Agencies or Indies? Why do you choose one or the other for MAs?

rhd said:

It seems like there are more Indy MAs lately and most of those seem to have got their start at an agency. I see the advantages of going independent from the point of view of the provider, but why do you choose to see an Indy MA over going to an agency? Or why do you prefer to visit an agency rather than seek out an independent?

Which offers better value?

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Because the agencies are much more reputable and trust worthy like duh! And have you seen some of the girls working at the agencies here? They are way hotter imo. Cheaper too. Avoid filthy Brass club, their reputation is going downhill due to a controversy.

Brass is still good, I go there more recently since my faves at CMJ have been away.

With quite a few ladies coming out with the issues at Brass, there was definitely problems that weren't address back then.

I'm hopeful they'll review things internally and change some things.

Light drinking is ok, just don't go overboard. It could lead to troubles.

asuran said:

Brass is still good, I go there more recently since my faves at CMJ have been away.

With quite a few ladies coming out with the issues at Brass, there was definitely problems that weren't address back then.

I'm hopeful they'll review things internally and change some things.

Light drinking is ok, just don't go overboard. It could lead to troubles.

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Stop supporting crooks slurp!

rhd said:

Hotter is obviously a matter of opinion and preferance. Cheaper isn't. Is it generally true that the (total) bill at an agency is less than what an Indy charges?

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Yup, based on my experience. But GFE is widely restricted. So you may not be able to fuck them as you hope to. Much safer though imo.

AshleyMaddison said:

Stop supporting crooks slurp!

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What do you mean crooks?

Were you the one that was violent and got banned from the club? And now you are angry?

asuran said:

What do you mean crooks?

Were you the one that was violent and got banned from the club? And now you are angry?

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Nope, that was Diablo69. The management are crooks, ripping off girls. Haven't you heard? I'd stick to CMJ and ALO.

AshleyMaddison said:

Stop supporting crooks slurp!

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Please stop uttering my name in vain.... :fish:

I always lean towards indy MA or escort simply because if the SP is top notch I feel she deserves the money, not an agency. But if someone I really wants to see does not want to be bothered managing their own affairs and lets an agency do it, I will see them at an agency. But preference is indy so the SP is better rewarded.

slurp said:

Please stop uttering my name in vain.... :fish:

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Okay you're the bawss :hail:

I like the idea of the Indy MA over the agency for the reason I feel the MA should be getting all the money for the work and going to see an Indy MA at her place makes me feel like I am going to see a GF ... at a spa I don’t get the warm and fuzzy feeling when I am about to visit...the variety of ladies are definitely better at an Agency/spa but the pricing and flexible of an Indy is far superior...most indies are 150$ hour...and can be less if you see them on a regular. So for me atmosphere, flexibility and fairness is why I prefer Indy.

From time to time if a beautiful woman catches my eye at an agency/club I will pay her a visit. But I'm usually inclined to book time with an indy. Two reasons for this for me personally: #1 I like to support that one individual 100%, and #2 I prefer the discretion of a private incall. Some of the clubs are far too conspicuous for my liking.

whiteman said:

Indies are usually cheaper than an agency, as you bypass having to pay door fees and such. In some cases, a former spa girl goes independent and raises her prices, but that's because she's built up a good reputation from the spa days, plus she will now be able to offer more services than she could at the spa.

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I think there is different scenarios when it comes to indy rates... no real rule...
In my case i charge the same as i used to charge as when i was at the spa.. althou i dont pay a door fee.. i do have overhead... rent.. utilities..., parking and all sort of other little things (cleaning supplies, oils, candles.. etc... )... just like any other business owner... i dont work out of my home and my incall is DT ottawa..

Some girls work out of their home so they can reduce their rates..

and as to why they charge more.. maybe be because they have a high over head or offer more services than they would at a spa...

And for everyone also there is an initial investment.. in furniture and decor to adapt the place and make it nice, cozy.. comfortable... so you guys enjoy your visit!

Privacy.

I am coming to Ottawa on Monday and made an appt at the Brass, what happened? Should I stay away?

Deweyduster said:

I am coming to Ottawa on Monday and made an appt at the Brass, what happened? Should I stay away?

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Nope, no problem.
Went today nothing out of the ordinary.
Tho I go mostly day time, if that makes any difference.

whiteman said:

I think for the most part, the overhead of a single privateer is better consolidated into their rates than it is for a spa girl. The spa has their overhead, and the girl has her overhead, they can't readjust between them to come to a more optimum solution. I've heard several former spa girls tell me that they would've liked if their spa owners would have been able to reduce their door fees while at the same time the girls had reduced theirs, so they could do some of those "weekly specials" type of thing. And I'm sure the spa owners would've appreciated if their girls could do the same thing on their part. Nobody wants to give up their own little piece. So it's much easier for privateers to do these types of specials, or even just keep their prices permanently lower, because the two types of overheads are just one in their case.

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like i said is all different.. myself i am low volume.. s
i work a day time office job.. and then i have.my family to care for... so my time is not all there ...
also i know i provide pretty good service... so i dont take more than 2 appts a day... maybe 3 ... back at the spa i used to be booked up 7 to 10 cl a day... i dont want that anymore.. i dont have time or the energy for that.. and i dont want to give shitty service to people...

IsaMassage said:

I think there is different scenarios when it comes to indy rates... no real rule...
In my case i charge the same as i used to charge as when i was at the spa.. althou i dont pay a door fee.. i do have overhead... rent.. utilities..., parking and all sort of other little things (cleaning supplies, oils, candles.. etc... )... just like any other business owner... i dont work out of my home and my incall is DT ottawa..

Some girls work out of their home so they can reduce their rates..

and as to why they charge more.. maybe be because they have a high over head or offer more services than they would at a spa...

And for everyone also there is an initial investment.. in furniture and decor to adapt the place and make it nice, cozy.. comfortable... so you guys enjoy your visit!

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It is so true .. As an indy , I like to be able to work in a safe and upscale location. I like to host my client in a relaxing atmosphere where he can enjoy the privacy and the luxe of a great custom made massage table with memory foam mattress , access to a clean and big shower .. A location fournished with taste and to be able to provide towels, different brands of soap, fresh sheets , candles , free parking ect ect ... In order to provide that type of location , to pay my publicity , utilities & supplies , well I need to adjust my prices .. I always have monthly specials for solo and duo that are advertised on Terb , twitter and my website and I am trying to follow the market (taking in concideration my level of services/location.. Of course I can’t charge the same price than a girl that is in the ghetto in a dirty basement and that have no history as a provider (no judgment , just using it as a comparison) but I always try to reward my regulars with specials and to encourage the potential clients to visit me by offering little 30min packages at low prices so they can try and become regulars.
I think the price should be relative to the reputation, the quality of the location and services ..
Just my opinion ...

Also , being an indy is a lot of work outside of sessions ..We are answering text until late and out of schedule everyday . We have to be active in review board , to take care of our location ( laundry , cleaning , shopping for supplies ect.. We need to advertise , to be active on twitter , to built websites and to respond to emails and also to book our own clients. If you take in concideration the hours we put in our buisiness , the «**doorfee**» don’t cover half of the hours we are putting into our job not including the expenses.


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