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essguy_

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The invisible hand of China... With an idiot like Trump running the largest (for now) economy in the world - get used to it.
 

danmand

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Playing checkers while the other side is playing Chess

Nobel Prize in the Universe of the dumb.
 

Anbarandy

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Trump almost pulled it off all by himself.

He was so close, heck even his tweets proclaimed so.

What in the real word would have taken years to iron out all the details of a very complex issue BEFORE a summit could even begin to be considered, Trump almost managed to FAKE NEWS his way to a Nobel Piss prize.

Meanwhile, the Trump hallucinated witch hunt is full on for the Deep State and their SPIES who infiltrated the Trump campaign. Bigger than WATERGATE.
 

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I have to admit, although there is some awkward phrasing, it's a pretty effective letter.

Stay tuned for NK's reply.
 

jcpro

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A mark of a good negotiator, be able, willing and ready to walk away.
 

mandrill

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Looks like Trump's bromance with Kim was wrecked when Kim was mean to him.

Well, only one person is smiling now.... Vlad knows that Trump will beg to come crawling back to him - wearing his special little pink dog collar and carrying his special tube of lube in his mouth.

When I was 19 years old and really, really stupid, I once wrote a letter like that to girl who had dumped me and laughed at me. She showed the letter to her girlfriends. And they showed the letter to THEIR girlfriends and to their girlfriends' boyfriends. And then EVERYBODY laughed at me.

What an asshole Trump is!!!! Now even Merkel will point at him and giggle.
 

Anbarandy

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A mark of a good negotiator, be able, willing and ready to walk away.
WTF was actually being negotiated but maybe a tea and crumpets covfefe meeting totally bereft of any semblance of planning, details and the labyrinth of all those mundane little things that actually make up an agreement, none of which existed.
 

toguy5252

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A mark of a good negotiator, be able, willing and ready to walk away.
The mark of a good negotiator is to be more prepared than the person on the other side of the table. By all accounts in this as in every other area the PGOTUS had done no preparation. This cancellation was a result of Trumps fit of pique at Kim calling out Pence after the idiotic provocations by he and Bolton.
 

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A mark of a good negotiator, be able, willing and ready to walk away.
Stay in control. He has all the cards, can easily go back to the blockade trajectory
 

danmand

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Stay in control. He has all the cards, can easily go back to the blockade trajectory
China has at least half the cards. And that may include a couple of aces.

And remember, Xi will be there long after Trump is gone. In negotiations, time is always a critical factor.
 

jcpro

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The mark of a good negotiator is to be more prepared than the person on the other side of the table. By all accounts in this as in every other area the PGOTUS had done no preparation. This cancellation was a result of Trumps fit of pique at Kim calling out Pence after the idiotic provocations by he and Bolton.
You pinkos wouldn't know what negotiation is if you sat in in.
 

danmand

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You pinkos wouldn't know what negotiation is if you sat in in.
You, on the other hand, have advised multiple Countries on how to conduct negotiations.
 

toguy5252

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You pinkos wouldn't know what negotiation is if you sat in in.
LMAO. I really do find it quite hilarious when people who have no idea who I am or what I do make judgements about my views on business and economics because I do not endorse the policies of someone who is a charlatan and a huckster. Particularly when the person making the judgement has demonstrated time and time again that he is part of the dumbest most gullible group in the world. Too funny.
 

jcpro

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You, on the other hand, have advised multiple Countries on how to conduct negotiations.
Maybe not, but I can tell the difference between my elbow and my ass. Besides, I learned how to negotiate at a tender age and from my grandmother, no less, who absolutely refused to pay retail- from house, cow to cup of coffee.
 

Butler1000

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Trump should never have brought Bolton in. His first mistake. Second one is not realizing how previous USA history by Bush in Iraq and Obama/Clinton in Libya would not be a major factor.

I had some hope but obviously that's not enough.

But nothing was lost, three hostages released, and no war started. And while the letter doesn't make the best use of the rules of grammar at least it wasn't a bad tweet.

I will wait to see how NK responds.......
 

jcpro

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LMAO. I really do find it quite hilarious when people who have no idea who I am or what I do make judgements about my views on business and economics because I do not endorse the policies of someone who is a charlatan and a huckster. Particularly when the person making the judgement has demonstrated time and time again that he is part of the dumbest most gullible group in the world. Too funny.
What I know about you is that you are unable to separate objective picture in front of your nose from your emotions. Easy sell.
 

danmand

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Maybe not, but I can tell the difference between my elbow and my ass.
That is what you claim. Which one is it your shit comes out of?

Besides, I learned how to negotiate at a tender age and from my grandmother, no less, who absolutely refused to pay retail- from house, cow to cup of coffee.
Being cheap is not the same as negotiating nuclear disarmament. LOL
 

Butler1000

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China has at least half the cards. And that may include a couple of aces.

And remember, Xi will be there long after Trump is gone. In negotiations, time is always a critical factor.
In this case Trump may well be his best option. Or do you think some more established candidate in the pocket of the military establishment would be better....

The larger issue Isn't Trump. It's what the next admin does after........
 

danmand

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In this case Trump may well be his best option. Or do you think some more established candidate in the pocket of the military establishment would be better....

The larger issue Isn't Trump. It's what the next admin does after........
Sooner or later there will be a rational regime in Washington (otherwise we will all die, and it does not matter), and Xi can wait.
 
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