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Liberals file complaint with Elections Ontario after Doug Ford improperly attended Scarborough fundraiser

PC spokesperson said Ford was 'misinformed' about 'the nature of the event'

CBC News · Posted: May 17, 2018 10:43 AM ET |

The Liberals have filed a formal complaint to Elections Ontario after Progressive Conservative Leader Doug Ford breached Ontario election law by attending a fundraiser in April.

The complaint covers several alleged violations of Ontario's Election Finances Act, including Ford's attendance at the event, selling tickets above the maximum allowed contribution and that the event and donors were not publicly disclosed.

"We trust Elections Ontario will investigate what appears to be an exceptionally clear violation of the Act," Ontario Liberal Party legal counsel Jack Siegel said in a news release Thursday.

PCs part ways with organizer

The PCs parted ways with campaign organizer Srini Suppiramaniam on Wednesday and promised to refund donations made during the April 29 event at Scarborough's Chandni Banquet Hall.

The fundraiser was held on the same evening as the #TorontoStrong vigil, where Ford also made an appearance.

​"We have been made aware that the Leader was misinformed by the organizer about the nature of the event," said Ford campaign spokesperson Melissa Lantsman.

​"Any money raised at the event that was given to the campaign as a donation will be returned to the donors and we will not accept any money from these guests going forward," she said, adding that Ford "takes full responsibility for what happened."

The party will be filing an infraction with Elections Ontario, as well, according to Lantsman.

Ontario's Election Finances Act bars MPPs and candidates who have secured a nomination and party leaders from attending fundraisers during campaigns.

According to a report in the Toronto Star, attendees paid $250 a plate — and $2,000 a piece for a seat at the head table — for the opportunity to meet Ford.

During campaign stop at a Cambridge pizzeria, Ford told reporters that he goes to hundreds of events and that he was "very clearly misinformed" by Suppiramaniam about this one.

"The person who put on the event was immediately dismissed and walked out of the office and we have an internal investigation. I take Elections Ontario very seriously, the rules," he said.

Political opponents weigh-in

On Thursday morning, NDP Leader Andrea Horwath said it was "surprising" that Ford participated in the dinner.

"It's pretty shocking that anybody would flout the rules so blatantly as Mr. Ford did," she said.

"Look, this is a party that was pretty visceral on their attack on the Liberal cash-for-access of fundraisers, and rightfully so."

At her own campaign event in Ottawa, Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne called the revelation about Ford's participation in the event "disturbing" and said Ford will have to answer tough questions about how it happened at all.

"There's a law in this province about candidates attending fundraisers in this province. We all know about that law," Wynne said.

Candidate resigns after data theft probe

It's been a difficult 24 hours for the Tory leader. Earlier on Wednesday the PC candidate in Brampton East, Simmer Sandhu, abruptly quit after his one-time employer, 407 ETR, announced it was investigating an "inside theft of data" that affected 60,000 customers.

Sandhu worked nine years at the company that owns and operates the toll highway through the GTA. While the company did not specify who was being investigated, Sandhu released a statement calling any allegations against him "totally baseless."

The NDP has called for the province's chief electoral officer to formally investigate if the data breach was used for political gain by PC candidates and operators.

"We are profoundly troubled by these allegations. Ontarians expect more of political candidates and political parties," said Karla Webber-Gallagher, provincial secretary for the NDP, in a statement that includes 10 questions the NDP want answered by the probe.

"As there are fewer than 21 days left in the Ontario election and as advanced voting begins next week, time is of the essence."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-fundraiser-elections-ontario-finances-act-1.4666872
 

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Liberals file complaint with Elections Ontario after Doug Ford improperly attended Scarborough fundraiser

PC spokesperson said Ford was 'misinformed' about 'the nature of the event'

CBC News · Posted: May 17, 2018 10:43 AM ET |

The Liberals have filed a formal complaint to Elections Ontario after Progressive Conservative Leader Doug Ford breached Ontario election law by attending a fundraiser in April.

The complaint covers several alleged violations of Ontario's Election Finances Act, including Ford's attendance at the event, selling tickets above the maximum allowed contribution and that the event and donors were not publicly disclosed.

"We trust Elections Ontario will investigate what appears to be an exceptionally clear violation of the Act," Ontario Liberal Party legal counsel Jack Siegel said in a news release Thursday.

PCs part ways with organizer

The PCs parted ways with campaign organizer Srini Suppiramaniam on Wednesday and promised to refund donations made during the April 29 event at Scarborough's Chandni Banquet Hall.

The fundraiser was held on the same evening as the #TorontoStrong vigil, where Ford also made an appearance.

​"We have been made aware that the Leader was misinformed by the organizer about the nature of the event," said Ford campaign spokesperson Melissa Lantsman.

​"Any money raised at the event that was given to the campaign as a donation will be returned to the donors and we will not accept any money from these guests going forward," she said, adding that Ford "takes full responsibility for what happened."

The party will be filing an infraction with Elections Ontario, as well, according to Lantsman.

Ontario's Election Finances Act bars MPPs and candidates who have secured a nomination and party leaders from attending fundraisers during campaigns.

According to a report in the Toronto Star, attendees paid $250 a plate — and $2,000 a piece for a seat at the head table — for the opportunity to meet Ford.

During campaign stop at a Cambridge pizzeria, Ford told reporters that he goes to hundreds of events and that he was "very clearly misinformed" by Suppiramaniam about this one.

"The person who put on the event was immediately dismissed and walked out of the office and we have an internal investigation. I take Elections Ontario very seriously, the rules," he said.

Political opponents weigh-in

On Thursday morning, NDP Leader Andrea Horwath said it was "surprising" that Ford participated in the dinner.

"It's pretty shocking that anybody would flout the rules so blatantly as Mr. Ford did," she said.

"Look, this is a party that was pretty visceral on their attack on the Liberal cash-for-access of fundraisers, and rightfully so."

At her own campaign event in Ottawa, Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne called the revelation about Ford's participation in the event "disturbing" and said Ford will have to answer tough questions about how it happened at all.

"There's a law in this province about candidates attending fundraisers in this province. We all know about that law," Wynne said.

Candidate resigns after data theft probe

It's been a difficult 24 hours for the Tory leader. Earlier on Wednesday the PC candidate in Brampton East, Simmer Sandhu, abruptly quit after his one-time employer, 407 ETR, announced it was investigating an "inside theft of data" that affected 60,000 customers.

Sandhu worked nine years at the company that owns and operates the toll highway through the GTA. While the company did not specify who was being investigated, Sandhu released a statement calling any allegations against him "totally baseless."

The NDP has called for the province's chief electoral officer to formally investigate if the data breach was used for political gain by PC candidates and operators.

"We are profoundly troubled by these allegations. Ontarians expect more of political candidates and political parties," said Karla Webber-Gallagher, provincial secretary for the NDP, in a statement that includes 10 questions the NDP want answered by the probe.

"As there are fewer than 21 days left in the Ontario election and as advanced voting begins next week, time is of the essence."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-fundraiser-elections-ontario-finances-act-1.4666872
Doesn't really matter if it's true or not because he'll win anyway. No one really cares about the election rules...they care about the candidate they want to win whether rules are broken or not.
 

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Don't care. Still I will not vote Liberal and their NDP clones.
 

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We saw the pathetic PC nomination and how the whole thing was mishandled. So not surprising that all rules are being broken. Can you then trust them to handle the economy??
Definitely not this Dumb Ford guy!!
 

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We saw the pathetic PC nomination and how the whole thing was mishandled. So not surprising that all rules are being broken. Can you then trust them to handle the economy??
Definitely not this Dumb Ford guy!!
It all depends on what you need to trust someone.
15 years of boondoggles does not build trust, unless you're a masochist.
 

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It all depends on what you need to trust someone.
15 years of boondoggles does not build trust, unless you're a masochist.
Economy is doing great, lots of jobs and growth. Construction is booming. As for boondoggles, every govt has them. You are already seeing a lack of respect for process in the nomination and election process. How can you remotely conclude that a Ford govt will have any less boondoggles and abuses if they are already breaking the law and their whole nomination process is in shambles. Do you think they will be better when they take over a much more complicated and difficult role? OMG
 

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Economy is doing great, lots of jobs and growth. Construction is booming. As for boondoggles, every govt has them. You are already seeing a lack of respect for process in the nomination and election process. How can you remotely conclude that a Ford govt will have any less boondoggles and abuses if they are already breaking the law and their whole nomination process is in shambles. Do you think they will be better when they take over a much more complicated and difficult role? OMG
Notti...

You are just going to have to accept the fact they are gone. It isn't a question at this point of whether the libs will be beaten. It's by who and how horribly.

Arguing over whether another govt will be better or worse is moot. You could tell everyone they will be as bad the libs will still get trounced.

If you have any wagons hitched to the Lib train it's time to walk away.
 

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Notti...

You are just going to have to accept the fact they are gone. It isn't a question at this point of whether the libs will be beaten. It's by who and how horribly.

Arguing over whether another govt will be better or worse is moot. You could tell everyone they will be as bad the libs will still get trounced.

If you have any wagons hitched to the Lib train it's time to walk away.
Let me guess, that you will not be voting for the PC candidate in your riding because that would mean you support a PC government led by Doug Ford.

And as we all well know by now you would support a Bernie Sanders-like candidate and/or party, but since none are available up here your alleged 'outsider' allegiance defaults to the most unethical, corrupt, bald faced lying blowhard available.
 

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Let me guess, that you will not be voting for the PC candidate in your riding because that would mean you support a PC government led by Doug Ford.

And as we all well know by now you would support a Bernie Sanders-like candidate and/or party, but since none are available up here your alleged 'outsider' allegiance defaults to the most unethical, corrupt, bald faced lying blowhard available.
At this point in either going to strategic vote to put Wynne out or go in and officially decline my ballot in protest.

None of them have my confidence.

What to declare who you will vote for? Or not and whine no matter who gets in.
 

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It all depends on what you need to trust someone.
15 years of boondoggles does not build trust, unless you're a masochist.
We are clearly talking about "violations" of the campaign rules and regulations. If Dumb Ford cannot understand these basics then he is incapable of handling the economy.
Maybe those who expect Dumb Ford to take charge are the real masochists.
 

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At this point in either going to strategic vote to put Wynne out or go in and officially decline my ballot in protest.

None of them have my confidence.

What to declare who you will vote for? Or not and whine no matter who gets in.

We know that you fervently supported Harper in the Federal Elections. When he was booted out, the right wingers constantly moaned about it.
It is okay for them to do so, but when there are severe deficiencies in the manner in which the expected incumbent understands the basic rules and regulations, then why should it not be revealed or a cause for concern?
 

nottyboi

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Notti...

You are just going to have to accept the fact they are gone. It isn't a question at this point of whether the libs will be beaten. It's by who and how horribly.

Arguing over whether another govt will be better or worse is moot. You could tell everyone they will be as bad the libs will still get trounced.

If you have any wagons hitched to the Lib train it's time to walk away.
Thats what everyone said the last 2 elections. I agree it does not look great, but we shall see. In the meantime I will vote to keep Doug Ford out and hope if he wins there will be minority govt and we can defeat him soon and replace him with probably Charles Sousa.
 

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Economy is doing great, lots of jobs and growth. Construction is booming. As for boondoggles, every govt has them. You are already seeing a lack of respect for process in the nomination and election process. How can you remotely conclude that a Ford govt will have any less boondoggles and abuses if they are already breaking the law and their whole nomination process is in shambles. Do you think they will be better when they take over a much more complicated and difficult role? OMG
Economy is not doing great. We are running it on borrowed money and selling off assets for a song.
Jobs? You mean government jobs to pad the stats?
Construction is booming building homes no one can afford and condos owned by foreign investors.
Yes every gov't has boondoggles. The Liberals have proven that ten-fold. Time for giving someone else a chance to perhaps have less of them.
"Better" is a relative term. Better than the Liberals? Then the answer is yes.
 

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We are clearly talking about "violations" of the campaign rules and regulations. If Dumb Ford cannot understand these basics then he is incapable of handling the economy.
Maybe those who expect Dumb Ford to take charge are the real masochists.
Last time I checked the Liberals were on trial and convictions were laid.
 

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So this time it is the Conservatives turn then. The Conservatives are not saints okay!!
You are sounding desperate. Lots if exclamation points whenever the libs come up.

They are going to lose. You just need to accept this.
 

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You are sounding desperate. Lots if exclamation points whenever the libs come up.

They are going to lose. You just need to accept this.
Clearly you do not understand what this thread is about. I know that the Liberals are not going to win the elections. They may even finish in the third spot. But they have been in office for over a decade.
But you are telling me that it is okay for Ford to violate the Campaign Rules. Do you think that he is above the law? Hopefully, the NDP can stop this Dumb Ford guy from getting elected!!
 

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Clearly you do not understand what this thread is about. I know that the Liberals are not going to win the elections. They may even finish in the third spot. But they have been in office for over a decade.
But you are telling me that it is okay for Ford to violate the Campaign Rules. Do you think that he is above the law? Hopefully, the NDP can stop this Dumb Ford guy from getting elected!!
I think it's a tiny error that was corrected.

And that none of the three are qualified. But that it's your myopic fixation on tiny stupid faux, along with a small section of the population I find funny.

It's straw grasping.
 

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I think it's a tiny error that was corrected.

And that none of the three are qualified. But that it's your myopic fixation on tiny stupid faux, along with a small section of the population I find funny.

It's straw grasping.
If it was indeed a tiny matter, there wouldn't be a Provincial law against it; common sense would be sufficient. Common sense would certainly suggest reading up on the relevant campaign laws before planning events, but Dougie and Team Ford are still noobs. The concept of following rules has never sat easy with those boys, and Dougie famously doesn't do libraries.

If — and that's a big 'IF', with no audits until after the vote — the money's all been given back as they claim (and not promptly re-donated), then the 'error' has indeed been corrected even though the offence was committed. But shouldn't similarly generous logic also apply when judging Wynne and her government?
 

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If it was indeed a tiny matter, there wouldn't be a Provincial law against it; common sense would be sufficient. Common sense would certainly suggest reading up on the relevant campaign laws before planning events, but Dougie and Team Ford are still noobs. The concept of following rules has never sat easy with those boys, and Dougie famously doesn't do libraries.

If — and that's a big 'IF', with no audits until after the vote — the money's all been given back as they claim (and not promptly re-donated), then the 'error' has indeed been corrected even though the offence was committed. But shouldn't similarly generous logic also apply when judging Wynne and her government?
Wynne is being judged not on the basis of one event where she showed up after being misled.

But on malfeasance including a cover up where someone is going to jail. And a whole lot more.

To equate the two is ridiculous.

Wynne is toast. It's just a matter of who gets in with how many seats.

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