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The Ontario election is between the NDP and PCs

dickydoem

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I found the below comment on Warren Kinsella's blog and I thought I'd share it because Doug Ford seems to be freaking out over something, I mean the other day he actually said Horawth is 10 times worse then Wynne, if this keeps up he'll be campaigning on Wynne's behalf.

SoI don't think Tory support is as solid as people think, read below.

"Tory campaign center erroneously called me (hysterically, a lifelong Liberal voter) about a week ago. Wanted to ensure they had my support. We shared a laugh at the error and an interesting convo ensued.

This volunteer had been calling Conservatives from the ‘Shwa to the Sault, from border to border and told me he’d heard one overwhelming message: card carrying Tories like their local candidate but are ultimately staying home and NOT voting PERIOD because of the leader. He told me he’d lost count of how many times he’s heard this. They are VERY worried about turnout, especially among older voters.

Ford is polarizing the party and the volunteer’s sense is that the polling numbers do not reflect what he feels is an inherent, dangerous softness to Tory support.

If the centre-left keeps moving to Horvath, this thing could surprise the hell out of everyone!"

Really why would anyone believe any of this from the" king of dirty tricks"? I doubt that any of this ever happened. Just Kinsella bullshit.
 

essguy_

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I keep telling you guys that calling this election (at this time) is a mugs game. Low voter turnout, strategic voting, protest votes.... ALL of this means that support AT THE POLLS will be volatile.

Eg: Low voter turnout, but high participation amongst special interest groups, could result in a majority for Ford or Horwath.

Wynn could even squeak in with a microscopic minority if Ford does something characteristcally stupid and a last minute shift happens amongst thinking Conservative voters (who despise Ford) to prevent Horwath from winning. Remember when Hudak pulled defeat from the jaws of victory? Remember when Tory did the same?

How long ago was it that Brown was supposed to be annointed our next Premier? And the CPC still has the same internal shit going on, just a new idiot fronting it and pretending they know what they’re doing.

This is probably the most volatile support (with the exception of NDP voters) in any recent Canadian election. No point making predictions now, because the landscape could change really quickly.
 

Butler1000

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It came from someone commenting on his site, not Kinsella.
It was written by Kinsella. About a conversation. With no cooberation it happened. And he is a liberal party operative. Through and through.
 

essguy_

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It was written by Kinsella. About a conversation. With no cooberation it happened. And he is a liberal party operative. Through and through.
Kinsella is a Kinsella operative. Eg: He was no friend of Martin’s Govt, and he was no friend of Wynne in the last Prov election. He’s Liberal but to label him a “Liberal party operative” just means you havent been reading him enough.

Eg: you’re more of a Trump operative than Kinsella is a Liberal party operative. At least Kinsella will be critical when it’s warranted, whereas Trump could shit in your mouth and you would somehow rationalise some excuse.
 

Butler1000

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Kinsella is a Kinsella operative. Eg: He was no friend of Martin’s Govt, and he was no friend of Wynne in the last Prov election. He’s Liberal but to label him a “Liberal party operative” just means you havent been reading him enough.

Eg: you’re more of a Trump operative than Kinsella is a Liberal party operative. At least Kinsella will be critical when it’s warranted, whereas Trump could shit in your mouth and you would somehow rationalise some excuse.
The world doesn't revolve around Trump. Can you speak about another topic without bringing him up.

Amazing.

And Kinsella is a liberal party operative. He just sees Wynne as a liability now and is cutting ties for cred. He is smart enough to realize the libs are toast. And so is trying to appear balanced. But in the end whoever wins will be under his gun and whoever comes out on top for the libs internally will have his undivided support in the next election.

No doubt there is a certain mercenary streak in him but he is always angling for the govt position.
 

omegaphallic

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I keep telling you guys that calling this election (at this time) is a mugs game. Low voter turnout, strategic voting, protest votes.... ALL of this means that support AT THE POLLS will be volatile.

Eg: Low voter turnout, but high participation amongst special interest groups, could result in a majority for Ford or Horwath.

Wynn could even squeak in with a microscopic minority if Ford does something characteristcally stupid and a last minute shift happens amongst thinking Conservative voters (who despise Ford) to prevent Horwath from winning. Remember when Hudak pulled defeat from the jaws of victory? Remember when Tory did the same?

How long ago was it that Brown was supposed to be annointed our next Premier? And the CPC still has the same internal shit going on, just a new idiot fronting it and pretending they know what they’re doing.

This is probably the most volatile support (with the exception of NDP voters) in any recent Canadian election. No point making predictions now, because the landscape could change really quickly.
Actually I think low turn out among Tory voters, but higher then expected Millenial turnout for the NDP will have exactly the effect you discribe.
 

Butler1000

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The comment I quoted wasn't written by Kinsella, it was written by a visitor to his sight.
Great. Some anonymous visitor to a web site of a partisan writer. With an anecdote.

That's what passes for credible information?
 

Moviefan-2

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Wynne could even squeak in with a microscopic minority if Ford does something characteristcally stupid and a last minute shift happens amongst thinking Conservative voters (who despise Ford) to prevent Horwath from winning.
Not gonna happen.

If you're on Twitter, check out David Akin's tweets. After taking Saturday off, Wynne is scheduled to make return visits Sunday to some Mississauga ridings that the Liberals won handily in 2014. That includes her fourth visit this campaign to Mississauga-Malton, a riding the Liberals won by 23 points four years ago.

It's over for the Liberals. All Wynne is trying to do now is salvage as many seats as she can.
 

omegaphallic

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shack

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This is huge. If the Liberals can't count on on-the-ground support from teachers, then they're in even bigger trouble.
And if the Libs and NDP supporters become united it is even bigger trouble for the Cons.
 

omegaphallic

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I expect the Cons are done because even if they win, the NDP and Liberals will form a coalition.
They will say they *have* to do it for the good of the people... that boogeyman Ford has driven them to it.
This is pretty much going to decimate Ontario.
This is before the effects of the 407 scandal fully hits, I hear there are 29 PC candidates who could be charged their is even a petition for charges and to call in the police.

If this happens to the PCs stick a fork in them because they are done, it's too late to replace 29 people at this point.
 

jcpro

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I doubt it. Ford is the wrong candidate. The party fucked up when they had the perfect choice on a silver platter.
When the coalition hits, may the Lord have mercy on us all. More taxation, more free stuff, then the inevitable market crash and interest rate hikes.
There will not be any coalition. I have a feeling that there will be a late Liberal surge that will effectively split the left's vote, clearing the path for the PC majority. The anti Ford hysteria has not yet reached the feaver pitch, but the "hysterical vote" will go to the Liberals and not to the NDP.
 
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