canadians have to pay at the border is HST. If they were made elsewhere, say in China, Canadians would do better to buy them at home, rather than pay the American duty which is part of the price, then an additional Canadian duty at the border. Whether you them at Mark's or Harry Rosen, you'll only pay the Canadian duty here.

Of course thye remedy to all this duty and tariff nonsense is free trade without such charges. That's how NAFTA is supposed to work (and does, see 'made in North America', above). But we know how Trump feels about that.

He doesn't care that he's talking silly nonsense and neither does his claque. they love it.
 
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I won’t buy anything Made in America as long as Trump is waging his trade war against my country.
 
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If you buy something by mail from the U.S. anything over $20 (even if made in the U.S.) is subject to duty. U.S. citizens can buy up to $800U.S. ($1050+ Cdn) duty free.
 
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onthebottom said:
I remember danmand giving advice about crossing the border to buy tires.
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As most of the time, you are wrong. Are you trolling again, or just dishonest?
 
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LT56 said:
I won’t buy anything Made in America as long as Trump is waging his trade war against my country.
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Agreed. Better to buy things in Canada that have been made in China and put Canadians out of work. I'm with ya!
 
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danmand said:
As most of the time, you are wrong. Are you trolling again, or just dishonest?
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No, really, it was one of those “buy Canadian” threads several years ago.
 
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No, really, it was one of those “buy Canadian” threads several years ago.
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You are dishonest. Simple as that. I have never in my life bought a tire in USA, and surely have not advised anybody to do so.
 
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dickydoem said:
If you buy something by mail from the U.S. anything over $20 (even if made in the U.S.) is subject to duty. U.S. citizens can buy up to $800U.S. ($1050+ Cdn) duty free.
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You may be conflating HST/GST with Customs duties. The Canada Post carriers who collect what's owed on mail-orders often do.

From the CBSA website:
Any item mailed to Canada may be subject to the Goods and Services Tax (GST) and/or duty. Unless specifically exempted, you must pay the 5% GST on items you import into Canada by mail. The CBSA calculates any duties owing based on the value of the goods in Canadian funds. The duty rates vary according to the type of goods you are importing and the country from which they came or were made in. Depending on the goods or their value, some other taxes may apply, such as excise duty or excise tax on luxury items.You do not have to pay the GST on the following goods that are imported into Canada by mail:

goods worth CAN$20 or less; and
gifts from family members or friends who live abroad when the worth is CAN$60 or less.

The Government of Canada has entered into agreements with certain provinces to collect the HST at a rate of 13 percent. If you live in a participating province, you will have to pay the HST instead of the GST.
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If you want the actual Customs Duty rates for a given product, they have an Estimator Page. And of course all of this is strictly between us Canucks and our folks in Ottawa, nothing at all to do with the USA, its tariffs, or its Dear Leader, who's just having his mean little joke, because Justin dissed him.

Same sorta 'sneak it in stuff' goes on when Americans want to bring home stuff they bought abroad with their high dollars, or 'prohibited imports' like Quebec Maple Syrup.
 
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oldjones said:
You may be conflating HST/GST with Customs duties. The Canada Post carriers who collect what's owed on mail-orders often do.

From the CBSA website:

If you want the actual Customs Duty rates for a given product, they have an Estimator Page. And of course all of this is strictly between us Canucks and our folks in Ottawa, nothing at all to do with the USA, its tariffs, or its Dear Leader, who's just having his mean little joke, because Justin dissed him.

Same sorta 'sneak it in stuff' goes on when Americans want to bring home stuff they bought abroad with their high dollars, or 'prohibited imports' like Quebec Maple Syrup.
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You missed the point but then you usually do.
 
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danmand said:
You are dishonest. Simple as that. I have never in my life bought a tire in USA, and surely have not advised anybody to do so.
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One of us is mis-remembering, and while I’m younger I’ll defer to you.
 
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Some of you guys just don't understand Trump's humour. That statement by Trump was a joke.

You'd avoid working yourself up into a nervous breakdown if you started seeing Trump's actions as negotiations tactics on the way to a deal, rather than the shape of the deal itself. It's easy to know what he wants as a final result. A move towards equalization of the US trade balance with Canada and Mexico (largely for optics), but more importantly, some repatriation of work which left for, or was about to leave for, Mexico. Reducing the trade imbalance between Canada and the US would be of no consequence to Canadians, if the final deal increases trade by the both the US and Canada into each others markets so that exports overall to the US are not reduced. How Justin's team of SJW negotiators can't see their way out of this is beyond proof of their incompetence.
 
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Some of you guys just don't understand Trump's humour. That statement by Trump was a joke.

You'd avoid working yourself up into a nervous breakdown if you started seeing Trump's actions as negotiations tactics on the way to a deal, rather than the shape of the deal itself. It's easy to know what he wants as a final result. A move towards equalization of the US trade balance with Canada and Mexico (largely for optics), but more importantly, some repatriation of work which left for, or was about to leave for, Mexico. Reducing the trade imbalance between Canada and the US would be of no consequence to Canadians, if the final deal increases trade by the both the US and Canada into each others markets so that exports overall to the US are not reduced. How Justin's team of SJW negotiators can't see their way out of this is beyond proof of their incompetence.
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If a closed system is unbalanced, you can only reduce the imbalance by taking from one party and giving to another. Although I don't believe it's 'merely re-balancing' Trump wants, nor that once balanced everyone will be better off than before, let's say that's true.

Why has Donny, the Master Deal Maker kept this simple fact under wraps, and not managed to spell it out it to either of his weaker, more needy partners? Why is he wasting time with jokes, for which he has always had less than no talent, and not selling the deal?

Any deal.
 
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Why has Donny, the Master Deal Maker kept this simple fact under wraps, and not managed to spell it out it to either of his weaker, more needy partners? Why is he wasting time with jokes, for which he has always had less than no talent, and not selling the deal?

Any deal.
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Maybe Donny's team has clued Justin in on the final deal? Maybe it's just Justin that's creating all of this anxiety for some by behaving as if he's "fighting hard" to keep the status quo? Wouldn't be the first negotiation I've seen where that's exactly how it had to play out.

As to your other question, it seems Trump always has time for jokes. Surely you can't see that as a fault?

And trade is not a "closed system" exactly. Productivity changes the volume of trade in addition to the rules of exchange. It is VERY possible to design a deal that increases the exports of BOTH countries while at the same time reducing the current trade imbalance in favour of Canada.
 
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