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Trump Tower transcripts detail quest for dirt on Hillary Clinton

Butler1000

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One year, with 20 or so charged and how many pleading guilty?
This is still the fastest grand jury we've seen.
Mueller is getting closer to talking to Stone, by the way.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...nas-stone-aide-in-russia-investigation-report
2 years. The FBI started looking into this in June 2016. That's when Steele started shopping about the dossier to the press. And the DNC hack was even before then.

And still nothing related to "collusion".

Just like Israel going to the Hague. You just don't know what you are talking about. Make false claims of immanent things happening. Put up links that don't prove a thing. Post opinion pieces as fact.

2 years. And nothing.
 

Frankfooter

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2 years. The FBI started looking into this in June 2016. That's when Steele started shopping about the dossier to the press. And the DNC hack was even before then.

And still nothing related to "collusion".

Just like Israel going to the Hague. You just don't know what you are talking about. Make false claims of immanent things happening. Put up links that don't prove a thing. Post opinion pieces as fact.

2 years. And nothing.
1 year of the Mueller investigation.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/17/poli...ssia-investigation-special-counsel/index.html

Israel and the ICC.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine

Justice is slow, but it will get there.
 

Butler1000

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1 year of the Mueller investigation.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/17/poli...ssia-investigation-special-counsel/index.html

Israel and the ICC.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine

Justice is slow, but it will get there.
Here is why nothing will happen. It all hinges on the DNC hack. And the FBI still hasn't accessed the servers. So anything with this won't hold up in court.

All that is left is process crimes. And I'm betting Trump doesn't speak to Mueller. And a Supeona gets quashed.

All that will be left is peripheral charges to small fry for unrelated issues.

And eventual pardons there.
 

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As oft stated. Two years in. Nothing of note.
So you are saying that Mueller, even though his investigation is ongoing, for sure would have given us what he already has, if he had anything. He would be giving us updates as he goes along and that he would not wait until the investigation is complete before divulging anything.
 

Butler1000

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So you are saying that Mueller, even though his investigation is ongoing, for sure would have given us what he already has, if he had anything. He would be giving us updates as he goes along and that he would not wait until the investigation is complete before divulging anything.
No. What I stated in the past and continue to state us that every single intelligence agency in the world, friend or foe, and every single media outlet have all had people and resources on this one question......

Did Trump collude with Russia?

And despite that weight of resources no one has come up with anything substantive to say yes.

So if the world without even the blocks of proper evidence collection for an investigation couldn't come up with and release anything.......why is Mueller going to succeed?

That's the point. Mueller is not working in a vacuum. Far too many would release the information and GO for impeachment if it was possible. Both domestic and foreign.
 

Frankfooter

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No. What I stated in the past and continue to state us that every single intelligence agency in the world, friend or foe, and every single media outlet have all had people and resources on this one question......

Did Trump collude with Russia?

And despite that weight of resources no one has come up with anything substantive to say yes.
Yet.

We know that there were multiple contacts between Trump and the Russians, as noted in the WP article in post #36.
Click on the article link to see the links to the evidence.

We know that Roger Stone was in contact with wikileaks, who leaked the Russian hacked dem emails.
We know that Stone knew in advance of the email leaks and we know that Mueller is getting closer to interviewing Stone.

We also just found out about Don Jr's attempts to gain aid from other foreign governments, which is illegal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html

And Guiliani is working hard to try to keep Trump from testifying.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-mueller-investigation-fbi
 

Frankfooter

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Here is why nothing will happen. It all hinges on the DNC hack. And the FBI still hasn't accessed the servers. So anything with this won't hold up in court.
The FBI has clones of the drives.
Why would you need the originals?
 

Butler1000

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The FBI has clones of the drives.
Why would you need the originals?
Denied access. And who knows if the copies were not tampered with.

No court will allow them in as evidence. The chain of evidence doesn't exist. The FBI did not make the copies. Therefore they have no legal standing.
 

Butler1000

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Yet.

We know that there were multiple contacts between Trump and the Russians, as noted in the WP article in post #36.
Click on the article link to see the links to the evidence.

We know that Roger Stone was in contact with wikileaks, who leaked the Russian hacked dem emails.
We know that Stone knew in advance of the email leaks and we know that Mueller is getting closer to interviewing Stone.

We also just found out about Don Jr's attempts to gain aid from other foreign governments, which is illegal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html

And Guiliani is working hard to try to keep Trump from testifying.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-mueller-investigation-fbi
Try reading what I have to say. If it hadn't been found yet imo it won't be.
 

Butler1000

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Prove that court's wouldn't take a backup drive as evidence.
Because they already would have been presented as evidence of a crime?

But I will leave this to Aardi if he sees it.

Heck I think even Oagre will say that a copy of a server that the FBI never saw as evidence of a crime wouldn't survive a judge. And now two years later even the original server wouldn't be allowed in.

It's s lost cause now. All because the DNC refused the FBI access.

Oh and perhaps you would care to answer the question no one else has......why deny the FBI access to a crime scene?
 
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