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Canadian doctor was shot on Gaza border during the protests

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canadian-doctor-shot-by-israeli-sniper-near-gaza-border/

One of the paramedics who assisted him after he was shot was later shot and killed. It certainly sounds like excessive force by the IDF. And they weren't far enough away that a sniper would miss - so unless it was indiscriminate fire - the hit must have been deliberate.
Very, very sad.

Canadian doctor shot by Israeli sniper near Gaza border

ROBERT FIFE
OTTAWA, OTTAWA BUREAU CHIEF
PUBLISHED MAY 15, 2018
UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO

A Canadian-Palestinian doctor was shot in the legs by an Israeli sniper and one of his paramedics was killed on the Gaza border Monday as clashes between Palestinian protesters and Israeli Defence Forces left dozens dead and more than 1,000 wounded.

Dr. Tarek Loubani, an emergency physician from London, Ont., who is also an associate professor at the University of Western Ontario’s medical school, joined medical teams on the Gaza border Monday to care for Palestinians who might be injured in demonstrations against the inauguration of the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem.

Dr. Loubani, who has served as an emergency field doctor in Tanzania and conflict zones such as Iraq and southern Lebanon, said he was wearing a green surgeon’s outfit and standing with several orange-vested paramedics about 25 metres from the protests at the border when he was hit.

“I am very seasoned about not being shot at. I know where to stand. I know where to be. I know how not to get shot,” he told The Globe and Mail in a telephone interview from Gaza where he recuperating. “Snipers don’t reach me because of mistakes. I did everything right. We were all huddled. We were high visibility. It was quiet at the exact moment I got shot. The bullet went through my left leg, through my right leg out and hit the ground.

Had he been closer to the border area, Dr. Loubani, 37, said he believes it would have “cost me my legs.” The leg wounds will require months of rehabilitation but he said he feels “incredibly lucky.”

Dr. Loubani, who is part of a medical team funded by the South African-based Shuttleworth Foundation that is field testing 3D-printed medical tourniquets, was helped by Palestinian paramedics on the scene, including 36-year old Musa Abuhassanin.

“I remember looking at my shoes and I remember thinking, ‘My god, how did so much blood get there so fast’,” he said. “One of them grabbed one of the last tourniquets. We were down to our last 10 tourniquets. I said ‘No, no leave it for someone else. Try to pressure bandage me.’ ’’

About an hour later, Mr. Abuhassanin was shot by a sniper while providing medical help to protesters north of where Dr. Loubani was shot. “There was relatively heavy fire that was going on. He was wearing a high visibility jacket. It was clearly marked. He was shot in the chest,” Dr. Loubani said. “They couldn’t remove him. They couldn’t recover him for about 30 minutes until finally they dragged him to a blind spot and then dragged him down a hill and took him to the hospital in a civilian vehicle. He died before he got to the hospital.”

Dr. Loubani said the paramedics are well trained but they did not know how to treat a serious chest wound. He said he feels guilty because he is confident he could have saved his friend’s life if he had not been wounded.

Eighteen paramedics were wounded that day but Mr. Abuhassanin was the only one killed by Israeli forces.

Dr. Loubani stressed he did not want the story to be about him but about the lack of medical services in poverty-ridden Gaza.

“This is not a political issue. This is about Palestinians as people and their right to health care. No matter where they are, even at protests,” he said. “It is about us as Canadians being in places where people need medical care and providing it to them and not having to be worried about being shot or hurt or killed because we are doing what we all agree everyone deserves.”

The Israeli embassy in Ottawa did not have an immediate response when asked for comment.

Amnesty International said it appears that the Israeli military were killing and maiming demonstrators who posed no imminent threat to them.

“This is another horrific example of the Israeli military using excessive force and live ammunition in a totally deplorable way,” said Philip Luther, research and advocacy director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International . “This is a violation of international standards, in some instances committing what appear to be willful killings constituting war crimes.”

Human Rights Watch said the high number of deaths and injuries was the foreseeable consequence of granting Israeli soldiers leeway to use lethal force outside of life-threatening situations in violation of international norms.

Even if some Palestinians were rock-throwing, this did not warrant the use of excessive force, Human Rights Watch said.

“Israeli soldiers were not merely using excessive force, but were apparently acting on orders that all but ensured a bloody military response to the Palestinian demonstrations,” said Eric Goldstein, deputy Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “The result was foreseeable deaths and injuries of demonstrators on the other side of a border who posed no imminent threat to life.”

Amnesty International called on the international community to stop the shipment of arms and military equipment to Israel.

In 2013, Dr. Loubani and Toronto filmmaker John Greyson spent 53 days in an Egyptian jail without being charged with any offence. They were arrested because Dr. Loubani had treated a severely wounded man during protests at Cario’s Ramses Square. At the time, the two men were on their way to Gaza, where Dr. Loubani regularly travels to to teach emergency medicine at al-Shifa hospital.

With files from Reuters and Associated Press
He opened an embassy in Jerusalem on Nakba!! Such an asshole.
 

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Dr. Loubani, was quite obviously within 100 meters of the Israeli border in a area which Israel has made quite clear is a no go zone.

Do you believe that the Canadian Government would tolerate people on the U.S. side of the Niagara River, flying kites with Molotov Cocktails with lit fuses over the river and setting fields and buildings on fire on the Canadian side?

Almost everyone killed yesterday turns out to have been not some innocent civilian but rather a Hamas Fighter.


Question was Dr. Loubani acting as a Canadian, and if so was he dressed in accordance with the ICRC regulations and the Geneva Conventions as to Medical non-combatants?
 

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Dr. Loubani, was quite obviously within 100 meters of the Israeli border in a area which Israel has made quite clear is a no go zone.

Do you believe that the Canadian Government would tolerate people on the U.S. side of the Niagara River, flying kites with Molotov Cocktails with lit fuses over the river and setting fields and buildings on fire on the Canadian side?

Almost everyone killed yesterday turns out to have been not some innocent civilian but rather a Hamas Fighter.


Question was Dr. Loubani acting as a Canadian, and if so was he dressed in accordance with the ICRC regulations and the Geneva Conventions as to Medical non-combatants?
3rd and 4th paragraphs:

Dr. Loubani, who has served as an emergency field doctor in Tanzania and conflict zones such as Iraq and southern Lebanon, said he was wearing a green surgeon’s outfit and standing with several orange-vested paramedics about 25 metres from the protests at the border when he was hit.

“I am very seasoned about not being shot at. I know where to stand. I know where to be. I know how not to get shot,” he told The Globe and Mail in a telephone interview from Gaza where he recuperating. “Snipers don’t reach me because of mistakes. I did everything right. We were all huddled. We were high visibility. It was quiet at the exact moment I got shot. The bullet went through my left leg, through my right leg out and hit the ground.
 

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3rd and 4th paragraphs:
Dr. Loubani, who has served as an emergency field doctor in Tanzania and conflict zones such as Iraq and southern Lebanon, said he was wearing a green surgeon’s outfit and standing with several orange-vested paramedics about 25 metres from the protests at the border when he was hit.
So seemingly he was indeed within 100 meters of the border. Further does "a green surgeon's outfit" or an "orange-vest" sound like what Medical Officers and Medical Technicians in the Canadian Armed Forces wear in combat conditions?
 

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So seemingly he was indeed within 100 meters of the border. Further does "a green surgeon's outfit" or an "orange-vest" sound like what Medical Officers and Medical Technicians in the Canadian Armed Forces wear in combat conditions?
You’d be shot in the head for wearing combat gear near the border.

No fatigues / camo allowed. I believe that’s everywhere in Gaza.

Paramedics dress like this. They wear hi-vis vests and when rescuing or treating patients near the border, they make themselves as visible as possible. Israeli snipers are supposed to not shoot at them or the people they are rescuing or treating:



The associate professor was dressed a bit like the person on the right:

 

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You’d be shot in the head for wearing combat gear near the border.
If you had notified the IDF and you were with some official ICRC group and you had the arm badges and the IDF shot you --- there would be extremely serious repercussions. It is quite obvious that that wasn't the case here.
 

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If you had notified the IDF and you were with some official ICRC group and you had the arm badges and the IDF shot you --- there would be extremely serious repercussions. It is quite obvious that that wasn't the case here.
We should call Gaza, ask for the Palestinian Authority, preferably Abbas, and tell them to tell the paramedics and doctors to do that.
 

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I guess more accurately he was dressed like this. Except with pant legs that hadn’t been cut off.

 

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CBC has this photo of the doctor and his team, one of whom was killed by Israel.


As CBC reports:
An Ontario physician who works at the London Health Sciences Centre has been shot in the leg while delivering emergency medicine to protesters on the Gaza Strip.

Dr. Tarek Loubani said it happened during a "lull" in the protest Monday, as he was standing with a group of paramedics about 25 metres away from the protest area.

"There were no fires, there was no smoke. We had clear lines of sight to all three fortified sniper posts," said Loubani.

"All of the sudden I heard a bang, and I found myself on the ground. I looked at my leg, I saw blood."

19 medical professionals shot
Loubani said his colleague, a paramedic named Musa Abuhassanin, came over and began working on his injured leg.

About an hour later, Abuhassanin was shot and killed while attempting to rescue another person, Loubani said.


Musa Abuhassanin works on a wounded patient shortly before his death. (Tarek Loubani/Medium)
All in all, Loubani said a total of 19 medical professionals were shot Monday.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/tarek-loubani-shot-gaza-1.4663694

There is no excuse for this.
 

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Dr. Loubani, was quite obviously within 100 meters of the Israeli border in a area which Israel has made quite clear is a no go zone.

Do you believe that the Canadian Government would tolerate people on the U.S. side of the Niagara River, flying kites with Molotov Cocktails with lit fuses over the river and setting fields and buildings on fire on the Canadian side?

Almost everyone killed yesterday turns out to have been not some innocent civilian but rather a Hamas Fighter.


Question was Dr. Loubani acting as a Canadian, and if so was he dressed in accordance with the ICRC regulations and the Geneva Conventions as to Medical non-combatants?
Who is surprised that Aardvark supports Israel's barbary and war crimes? Nobody... now let's watch him warp reality to make this medic look like a terrorist!
 
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They don't look readily identifiable as medical personnel amidst a crowd of people attempting to storm the Israeli border.
LOLz

Wait.

Are you serious?



Can you spot the Red Crescent uniform, the two paramedics and the 3 members of the press?

 

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LOLz

Wait.

Are you serious?



Can you spot the Red Crescent uniform, the two paramedics and the 3 members of the press?

Now try and do it when they are moving. The smoke is blowing around. And you have to do it in a few seconds.

I wish it hasn't happened. The last thing you want to see is this.

But it's essentially a war zone. And people die in war.
 

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Now try and do it when they are moving. The smoke is blowing around. And you have to do it in a few seconds.

I wish it hasn't happened. The last thing you want to see is this.

But it's essentially a war zone. And people die in war.
Yeah, that’s kind of the reason why you have to have medics there in the first place.

And to not get shot, they act the way this group acted, and dressed the way this group dressed.

Maybe Israeli snipers and their spotters should get better at their jobs, or reconsider firing on groups of civilians who haven’t breached the sacred fence.
 

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Yeah, that’s kind of the reason why you have to have medics there in the first place.

And to not get shot, they act the way this group acted, and dressed the way this group dressed.

Maybe Israeli snipers and their spotters should get better at their jobs, or reconsider firing on groups of civilians who haven’t breached the sacred fence.
Hamas created the war zone. Encouraged them to rush the fence. To use children

This is a staged event specifically to cost lives. And then use as propaganda.

My sympathies to the families of medical personnel and the lersinel themselves. None to the organizers and participants or their cause. They are literally throwing lives away needlessly.
 

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Now try and do it when they are moving. The smoke is blowing around. And you have to do it in a few seconds.

I wish it hasn't happened. The last thing you want to see is this.

But it's essentially a war zone. And people die in war.

It was NOT a war-zone. It was a protest that got violent with one-side horribly out-gunned. The Canadian doctor was with a group providing medical aid to the protestors and there is absolutely no way that his being shot was an accident. 60 people died in what was essentially target practice. Smoke and confusion is not an excuse. The IDF, particularly their snipers are well trained and would NOT shoot without clearly having a target in sights. They were obviously just following orders...

Ask yourself where else something like this could occur without international outcry, particularly from the U.S.
 

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Hamas created the war zone. Encouraged them to rush the fence. To use children

This is a staged event specifically to cost lives. And then use as propaganda.

My sympathies to the families of medical personnel and the lersinel themselves. None to the organizers and participants or their cause. They are literally throwing lives away needlessly.
You’re right.

This actually had nothing to do with the Israeli sniper firing on unarmed civilian paramedics and doctors.

If those darned Palestinians just stopped having babies, or moved to Toronto, problem solved.
 

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It was NOT a war-zone. It was a protest that got violent with one-side horribly out-gunned. The Canadian doctor was with a group providing medical aid to the protestors and there is absolutely no way that his being shot was an accident. 60 people died in what was essentially target practice. Smoke and confusion is not an excuse. The IDF, particularly their snipers are well trained and would NOT shoot without clearly having a target in sights. They were obviously just following orders...

Ask yourself where else something like this could occur without international outcry, particularly from the U.S.
Right. So they spent days before hand piling tires to burn and advertised it as a day when they would en mass enter Israeli territory.......

And then they burned the tires to create a smoke wall and tried to rush and invade Israeli territory.

So at what point did things not go as Hams planned? When they were beaten back? So either they are the absolute worst protest organizers on the planet or they got exactly what they wanted.

I would suggest the latter.
 

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Hamas created the war zone. Encouraged them to rush the fence. To use children

This is a staged event specifically to cost lives. And then use as propaganda.

My sympathies to the families of medical personnel and the lersinel themselves. None to the organizers and participants or their cause. They are literally throwing lives away needlessly.
It is not a war zone.
Here is a picture of the entrance to Gaza, a mile long walled in prison entrance.
https://twitter.com/BowenBBC/status...rphy/israeli-violence-met-global-condemnation

Gaza is a concentration camp.

This is what Human Rights Watch said.
Israel has killed 37 Palestinians in #GazaIsCollapsing today, & day's not even over.

This is about individual snipers safely ensconced hundreds of feet, even farther, away, targeting individual protesters and executing them one at a time. So inhumane.
https://twitter.com/sarahleah1/status/996010339237056514

This is what Democracy Now said:
@sharifkouddous on Gaza yesterday: "The sniper bullets don't come in quick succession… You hear a shot, someone falls down. His bloody body is carried away. You wait a few minutes, you have another shot… And that's how 1,350 people were shot yesterday—slowly—by Israel" #DNlive
https://twitter.com/democracynow/st...rphy/israeli-violence-met-global-condemnation

Israel used snipers to slowly shoot civilians over 150 metres away, inside the Gaza prison walls.
 
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