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Israeli lawmaker proclaims supremacy of ‘Jewish race’

Likud's MK Miki Zohar says Jews are the smartest in the world, so know Netanyahu isn't corrupt

A lawmaker from the ruling Likud party said Wednesday that the “Jewish race” is the smartest in the world and possessing of the “highest human capital,” which is why, he said, the Israeli public did not buy into the allegations of wrongdoing by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

MK Miki Zohar made the comments during a radio debate with veteran political journalist Dan Margalit about the corruption investigations in which Netanyahu is either a suspect or has given testimony.

His assertions led to a Twitter spat with Joint (Arab) List party MK Ahmad Tibi, who noted Nazi Germany’s treatment of Jews as a race during the Holocaust.

Citing recent opinion polls that show Netanyahu enjoying strong support despite being a suspect in three graft investigations, Zohar argued that the media focus on the probes has not convinced the Israeli public that the prime minister is unsuited to lead the country.

" I can tell you something very basic,” Zohar said during the Radio 103FM debate. “You can’t fool the Jews, no matter what is the media writes. The public in Israel is a public that belongs to the Jewish race, and the entire Jewish race is the highest human capital, the smartest, the most comprehending. The public knows what the prime minister is doing for the country and how excellent he is at his job.”

Tibi, in response, tweeted a picture of Zohar with the message: “An elected official in ‘the Jewish state’ presents: race theory.”

Tibi, whose party and its members have often raised ire among their Jewish colleagues with their open support for the Palestinian cause, followed that tweet up with a photo of himself reading Amos Elon’s book “The Pity of It All,” which examines how the Holocaust brought an end to German-Jewish culture.

Zohar tweeted back: “And on the back cover there is a photo of Albert Einstein, another Jew who brought great news to the world.”

"What’s the connection between you and Einstein?” Tibi rejoined. “It isn’t even a relative relationship.”

In a follow-up interview with Hadashot TV news, Zohar at first denied that he had spoken about the supremacy of the “Jewish race,” but, presented with a recording of his earlier comments, doubled down and reiterated: “The Jewish people and the Jewish race are of the highest human capital that exists."

"What can you do? We were blessed by God… and I will continue to say that at every opportunity,” he said. “I don’t have to be ashamed about the Jewish people being the Chosen People; the smartest, most special people in the world.”

Zohar cited the many innovations and discoveries made by Jews, and said that Israel had achieved more in its 70-year span than some peoples had in thousands of years.

"You can understand why we usually win a lot of Nobel Prizes,” he said.

Times of Israel staff contributed to this report."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmaker-lauds-supremacy-of-jewish-race/
 

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A little hard to follow, but it seems his 'defence' of Netanyahu is that as the smartest leader, chosen by the smartest people, he's too smart to caught in a dumb scandal like that. Trouble is, he phrased it in the stupidest of offensive ways. As the saying goes: 'With friends like that …,

D'ya s'pose he has a handle here?
 

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In my opinion he's right about the supremacy, wrong about the race.

It's not about a race, it's about a culture. Culture is why Jews win, culture is why Asians excel, culture is why Blacks struggle, and culture is why Hispanics are accelerating.

It's not about race.

I hang and work with lots of Jewish people. The Jewish culture is a masters class in life success. The importance of the immediate and extended family group, financial skill & stability, believing in something, taking the long view. All things that put you and your people ahead.

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A little hard to follow, but it seems his 'defence' of Netanyahu is that as the smartest leader, chosen by the smartest people, he's too smart to caught in a dumb scandal like that. Trouble is, he phrased it in the stupidest of offensive ways. As the saying goes: 'With friends like that …,

D'ya s'pose he has a handle here?
So do you consider him to be a Jewish supremacist or do you think he just innocently used the wrong words?
 

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So one Israeli politician said something stupid, Louis Farrakhan also says stupid things -- should we attribute his beliefs to large groups as well?
 

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You mean that they aren't really the 'chosen people'?
Do you actually wish to engage in a theological discussion as to what "a chosen people" means and the relationship of mainstream Christianity to it?

Or do I misunderstand you and you are saying that the Nation of Islam is not really Islam.
 

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Do you actually wish to engage in a theological discussion as to what "a chosen people" means and the relationship of mainstream Christianity to it?

Or do I misunderstand you and you are saying that the Nation of Islam is not really Islam.
Sure, why don't you explain what it means exactly.

We all know that all religions try to claim that they are only true religion, as who would buy a ticket for redemption if they didn't think they had the only access codes.
But I'm sure it'll be very informative if you explain how being the 'chosen people' is totally different then those issues of superiority.

(and by the way, I do think all religions have this issue)
 

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Sure, why don't you explain what it means exactly.

We all know that all religions try to claim that they are only true religion, as who would buy a ticket for redemption if they didn't think they had the only access codes.
But I'm sure it'll be very informative if you explain how being the 'chosen people' is totally different then those issues of superiority.

(and by the way, I do think all religions have this issue)
The idiot can say whatever he likes. Israel unlike its Arab neighbors has freedom of expression. As long as his views do no limit the rights of others so what. Have you ever listed to Sessions or Pence.
 

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It is complex but perhaps the best plain language explanation from a Jewish perspective I’ve read is the following:


"Few beliefs have been subject to as much misunderstanding as the 'Chosen People' doctrine. The Torah and the Prophets clearly stated that this does not imply any innate Jewish superiority. In the words of Amos (3:2) 'You alone have I singled out of all the families of the earth—that is why I will call you to account for your iniquities.' The Torah states that Jews are to be "a kingdom of priests and a holy nation" with obligations and duties which flow from this status. Far from being a license for special privilege, it entails additional responsibilities not only toward God but to other human beings.


The doctrine of the election and the covenant of Israel offers a purpose for Jewish existence which transcends its own self interests. It suggests that because of the special history and unique heritage of the Jewish People, Jews are in a position to demonstrate that a people that takes seriously the idea of being covenanted with God can not only thrive in the face of oppression, but can be a source of blessing to its children and its neighbors. It obligates Jews to build a just and compassionate society throughout the world “


Or in the words of Immanuel Jakobovits: "The Jews were chosen by God to be 'peculiar unto Me' as the pioneers of religion and morality; that was and is their national purpose."
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For the majority of its existence Christians have believed in Supersessionism that God continues to have a covenant with his people (although it is now through Christ) and that the moral law continues to stand.

Most Christians continue to believe in something of the sort, although in the wake of the Holocaust a number of denominations no longer give much official credence to it.

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Now please explain to us how the secular comments of one member of the Knesset impacts on this theological concept?
 

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The idiot can say whatever he likes. Israel unlike its Arab neighbors has freedom of expression. As long as his views do no limit the rights of others so what. Have you ever listed to Sessions or Pence.
If he was an isolated case I'd agree. Sadly that isn't the reality and there are lots like him in the Knesset.
 

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If he was an isolated case I'd agree. Sadly that isn't the reality and there are lots like him in the Knesset.
No Israeli law has been changed. Should I start quoting all the ant-Semitic Arabs and MK's. I look at policy not individual idiots on either side. i do not paint an entire country by the words of one or a few idiots or zealots.
 

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No Israeli law has been changed. Should I start quoting all the ant-Semitic Arabs and MK's. I look at policy not individual idiots on either side. i do not paint an entire country by the words of one or a few idiots or zealots.
Exactly, the law would have changed things there by putting it in law that all were equal regardless of race.
But the Knesset felt that this would be too damaging to Israel and they couldn't make all equal, regardless of race, without destroying the 'fabric' of Israel.

So yes, Israel is still apartheid and refused to put in place a law that would have made apartheid illegal.
 

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Exactly, the law would have changed things there by putting it in law that all were equal regardless of race.
But the Knesset felt that this would be too damaging to Israel and they couldn't make all equal, regardless of race, without destroying the 'fabric' of Israel.

So yes, Israel is still apartheid and refused to put in place a law that would have made apartheid illegal.
No the law would have changed the flag, language, anthem etc. It would not have changed any laws at all.
 

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No the law would have changed the flag, language, anthem etc. It would not have changed any laws at all.
Repeating the same false claim over and over again isn't debating, its trumpery.

Knesset disqualifies bill seeking equal status for Jews and Arabs
Legislation submitted by Arab members of parliament called for Israel to treat its Arab and Jewish citizens equally.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...-equal-status-jews-arabs-180605103127742.html

If it wouldn't have changed anything why would they be so afraid of it?
 

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Repeating the same false claim over and over again isn't debating, its trumpery.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...-equal-status-jews-arabs-180605103127742.html

If it wouldn't have changed anything why would they be so afraid of it?
LOL. And what would you call repeating headlines from Aljazeera. Have you read the bill? I have. Simply proclaiming that you want equal status by demanding changes to language, etc to make Arabic an official language and same with the flag and the anthem etc. is simply another way for the Palestinians to attempt to achieve indirectly what they have been unable to achieve directly.

Attempting to use facts with you in this area is futile. i am done.

Myopia can be cured. You should seek help.
 

Frankfooter

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LOL. And what would you call repeating headlines from Aljazeera. Have you read the bill? I have. Simply proclaiming that you want equal status by demanding changes to language, etc to make Arabic an official language and same with the flag and the anthem etc. is simply another way for the Palestinians to attempt to achieve indirectly what they have been unable to achieve directly.

Attempting to use facts with you in this area is futile. i am done.

Myopia can be cured. You should seek help.
You aren't using facts, you are using your personal opinion.
If you really think the bill doesn't say what all the media reported on it then you could easily quote the bill that you say you've read and show it.
But you didn't, instead you're skulking off.
 

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Repeating the same false claim over and over again isn't debating, its trumpery....
So why do you do it? The actual bill is available to be read but you only rely on anti-Israel blogs and al-Jazeera. Worth noting is it is Arab politicians and full members of Parliament who proposed that bill - what's that about equal rights?


And it's obvious why you are so upset about Israel but have no problems with countries like Iran that requires all higher office holders to be observant Shi'a (hint - it has nothing to do with human rights).
 
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