So kids can’t celebrate Fathers Day anymore in schools?

|2 /-\ | /|/ · Jun 17, 2018

It was nice to get a great surprise from my little one and could see she put lots of effort into it , but I could tell they didn’t do anything in her school for father day. For Mother’s Day they always do nice crafts and dedicate time and effort during school time. I asked my little one about it and she said that the teacher explained how some kids don’t have fathers and they don’t want to make them feel bad.

Was it always like this or did they just start doing this? Or is it only limited to certain schools? I don’t know how I feel about this, it definitely feels off and seems like another fucked up thing schools are doing to stay politically correct based on few narrow minded individuals who make this into a big deal.

Anyways happy Father’s Day to all the paps out there.

bazokajoe · Jun 17, 2018

I bet dollars to doughnuts the teacher is a divorced female. Alot of kids don;t have mothers either.
My dad passed away when I was 7 and when it was time for making things in school for father's day,I was just told make something for my mother.No big deal.

kkelso · Jun 17, 2018

bazokajoe said:
I bet dollars to doughnuts the teacher is a divorced female. Alot of kids don;t have mothers either.
My dad passed away when I was 7 and when it was time for making things in school for father's day,I was just told make something for my mother.No big deal.

I was wondering if the school was in an area where father-less families were more common. In the last city where I lived, a teacher told me that in her urban school 35% of kids had no live-in father.

KK

Smallcock · Jun 17, 2018

Where is her school located? A friend of mine had to pull his kid out of a school last year because he was getting into fights and getting threatened. When he sat down with the teacher, she explained that a lot of the boys causing the trouble don't have fathers at home.

managee · Jun 17, 2018

I can’t imagine it’s true, but maybe I’m wrong. I see a lot of new Father’s Day art on Insta and FB today.

Contact the teacher. If you’re not satisfied with the response, go up the chain. Principal, then superintendent then trustee. If you actually understand equity and feel they’ve crossed a line in policy, go to the media. Toronto Star is where I read all the stuff on schools and teachers fucking up.

I have a relative that came home from school without Christmas art/decorations, and he told his parents the school cancelled Christmas because the new Principal was Jewish. They called the school and found out the kid just didn’t do the activity.

Outrage seems like a poor go-to without actual investigation.

oral.com · Jun 17, 2018

I am so happy in my role as a father that everyday is Father’s Day to me. I really don’t need a Hallmark holiday to celebrate and my kids feel the same. However, god forbid you trivialize Mother’s Day in any form, even Satan himself would shake his head. The 8th deadly sin “ Forgetting Mother’s Day!!

|2 /-\ | /|/ · Jun 17, 2018

Smallcock said:
Where is her school located? A friend of mine had to pull his kid out of a school last year because he was getting into fights and getting threatened. When he sat down with the teacher, she explained that a lot of the boys causing the trouble don't have fathers at home.

Typical average Toronto subdivision/neighbourhood close to Mississauga. Average house price is 800k-1.3mil. Some mixed low income housing and couple of buildings nearby that qualify for school. The mixture is fairly evenly spread and probably European being very common amongst the groups living here. I doubt that the average kid without father is that high and nowhere near the 30%. Its also a Catholic school. Probably there a a few kids without fathers but the percentage i think would be low.

Also that is such bullshit that the school in your post referring to your friend is making excuses for these kids who are bullying without fathers. Doesn't that make it even worse by giving them a pass because they don’t have a father?

james t kirk · Jun 17, 2018

Kids without fathers. I didn't think of that angle.

When I was a kid, it seemed like everyone I went to school with had a father.

But there were 2 Brothers in my primary school that I knew who did not have a father. The story was that the father had died. I don't know if it was true or not, but I remember it. I remember the other parents speaking about it in whispers as if it was some sort of shame or worse contagious . The older brother had failed a year and was in my class in grade 4 and up. He was a bit of a tough kid, pop bottle glasses, stuck out a bit, but boy could he handle himself in a fight. I remember other kids used to mock him about not having a father and it hurt him a lot and he would lash out at them. One time the teacher corralled him after a fight and since he was a trouble maker of sorts she just focused in on him. But I remember he just blurted out that the other kids were making fun of him about him not having a father. The teacher just put her hands on her ears and said, "I don't want to hear it" , but she let him off the hook. (And those were the days of "the strap" and that was no joke.)

But here's the thing about that kid that I will never forget.....

When I was 9 I was seriously injured in a incident the details of which don't matter. I was off school for 6 weeks and when I finally came back, my injury was very noticeable and made me a target for the bullies and I was weak. This kid, who was never my friend before then (but who never was a bully either) became my protector. A body guard of sorts. He stuck to me and he protected me from the bullies. (And there were more than one.). When the kids started to taunt me about my appearance, he would jump right in in my defence. Every time. And no one would cross this kid. He was a saint without a dad.

We went to different schools after grade 6 and I lost track of him and I have no idea what happened to him.

But he was a saint and I'm thinking of him today on father's day with tears in my eyes. I hope you're well my friend.

True story.

managee · Jun 17, 2018

|2 /-\ | /|/ said:
Typical average Toronto subdivision/neighbourhood close to Mississauga. Average house price is 800k-1.3mil. Some mixed low income housing and couple of buildings nearby that qualify for school. The mixture is fairly evenly spread and probably European being very common amongst the groups living here. I doubt that the average kid without father is that high and nowhere near the 30%. Its also a Catholic school. Probably there a a few kids without fathers but the percentage i think would be low.

Also that is such bullshit that the school in your post referring to your friend is making excuses for these kids who are bullying without fathers. Doesn't that make it even worse by giving them a pass because they don’t have a father?

The fact that it’s a Catholic school makes me think there’s more to this story, and again, I suggest you contact the teacher. Sacramental marriage is taught in the school, or at-least it’s supposed to be.

I texted a Catholic teacher friend in a GTA board who told me Mother’s Day and Father’s Day crafts are easy for kids without dads or moms... they get them to do “Holy Father” or “Holy Mother” crafts instead.

Smallcock · Jun 17, 2018

james t kirk said:
Kids without fathers. I didn't think of that angle.

When I was a kid, it seemed like everyone I went to school with had a father.

But there were 2 Brothers in my primary school that I knew who did not have a father. The story was that the father had died. I don't know if it was true or not, but I remember it. I remember the other parents speaking about it in whispers as if it was some sort of shame or worse contagious . The older brother had failed a year and was in my class in grade 4 and up. He was a bit of a tough kid, pop bottle glasses, stuck out a bit, but boy could he handle himself in a fight. I remember other kids used to mock him about not having a father and it hurt him a lot and he would lash out at them. One time the teacher corralled him after a fight and since he was a trouble maker of sorts she just focused in on him. But I remember he just blurted out that the other kids were making fun of him about him not having a father. The teacher just put her hands on her ears and said, "I don't want to hear it" , but she let him off the hook. (And those were the days of "the strap" and that was no joke.)

But here's the thing about that kid that I will never forget.....

When I was 9 I was seriously injured in a incident the details of which don't matter. I was off school for 6 weeks and when I finally came back, my injury was very noticeable and made me a target for the bullies and I was weak. This kid, who was never my friend before then (but who never was a bully either) became my protector. A body guard of sorts. He stuck to me and he protected me from the bullies. (And there were more than one.). When the kids started to taunt me about my appearance, he would jump right in in my defence. Every time. And no one would cross this kid. He was a saint without a dad.

We went to different schools after grade 6 and I lost track of him and I have no idea what happened to him.

But he was a saint and I'm thinking of him today on father's day with tears in my eyes. I hope you're well my friend.

True story.

What a wonderful bittersweet story. Bless you and your childhood saint, wherever he is.

Indiana · Jun 17, 2018

Fuck it

basketcase · Jun 17, 2018

Things like the OP may happen but several buddies of mine had special events at their kids school this week. Fathers day parties, father and son baseball, etc.

richaceg · Jun 18, 2018

I got a mug, a chocolate and a picture.

Charlemagne · Jun 18, 2018

Smallcock said:
Where is her school located? A friend of mine had to pull his kid out of a school last year because he was getting into fights and getting threatened. When he sat down with the teacher, she explained that a lot of the boys causing the trouble don't have fathers at home.

Are more of these boys of descent from a certain island in The West Indies that I've been called racist for pointing out?

Smallcock · Jun 18, 2018

Charlemagne said:
Are more of these boys of descent from a certain island in The West Indies that I've been called racist for pointing out?

I don't know. Didn't get into that level of detail.

jazzbox · Jun 19, 2018

Something very similar happened to me in junior high. Kid I knew was severely abused by his dad. His dad was forced to leave the house. The fact the kid was then fatherless became a scandal and folks bullied the kid but he turned out to be a brutal fighter (probably learned the violence from dear old dad). My mom was tutoring at the school at at the time and saw the guy was hurting and took him under her wing. I was a small guy at the time and started to get bullied and man that kid became my fatherless guardian angel. He brutalized anyone that touched me. He disappeared in high school (some said he was in a reform school - kid's prison we called it). Then one day I was walking to school and he shows up heading toward the school. I said hi an suddenly, he collapsed in the field with a seizure (epilepsy I think) and all the other kids bolted. I hung around to make sure he was ok - just the two of us - and when he eventually revived he earnestly and tearfully thanked me for staying by him... then he asked me to say hi to my mom. I have never forgotten that moment and often think that guy never saw much love or care in his life. Sadly life only got worse for him and I suspect he is no longer alive.

james t kirk said:
Kids without fathers. I didn't think of that angle.

When I was a kid, it seemed like everyone I went to school with had a father.

But there were 2 Brothers in my primary school that I knew who did not have a father. The story was that the father had died. I don't know if it was true or not, but I remember it. I remember the other parents speaking about it in whispers as if it was some sort of shame or worse contagious . The older brother had failed a year and was in my class in grade 4 and up. He was a bit of a tough kid, pop bottle glasses, stuck out a bit, but boy could he handle himself in a fight. I remember other kids used to mock him about not having a father and it hurt him a lot and he would lash out at them. One time the teacher corralled him after a fight and since he was a trouble maker of sorts she just focused in on him. But I remember he just blurted out that the other kids were making fun of him about him not having a father. The teacher just put her hands on her ears and said, "I don't want to hear it" , but she let him off the hook. (And those were the days of "the strap" and that was no joke.)

But here's the thing about that kid that I will never forget.....

When I was 9 I was seriously injured in a incident the details of which don't matter. I was off school for 6 weeks and when I finally came back, my injury was very noticeable and made me a target for the bullies and I was weak. This kid, who was never my friend before then (but who never was a bully either) became my protector. A body guard of sorts. He stuck to me and he protected me from the bullies. (And there were more than one.). When the kids started to taunt me about my appearance, he would jump right in in my defence. Every time. And no one would cross this kid. He was a saint without a dad.

We went to different schools after grade 6 and I lost track of him and I have no idea what happened to him.

But he was a saint and I'm thinking of him today on father's day with tears in my eyes. I hope you're well my friend.

True story.

sweetiepieexo · Jun 19, 2018

they must have just started doing it because I know when I was in school we did arts and crafts for both mothers and fathers day ..that was over ten years ago but .... Regardless if they had a father/ mother or not ... I thought it was always the thought that counts???

I understand some kids don't have a mom and some don't have a dad but to not celebrate it all but celebrate the other is just wrong ! ... My dad passed when I was young and I still loved doing arts and crafts for him... I guess the school system is making some drastic changes.
I also went to a catholic school so maybe they are just changing what they do for certain holidays/ occasions and just putting more time to actual education ???

I agree with what people said about calling the school and finding out - just say your curious.. That's all.

|2 /-\ | /|/ said:
It was nice to get a great surprise from my little one and could see she put lots of effort into it , but I could tell they didn’t do anything in her school for father day. For Mother’s Day they always do nice crafts and dedicate time and effort during school time. I asked my little one about it and she said that the teacher explained how some kids don’t have fathers and they don’t want to make them feel bad.

Was it always like this or did they just start doing this? Or is it only limited to certain schools? I don’t know how I feel about this, it definitely feels off and seems like another fucked up thing schools are doing to stay politically correct based on few narrow minded individuals who make this into a big deal.

Anyways happy Father’s Day to all the paps out there.

frankcastle · Jun 19, 2018

Lets be clear here..... was it just one teacher, the whole school or the board? My guess is that it is a teacher by teacher decision.
I think it is easy to forget that not all kids have the same home life. As a kid having your differences highlighted is not necessarily a good thing. It can be if you have a talent. But it can also hurt when you are made to feel different.... eg not having a dad.

Alternate project probably doesnt soften the sting when you are surrounded by kids making fathers day art.

When i was a kid my mom could not make it to the mothers day celebration.

Do you know the panic i felt as the other kids served their mom breakfast. Luckily my buddy invited me to help serve his mom.

That was an innocent mix up but it still felt shitty at the time.

managee · Jun 19, 2018

frankcastle said:
Lets be clear here..... was it just one teacher, the whole school or the board? My guess is that it is a teacher by teacher decision.
I think it is easy to forget that not all kids have the same home life. As a kid having your differences highlighted is not necessarily a good thing. It can be if you have a talent. But it can also hurt when you are made to feel different.... eg not having a dad.

Alternate project probably doesnt soften the sting when you are surrounded by kids making fathers day art.

When i was a kid my mom could not make it to the mothers day celebration.

Do you know the panic i felt as the other kids served their mom breakfast. Luckily my buddy invited me to help serve his mom.

That was an innocent mix up but it still felt shitty at the time.

This thread is strong evidence of public interest in this type of story; when (so-called) PC-culture clashes with equality or fairness and creates hypocrisy... TERB thrives on it.

I strongly believe if this happened exactly as-described, or happened en masse (school, board or province-wide) that the Toronto Sun or some other newspaper would be blowing this up. This kind of story is like smack for Sun readers.

So-far, we have heard a child’s explanation for why dad didn’t get a Father’s Day craft second-hand. I have no reason to disbelieve the OP or his son/daughter(s), but it’s a pretty provocative thread title all-things considering.

I can’t imagine I would have ever brought arts and crafts home from school once I was tall enough to use a garbage can.

onthebottom · Jun 19, 2018

Had a great Father’s Day weekend, took the family to an FC Cincinnati game (have season tickets, they won 4:0) and a bbq on Sunday, kids made their presents and cards.

The guy who knocked up my ex was starting to look like he was going to bail on the entire situation. Not my problem but I called him, invited him out for a beer and told him being a father was likely the only really meaningful thing he was ever going to do, that prison is full of kids who’s dad bailed and that he should man the fuck up. Turned into a good conversation.

He’s done a great job, I may have had no impact, he may have done the right thing in any case but, but I couldn’t live with myself had I not said something.

He was smart enough to get away from my ex, and at a fraction of what I paid to get rid of that crazy bitch.

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