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A Fifth Of Canada's Working Baby Boomers Have Nothing Saved For Retirement

Smallcock

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I personally hate stats where we get "the average."

As I believe I'm below average when it comes to building a retirement nest egg. The reality is I have always invested in mutual funds and stocks, topped up my RRSP and earned a solid income. However, I have spent the last 20 years living carefree. I've traveled to over 60 countries and made some bad investments. I only have about $650k saved and I'm not sure even if I focus on the next 10 years to keep saving it will be be enough to stop working. I don't really consider my home an investment. Its worth $1M but so what I need a place to sleep after all. The cost of living in Toronto is too high. I will probably need to find a new city to live in during my golden years if I want my money to last.

But I dont regret a damn thing.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
You've had an amazing life so far.

Are you mortgage free or will be in a few years? Are you single? A $1M home plus $650k saved.... you're way above "average".
 

james t kirk

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Just keep working until you can't any more (worn out, health problems, you can't deal with work any more, you loose your health, there are lots of reasons, but wanting to be on vacation and not work is not one of them).

I find the notion of "retirement" kind of quaint myself. Kind of like the notion of over-time. I can't relate to that either.
 

Butler1000

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Just keep working until you can't any more (worn out, health problems, you can't deal with work any more, you loose your health, there are lots of reasons, but wanting to be on vacation and not work is not one of them).

I find the notion of "retirement" kind of quaint myself. Kind of like the notion of over-time. I can't relate to that either.
In about ten years I will be retiring. To travel 365 days a year. Or thereabouts. For about 5 to 10 years.

Watching a few friends basically work/stress/drink themselves to death by 60 has convinced me I don't need to continue to make others happy through work.

Going minimalist(already starting) and getting out of Ontario. This last election, no matter the outcome has convinced me it's no place to retire.
 

fall

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I am personally, the complete opposite to him. I consider my monthly savings like any other monthly bill that comes in. I stress like mad every month about my bills. It is an anxiety issue I have. It doesn't matter how much is the bank, how easily I can pay that extra high CC bill at Xmas during the month the money is due, doesn't matter if I save a grand a month, every month - I worry about money for the future. Like badly and all the time.

Then again I was a homeless teen at one point ( mom and dad where split, Dad and I didn't reconnect until later in life). That is where my anxiety stems from. I never want to be homeless or hungry again. It has been my driving force since 17. I am the type who could have millions in the bank and I would still feel itnisnnot enough money.

I can't wrap my head around people like my dad. Don't get me wrong, I love my poppi to pieces, but to not pay a single bill and fee "meh, I will get it next month" - nope. I would be climbing the walls, biting my nails, going completely mad. Weird how people's brains are all wired so differently.
This is the most important part of the 'no saving" phenomena for most young adults in Canada and U.S.. People who grew up in poor homes know the value of money and the need for saving. Often parents who grew up poor can pass this notion/behaviour to their children through their own example. Unfortunately, it will be lost at the third generation (grandchildren). Despite what many "old" (55-65 y.o.) folks say here, their childhood was not "poor" (yes, they did not have fancy toys, but they had meet to eat every day and their families did have a car and, maybe, even a washing machine and a dishwasher), but their parents' was, so, current baby boomers are still save more and consume less then their children do. But if you compare current 15-30 y.o. children of "old-time" Canadians vs. schoolchildren whose parents came to Canada from poor countries (excluding "refuges", of course), you can see that latter worry more about their future and money than former. Just go to any University and you can see that Engineering and Business Schools students have mostly Chinese, Indian, Arabs and Eastern Europeans while English Literature, Philosophy, and Arts students are "white Canadians" whose families lived in Canada for at least 3 generations. I, myself, came to Canada 20 years ago with zero financial assets (and zero family assets in my home country), make a decent $100K+ wage, was able to accumulate about $1M in investments, and, yet, I have to force myself to spend $20 on a lunch or go to a sit down restaurant. My kids are a bit better: they are OK ordering their preferred sandwich at Subway instead of going for a "daily special" or buying a bottle drink instead of ordering a tab water. But you see the idea: once you have lived on rice with occasional chicken as a child, you do not want to spend the price of a half-chicken on a can of soda. I must admit that when it comes to SPs, I am a big tipper though :). But maybe it is because I usually see very young SPs and I feel that $180/hh (with $60-$80 going to the agency) is just too little. Same way I always tip at Subway but hate to do it at sit down restaurant with entitled waiters.
 

fall

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In about ten years I will be retiring. To travel 365 days a year. Or thereabouts. For about 5 to 10 years.
And this is exactly the example of the "second generation" I am talking about. The parents' family did not have lots of money when they were kids, so, they passed the "save money" attitude to their children. Most of that children (current baby boomers) saved sufficient money for retirement and they are willing to retire while they still can work and spend money for travel, but, at the same time, they did not extrapolate the notion of saving from themselves to the family, so, they are willing to spend all their saved money instead of building up the inheritance.
 

Butler1000

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And this is exactly the example of the "second generation" I am talking about. The parents' family did not have lots of money when they were kids, so, they passed the "save money" attitude to their children. Most of that children (current baby boomers) saved sufficient money for retirement and they are willing to retire while they still can work and spend money for travel, but, at the same time, they did not extrapolate the notion of saving from themselves to the family, so, they are willing to spend all their saved money instead of building up the inheritance.
No kids. And with the way I've budgeted things we will still leave money behind. Probably some to whichever niece or nephew gets POA in case of incompetence. And some to charity.

But yes I plan to spent some hard earned money on myself.

Right now I can take 100 out of the bank and a week later have 100 in the wallet. I don't spent frivilously on anything really. Everything bought now is based on need not want.
 
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