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Bronfmann warns of schism between diaspora and Israel

basketcase

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Your 'reasonably functioning democracy' has turned into an apartheid state that's practicing state terrorism while their snipers target practice on women and children.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with Hamas calling for all of Gaza to protest for their Right of Return.
The big problem is when Israel shoots those protesters in order to keep them from gaining their universally recognized human rights.
And look at all those excuss why you automatically reject what Israel says while accepting any statement from Hamas terrorists. Actually that's not even true. You even ignore Hamas when they admit they planned violence and that the vast majority of the dead are their operatives.

And yes, there absolutely is something wrong with Hamas calling for protests to eliminate Israel and remove the Jewish presence, at least to moral people.
 

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p.s. I see you want to ignore that the vast majority of Palestinians reject your idea (and ignore the 47% of Palestinians who support terrorism).
 

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And look at all those excuss why you automatically reject what Israel says while accepting any statement from Hamas terrorists.
I quote HRW, Amnesty, the UN, the ICC, B'teselem and a host of reputable news sources.
You are the one here quoting only the occupying army, the IDF, while justifying shooting children, medics and journalists.
 

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I quote ....
Numbers explicitly from the Hamas ministry of Health. There is no other source for the numbers.

But then you turn around and ignore Hamas when they say that 53 of the 62 dead were terrorist members and that they had planned for violence from the start.
 

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Numbers explicitly from the Hamas ministry of Health. There is no other source for the numbers.

But then you turn around and ignore Hamas when they say that 53 of the 62 dead were terrorist members and that they had planned for violence from the start.
Those numbers come from hospitals in Gaza, not Hamas.
They are confirmed by MSF and the PCHR, as well as other sources.

Now that you are supporting state terrorism and the shooting of civilians, your views on what is acceptable are themselves no longer acceptable.
 

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Hospitals run by the Hamas Ministry of Health.


And despite what you want to pretend, Hamas is a terrorist entity.
Your nazi propaganda techniques, where you constantly blame Hamas for everything while supporting shooting civilians is getting out of control.
Claiming that the hospitals in Gaza are 'terrorist entities' is pretty f'd' up.
 

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Your nazi propaganda techniques, where you constantly blame Hamas for everything while supporting shooting civilians is getting out of control.
Claiming that the hospitals in Gaza are 'terrorist entities' is pretty f'd' up.
Do you deny that Hamas runs Gaza and all media reports opely admit they are using numbers provided by the Hamas ministry of Health?

Hamas are the only ones near nazi here and you openly support them just because you agree with their plan of a Jew free region.
 

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Do you deny that Hamas runs Gaza and all media reports opely admit they are using numbers provided by the Hamas ministry of Health?

Hamas are the only ones near nazi here and you openly support them just because you agree with their plan of a Jew free region.
You would have been one of the followers in Jonestown.

Why not listen to Jews talk about the schism instead of your fanatical boosterism??
https://vimeo.com/270219597
 

basketcase

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You would have been one of the followers in Jonestown.

Why not listen to Jews talk about the schism instead of your fanatical boosterism??
https://vimeo.com/270219597
So you refuse to answer those questions and instead go all racist and decide to quote a Jew. Ideas are ideas and if you insist on attaching the religion of the speaker then it really says something about you.

And yes, Hamas openly repeats the same goal as Nazi Germany when it comes to Jews. Why are you okay with that?
 

Frankfooter

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So not only do you think Israel shouldn't have a right to exist you think they have no right to manage their own borders. Nice.
Why do you always resort to lies when you've been caught out with facts?
Just like you still can't tell us where you think the borders of Israel are, here you are claiming that Israel is free to manage borders and decide unilaterally where they lie.
 

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Why do you always resort to lies when you've been caught out with facts?...
Sorry but you have admitted you want Israel replaced with an Arab majority state and support Hamas despite the only state Hamas wants is one free of Jews.
 

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Sorry but you have admitted you want Israel replaced with an Arab majority state and support Hamas despite the only state Hamas wants is one free of Jews.
Once again I challenge you to either back up this statement or admit you are lying again.
But we both know you'll just shout 'Hamas, Hamas, Hamas!' instead of manning up.
 

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Once again I challenge you to either back up this statement or admit you are lying again.
But we both know you'll just shout 'Hamas, Hamas, Hamas!' instead of manning up.
Are you now denying you have been repeatedly advocating Israel be turned into an Arab majority state (despite the Palestinians hating the idea)?

Are you denying you think Hamas have given up on terrorism and that you claim they are interested in peace?
 

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Are you now denying you have been repeatedly advocating Israel be turned into an Arab majority state (despite the Palestinians hating the idea)?

Are you denying you think Hamas have given up on terrorism and that you claim they are interested in peace?
I knew you couldn't prove your claims.
You should now apologize, if you had any morals.
 

basketcase

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I knew you couldn't prove your claims.
You should now apologize, if you had any morals.
You haven't denied it.

You have openly stated you want a Muslim majority state. You openly support a group that wants an Islamic theocracy instead of an egalitarian democracy.

Sorry but as long as you continue to back Hamas, your claims of wanting equal rights is a farce.
 

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You haven't denied it.

You have openly stated you want a Muslim majority state.
No, I have continually stated I argue for a one state solution with equal rights for all.
I deny it.

How are you any better with your demands that you support only a Jewish majority state?
 

basketcase

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No, I have continually stated I argue for a one state solution with equal rights for all.
I deny it....
Which means an Arab dominated state. Combined with you repeatedly claiming Jews have no right to be in the region, it makes claer that you want the same thing as Hamas.

And seriously, how can you cheer on Hamas while pretending to be concerned with rights?
 
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