The Knesset officially declares that Israeli democracy is for Jews only
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Try being a practicing Christian, or Jew (who Mohamed himself called People of the Book) let alone a Hindu or Buddhist in Saudi Arabia or indeed most of the Middle East and that is not even to mention those considered apostates such as Bahá’í or Ismailis.
Another bullshit thread with a bullshit title.
And the fact that the Palestinians, Jordanians, and several other countries consider themselves a Jew free Islamic state doesn't bother the OP.
And the fact that the Palestinians, Jordanians, and several other countries consider themselves a Jew free Islamic state doesn't bother the OP.
It's duly noted that none of the responders dared disagree with your conclusion.
"As the names hints, the bill would have declared that Israel belongs not to its Jews but to all its residents. The Knesset Presidency decided the bill was too dangerous to come to a vote."
There's nothing contentious about this to anyone who embraces Canadian values.
^ Of course save that you are applying a different set of values to Israel than you are to the rest of the Middle East.
It’s a sloppy title referencing a biased article.
That said, Isreal will need to pick on, Jewish or a Republic.
The fact that it’s neightbors are basket cases doesn’t really change it’s dilema.
That said, Isreal will need to pick on, Jewish or a Republic.
The fact that it’s neightbors are basket cases doesn’t really change it’s dilema.
There's no evidence for your claims.
You have the nerve to call me racist when you're a staunch supporter of Zionism and Apartheid. What a joke.
So you think Canadian values shouldn't apply to the rest of the Middle East?
p.s. Palestinians don't want equal rights and refugees/descendants don't want to become Israeli.
Other than the thread where you say Jamaicans are to blame for Toronto violence?
And yes, your thread title is bullshit and there is plenty of evidence that Arab states officially describe themselves as Muslim states and most of them have rules excluding non-Muslims from power positions.
For example, the Palestinian constitution states:
4) Islam is the official religion in Palestine. Respect and sanctity of all other heavenly religions shall be maintained.
The principles of Islamic Shari’a shall be the main source of legislation.
Arabic shall be the official language.
They also have laws saying Jews can not buy land and it is a serious crime to sell land to one (though they are getting better, until recently it meant the death penalty).
This claim that Palestinians don't want equal rights has to be the most ridiculous thing you've said in a long time.
Please point to a poll that shows that Palestinians love living in apartheid rule or admit this is just more of your trolling.
That makes it sound like the US, which states its Christian and respects all other religions.
And that's different from Israel, which gives apartheid preferences to those of one religion.
For instance, Israel just tried to destroy a village for the 129th time.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=780224
HRW is calling for sanctions on Israel, remember, not on Palestinians.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/13/israel-apparent-war-crimes-gaza
what does that have to do with Israel? Israel has significant minority of Arabs that have come under its domain by force of arms.
Canada just banned the Chinese from buying Aecon, because they are the Chinese... so whats your point? Clearly Israelis are much richer and they don't want to lose any further territory. Do you seriously think Israel would allow Arabs to start buying up huge chunks of Israel backed by Saudi and Iranian money? On top of that Israel has on its books legislation authorizing the confiscation of Arab owned land....so what again is your point? (you tend to always ignore and refuse to acknowledge that Israel has confiscated land along ethnic lands from private land owners and not compensated them.
You don't like it but Palestinians hate the idea you want to impose on them. Palestinian polling has consistently shown Palestinians reject a One State peace and that hasn't changed in more than a decade.
The most recent has 68.6% opposed to the idea:
Q38) Given the growing belief that the two-state solution is no longer viable, the idea of one state in which Palestinians and Jews will be citizens of the same state and enjoy equal rights is gaining some popularity. Do you support or oppose such a one-state solution?
1) certainly support 3.9%
2) support 23.7%
3) oppose 46.2%
4) certainly oppose 22.4%
http://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/poll 67 full text_March2018_ English.pdf
More in depth, even in a two-state peace, 63% oppose allowing Israeli Jews in the Palestinian state, 48% want a return to armed intifadah,
And the question from that poll that you never want to discuss or condemn,:
Q57) Concerning armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel, I….
1) Certainly agree 13.9%
2) agree 33.4%
3) disagree 39.8%
4) Certainly disagree 7.5%
Although I do not particularly notice antisemitism among relatives and friends in Canada, I very definitely notice antisemitism here on TERB.
Lets just start by acknowledging the framing of the question and the underlying statement that says the two state solution is no longer viable.
Do you agree with that statement?
Then we can also note that the most support route of working against the occupation and apartheid rule is not violence, but calls for international action.
Given they're living under apartheid rule and have been living under military occupation for half a century, this is pretty heartening.
Of course the article by Mondoweiss which is an anti-Zionist blog is completely misleading as is the headline. The Bill proposes sought among other things to change the flag, the official language from Hebrew to Hebrew and Arabic, change the national anthem and various other state symbols. Countries have a right to determine what their national language is, what there national anthem is and what, if any, symbols of the country there may be. The fact that Arabic is not an official language or that there is no Arabic anthem etc. does not mean that arab citizens are less equal than Jewish citizens. I am not less a Canadian citizen because the flag, language, national anthem etc. do not recognize my Polish heritage.
That's not a fair assessment, you're claiming bias when the article is correct.
The Knesset shot down legislation that called for all citizens to be treated equally regardless of race, as their legal council noted:
That is what they thought dangerous to Israel.
Unless you are trying to claim that the legal council of for the Knesset is biased....
