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(by the way, I made a mistake. the study linked above claims 97.1% consensus. The study claiming 99.94% consensus is this one:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0270467617707079
That study looks at an even larger range of articles and is based on 54,195 articles.)
Your peer review study is flaw and have been debunked! Here why James Powell is wrong !! Here is why is peer reviewed articles have major flaws!,

https://critical-angle.net/2016/04/04/james-powell-is-wrong-about-the-99-99-agw-consensus/
James Powell is wrong about the 99.99% AGW consensus
In a recent article in Skeptical Inquirer, geologist and writer James Lawrence Powell, claims that there is a 99.99% scientific consensus on Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). You might think that after all of the harsh criticism that the 2013 Cook et al. paper (C13) has received from climate contrarians that we would be pleased to embrace the results of a critique that claims we were far too conservative in assessing the consensus. While it certainly does make a nice change from the usual rants and overblown methodological nit-picks from the contrarians, Powell is wrong to claim such a very high degree of agreement.

He makes many of the same errors that contrarian critics make: ignoring the papers self-rated by the original authors; and making unwarranted assumptions about what the “no-position” abstracts and papers mean.


Powell’s methodology was to search the Web of Science to review abstracts from 2013 and 2014. He added the search term “climate change” to the terms “global climate change” and “global warming” that were used by C13. He examined 24,210 papers co-authored by 69,406 scientists and found only five papers written by four authors that explicitly reject AGW. Assuming the rest of the abstracts endorsed AGW, this gives consensus figures of 99.98% (by abstract) and 99.99%
(by author).

His definition of explicit rejection would align roughly with the seventh level of endorsement used in C13: “Explicitly states that humans are causing less than half of global warming” . In the abstracts from 1991-2011, C13 found 9 out of 11,914 that fit level 7, which using Powell’s consensus calculation assumptions, would yield 99.92%. So, there is probably not much difference between the two approaches when it comes to identifying an outright rejection paper. It’s what you assume the other abstracts say—or do not say—that is the problem.

C13 also counted as “reject AGW” abstracts that: “Implies humans have had a minimal impact on global warming without saying so explicitly, e.g., proposing a natural mechanism is the main cause of global warming”. These are more numerous than the explicit rejections and include papers by scientists who consider that natural causes are more important than human causes in recent warming, but who do not outright reject some small human contribution.

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Competing Climate Consensus Pacmen. Cook on the left, Powell on the right.

Perhaps the simplest argument that shows that Powell is wrong is that surveys conducted in the past ten years consistently show a stubborn, small minority of scientists who dismiss the mainstream expert view on AGW. These studies include polls of scientists, analyses of the published literature and examination of the public statements of scientists (see the references below). In a new paper that is currently in press we found that consensus increases with the degree of climate science expertise of the populations studied. When the studies are limited to publishing climatologists, the consensus ranges from 84- 98%. The specific criteria chosen for what constitutes endorsement or rejection of the consensus also influences outcomes.

There are a few scientists—and even a very few who actively publish in the peer-reviewed literature on climatology—who reject or play down the human role in recent climate change. In the second part of the C13 paper, we asked the authors of the articles whose abstracts we had analyzed to rate their own papers. We received self-ratings on 2141 papers, among which 39 (1.8%) were self-rated as rejecting AGW. Of the 1189 authors who responded, 28 (2.4%) wrote papers that rejected AGW to some degree or other. The dissenters are but a small percentage of the many thousands of scientists working on climate change. They may or may not be doing good science, but it would be foolish to deny that they exist.

The no-position abstracts and papers

Powell’s main beef is that we ruled out of the calculation of consensus the two-thirds of the abstracts that did not take a position on AGW. Since the analysis of the abstracts was limited to the text, we could not guess what the non-expressed opinions of the authors were. Powell:

[James] Hansen had a total of six articles in Cook et al.’s “no position” category. A number of other prominent climate scientists show up there as well. These include (with the number of articles): R. Bradley (3), K. Briffa (2), E. Cook (5), M. Hughes (2), P. Jones (3), T. Karl (5), M. Mann (2), M. Oppenheimer (3), B. Santer (2), G. Schmidt (3), the late S. Schneider (3), S. Solomon (5), K. Trenberth (7), and T. Wigley (3). Cook et al. ruled them all out of the consensus calculation.

It is maybe worth noting that the fact that we classified abstracts by many prominent mainstream climate scientists as “no-position” rebuts the notion that we regularly cheated by looking up the authors of the abstracts and classifying them accordingly.

Powell continues: (with my emphasis)

Most of these authors, like Hansen, also have articles in one or more of the three endorsing categories. Again, we see that the Cook et al. method is about language and the subject of articles rather than whether their authors accept AGW.

Bingo. It wasn’t an opinion poll and we didn’t try to guess what the authors think about AGW generally, we just relied on their specific abstracts. [Edited for clarity]

Many papers on the impacts of global climate change did not mention a human cause. A good number of papers on impacts looked only at local or regional—not global—climatic change. The majority of the paleo-climate papers did not mention the modern era at all.

By assuming that “no-position” abstracts or papers are tacit endorsements, Powell makes the same error that contrarian critics make when they claim that the “no positions” count as rejections or don’t-knows. By making such assumptions you either end up with results that the consensus is implausibly large or absurdly small.


Powell, arguing from personal incredulity:

Since it is inconceivable that any climate scientist today could have no opinion on the subject, if 97 percent accept AGW it follows that 3 percent reject it.

Studies like Doran and Zimmerman (2009) and Verheggen et al (2014) do actually get a few “don’t know” answers from samples identified as climate scientists. Some of these “don’t knows” may in fact be “can’t say” answers to questions that the scientists think were poorly framed. But it is surely likely that, in a sample of scientists that contains a minority that outright denies the major human influence on climate, there may also be a few who are genuinely uncertain about it.

Powell:

A scientist who has evidence that AGW is false will be eager to say so and to present that evidence. Who among us would not love to be that scientist!

This is a valid point. Mainstream scientists will be inclined to reserve the limited space of their abstracts for reporting novel results, therefore, statements of the obvious (endorsement of the consensus) may well go unmentioned. On the other hand, a result that goes against the grain of the consensus is, by definition, a novel result and is more likely to be explicitly reported. The C13 methodology, therefore, may well have systematically overestimated the relative level of rejection of AGW. (There was at least one exception to this, though, see the Footnote.)

To be continued on next post below:
 

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Plate tectonics

Powell examined 500 recent articles on plate tectonics and found that none of them explicitly endorsed the theory and none rejected it. He claims that if you applied the C13 methodology to plate tectonics you would get a meaningless result.

I did my own little survey on a smaller, not very representative sample. I also found no explicit endorsements and no rejections at all. I was generous with what I considered to be an implicit endorsement, as I wrote: “It was sufficient for the abstract [to merit an implied endorsement rating] only to mention a plate tectonic process (e.g., displaced continents, sea-floor spreading, continental collisions etc.).” Even so, this only amounted to 5 out of the 65 articles that I looked at, about 7%. Nevertheless, if you include implicit endorsements as C13 did for AGW, the methodology works just fine for plate tectonics and produces a 100% consensus.

Anecdotally, I don’t recall reading a single paper that doubts plate tectonics that was published in the forty years since I graduated in geology. The last geologist I met who was a continental drift denier was a professor who taught my introductory geology class at the University of Sheffield in 1972. Of course, there’s no doubt any more, plate tectonics is accepted by virtually everyone and I wouldn’t quibble with anybody saying that the scientific consensus on plate tectonics approaches 100%. There were a few stubborn drift deniers who hung on for a a decade or two after the late 1960s (particularly in the Former Soviet Union), but they are nearly all dead now.

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Joking aside, plate tectonics was never politically controversial (via Pinterest)

However, in the public domain, plate tectonics is not like climate science. There has never been any political or ideological controversy about moving continents, even as the sometimes bitter scientific debates raged. There were no newspapers running editorials talking about the lack of consensus, no politicians denying the science because they can’t or won’t accept the policy implications, and no large industries and political parties deliberately manufacturing doubt. Nobody stole the geologists’ private communications looking for damning comments that they could take out of context and use to falsely accuse them of fraud.

The plate-tectonic deniers after the late 1960s were mostly older geologists who had invested their careers in developing geological models that had quickly become obsolete. A certain stubbornness is to be expected among curmudgeons whose students suddenly claim to know more about their subjects than they do.

In contrast, some of today’s AGW contrarians are non-climatologists and were drawn to the subject because of the political implications of emissions mitigation. There are also a few real climatologists who object to the current consensus, not because it threatens the basic physical models that they are familiar with, but because they think that the AGW prognosis is overstated and less certain than is generally reported. These scientists are few. Some of them may well be politically or religiously motivated, many of them may enjoy the notoriety that taking a contrarian stance brings, a handful may be paid by industrial interests to produce contrarian “deliverables”. But they exist.

No true Scotsman

There may not be many scientists who doubt the human cause of recent climate change but, because of politics, their influence is exaggerated and the public has been quite deliberately misled about the level of consensus in climate science. Still, I think it is counter-productive to claim that the number of dissenters is near-zero.

To claim that only 1 in 1000 or 10,000 experts rejects AGW can only be justified by classifying dissenters as not true climate scientists. This is similar to the well-known logical fallacy of “no true Scotsman” that redefines the credentials of someone based on his views or actions.

The names of the few dissenters are relatively better known to the public (thanks to Rupert Murdoch and the Republican Party) than the many thousands of climate scientists who toil away in relative obscurity.To claim that they are an insignificant minority invites disbelief.

As a young researcher I remember the advice of an older geophysicist from the University of Glasgow, Adam C McLean (a true Scotsman), who counselled me and others never to exaggerate our arguments, because it makes them easier to contradict. (To this day, I try to screen everything I write, cutting out all of the adverbs that I can, in particular, “very”.)

Powell argues that if there were a small percentage of dissenting scientists, even as low as 3%, the public perception would be that those scientists could turn out to be a group heralding a coming paradigm shift in climate science. Indeed, that’s how some of the dissenters portray themselves, as Galileos fighting the orthodoxy. The AGW consensus is not, however, based on an immutable sacred text, but rather is a consequence of a consilience between constantly updated, multiple lines of evidence and basic physical theory.

Moreover, the would-be Galileos are mutually incoherent. They do not present an alternative scientific model in the way that the fixists and mobilists did in the continental drift debate. Rather, contrarians put forward a number of different objections such as: “it’s the sun”; “it’s ocean cycles”, “it’s undersea volcanoes”, “it’s planetary cycles”, “it’s cosmic waves”; “the CO2 comes out of the ocean”; “it’s all too uncertain” and so on. They disagree as much among themselves as they do with the mainstream science.

It is certainly true that the public has been misled about the scale of scientific dissent on AGW. The most vociferous critics of C13 are those who like to portray the dissenters as a substantial and repressed minority, not as a 3% fringe group. However, whether the dissenters make up 10%, 3% or 0.001% is immaterial: that’s still a marginal proportion in the public’s eyes. The contrarian pundits insist that the dissenting scientists make up such a large minority that AGW dissent should be given equal time in the press, congressional hearings and the classroom. That’s nonsense, of course.

Powell claims that “…there is virtually no publishable evidence against AGW. That is why scientists accept the theory.” He is right, to the extent that much of the published contrarian literature is bad science, is infrequently cited and, in most cases, ought never to have been published. But he’s wrong to claim that “…99.99% of scientists publishing today accept AGW.” That is not true—although I wish it were—and it is foolish to make such a strong claim that can be so easily contradicted
 

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There is one positive thing to say about Powell’s work. Unlike the AGW-doubting critics of C13, he does not just talk about his problems with the C13 methodology. He backed up his criticism with replication work of his own and produced an independent estimate of the AGW consensus. Although I disagree with his result, at least he presented one.

References

Anderegg, W. R. L., Prall, J. W., Harold, J., & Schneider, S. H. (2010). Expert credibility in climate change. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 107, 12107-12109.

Bray, D (2010) The scientific consensus of climate change revisited. Environmental Science & Policy, 13, 340-350. doi: 10.1016/j.envsci.2010.04.001.

Carlton, J. S., Perry-Hill, R., Huber, M., & Prokopy, L. S. (2015). The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists. Environmental Research Letters, 10(9), 094025.

Cook, J., Nuccitelli, D., Green, S.A., Richardson, M., Winkler, B., Painting, R., Way, R., Jacobs, P., & Skuce, A. (2013). Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature. Environmental Research Letters, 8(2), 024024+.

Doran, P., & Zimmerman, M. (2009). Examining the scientific consensus on climate change. Eos, Transactions American Geophysical Union, 90, 22.

Oreskes N. (2004) Beyond the ivory tower. The scientific consensus on climate change. Science, 306:1686.

Powell, J. (2015). The Consensus on Anthropogenic Global Warming. Skeptical Inquirer. Available at:

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_consensus_on_anthropogenic_global_warming

Rosenberg, S., Vedlitz, A., Cowman, D. F., & Zahran, S. (2010). Climate change: a profile of US climate scientists’ perspectives. Climatic Change, 101(3-4), 311-329.

Verheggen, B., Strengers, B., Cook, J., van Dorland, R., Vringer, K., Peters, J., Visser, H. & Meyer, L. (2014). Scientists’ views about attribution of global warming. Environmental science & technology, 48(16), 8963-8971.

Footnote on over-reporting rejection abstracts

Astrophysicist Nir Shaviv complained (archived blogpost) that C13 misrepresented his paper, rating it as an explicit AGW endorsement (level 2), when in fact his work showed that part of the 20th Century warming was due to solar activity. He wrote (screenshot):

I couldn’t write these things more explicitly in the paper because of the refereeing, however, you don’t have to be a genius to reach these conclusions from the paper.

I’ll admit that his abstract fooled us, in the same way that his entire paper got past his reviewers. So, it is not always the case that contrarians will clearly report their novel results in an abstract.
 

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You have no more false authority to tell me what my motivation is than you do to tell me that my neutral position is not permitted....
You are "permitted" any opinion you want and I'm allowed to call you out for your reliance on faith and refusal to accept the masses of scientific data.
 

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An estimation?
You do not provide an estimation to two significant figures
Not unless you are trying to imply precision, which is not appropriate unless you can prove the estimate data & calcs are that precise
99.94% implies extremely close to absolute, which we know is not correct
So another piece of false information from Frankfooter/ Groggy
Fail
I quoted the studies number off the top of my head with accuracy to one decimal point and then later when I used a link to the study I used the published 2 decimal points.
Your comments are ridiculous as this is totally acceptable.

b) The question was not about confidence levels, it was about precision
Fail again
Stating that they referred to 54,195 articles and linking to the study wasn't 'precise' enough for you?
You fail.


Peer assessed?
That is an opinion poll.
They read 54,195 articles and based their findings on those papers, that's not an 'opinion poll', that is objectively judging the sum of published science on climate change.
Fail again.



As stated many times before
I am not arguing that these numbers are not statistically significant, nor am i arguing they are.

What part of "neutral" do you not understand?
You are stating you do not believe the study saying that there is 99.94% consensus, you do not believe peer assessed scientific works and you do not think it important that about 54 thousand papers show your 'neutral' claims to be just weak assed climate change denial.
 

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You are "permitted" any opinion you want and I'm allowed to call you out for your reliance on faith and refusal to accept the masses of scientific data.
See post # 201 ! Your masses of scientific data is flaw!
 

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I quoted the studies number off the top of my head with accuracy to one decimal point and then later when I used a link to the study I used the published 2 decimal points.
Your comments are ridiculous as this is totally acceptable.



Stating that they referred to 54,195 articles and linking to the study wasn't 'precise' enough for you?
You fail.




They read 54,195 articles and based their findings on those papers, that's not an 'opinion poll', that is objectively judging the sum of published science on climate change.
Fail again.





You are stating you do not believe the study saying that there is 99.94% consensus, you do not believe peer assessed scientific works and you do not think it important that about 54 thousand papers show your 'neutral' claims to be just weak assed climate change denial.
See post # 201.

You fail ! Checkmate you lost loser ! You have no credibility!!

Why did you changed your name from Groggy to Frankfooter?

PS. You admit on previous post on Terb just before the Ontario election announcement , your an NDPer ... Now I understand your support government on climate Change rebranded " previously known as global warming" ... Carbon tax from climate change equal to more revenue for NDP / leftie government them to spend more for pet project like free dental care/ free tutoring...etc.
 

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See post # 201.
Cutting and pasting blog posts isn't making a point.
Your blog makes vague allegations but provides no evidence and ignores the fact that all his 'points' are directly dealt with in the original paper.
Only someone who copies and pastes and doesn't actually read or think about what they posts would claim they made a point.

You should try reading the original article and understanding it first, you wouldn't make such obvious mistakes like posting fake Time Magazine websites, for instance.
 

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Cutting and pasting blog posts isn't making a point.
Your blog makes vague allegations but provides no evidence and ignores the fact that all his 'points' are directly dealt with in the original paper.
Only someone who copies and pastes and doesn't actually read or think about what they posts would claim they made a point.

You should try reading the original article and understanding it first, you wouldn't make such obvious mistakes like posting fake Time Magazine websites, for instance.
My post based on peer reviewed paper... Not like you a king of BULSHIT! Not like you who demonized the climate scientists like Judith Curry without any evidences of flaw methodology in Judith Curry recently published article peer reviewed Climate studies .

By the way what grade did you drop out of High School ?



Your flaw peer reviewed article in the peer reviewed journal is so full of flaws! With major assumptions that is flaw & easily du bunked.

Mine is the most current & correct one... It shows the majority of scientists are skeptical of global warming crisis!

http://www.academia.edu/18879451/97...re_skeptical_of_global_warming_crisis._FORBES

A Teetering Consensus: 97 New Papers

Amassed In 2018 Support A Skeptical Position

On Climate Alarm

By Kenneth Richard on 26. February 2018
The Science Unsettles

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Robertson and Chilingar, 2017


In just the first 8 weeks of 2018, 97 scientific papers have been published that cast doubt on the position that anthropogenic CO2 emissions function as the climate’s fundamental control knob!
or that otherwise serve to question the efficacy of climate models or the related “consensus” positions commonly endorsed by policymakers and mainstream media sources.
These 97 new papers affirm the position that there are significant limitations and uncertainties inherent in our understanding of climate and climate changes, emphasizing that climate science is not settled.



Not like you a king of BULSHIT! Not like you who demonized the climate scientists like Judith Curry without any evidences of flaw methodology in Judith Curry recently published article peer reviewed Climate studies . See your post...
Curry has a history of shoddy work and papers.
This one is no exception.
.

Look at how other people see through your bullshit... See below quote!!

Post 65


You are claiming you are 99.94% absolutely coorect


Look stupid,
we have clearly demonstrated that you do not understand what you are talking about, so don't go down that road again
You will just embarrass yourself further and continue to verify my position that you are a lying bullshit artist.
It is too easy to tear apart your description of the details for a simple reason. YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT.

So your blatant lies just make the already muddy waters surrounding climate change that much mirker.
Do you not understand how much damage you do to your cause?



By the way what grade ( Aka: Groogy) did you drop out of High School ?

PS I read and highlighted in bold ( see post# 201 & post# 202) in the post about the flaws on your peer reviewed article that you posted"

PPS . I understand science better then you whereas your the king of BULSHIT!!! All sputter no content.
 

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My post based on peer reviewed paper... Not like you a king of BULSHIT!
You copied and pasted a blog.
I posted links to two separate papers, which were peer reviewed and published their numbers.
Your blog post contained only opinions, and no data.

I'm not surprised you can't tell the difference between the two.
You couldn't even successfully tell a real Time Magazine cover from a fake one.
 

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You copied and pasted a blog.
I posted links to two separate papers, which were peer reviewed and published their numbers.
Your blog post contained only opinions, and no data.

I'm not surprised you can't tell the difference between the two.
You couldn't even successfully tell a real Time Magazine cover from a fake one.
In just the first 8 weeks of 2018, 97 scientific papers have been published that cast doubt on the position that anthropogenic CO2 emissions function as the climate’s fundamental control knob!
or that otherwise serve to question the efficacy of climate models or the related “consensus” positions commonly endorsed by policymakers and mainstream media sources.
These 97 new papers affirm the position that there are significant limitations and uncertainties inherent in our understanding of climate and climate changes, emphasizing that climate science is not settled.


And also

Your peer reviewed paper is by a fucking geologist !

geologist and writer James Lawrence Powell, claims that there is a 99.99% scientific consensus on Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). You might think that after all of the harsh criticism that the 2013 Cook et al. paper (C13) has received from climate contrarians that we would be pleased to embrace the results of a critique that claims we were far too conservative in assessing the consensus. While it certainly does make a nice change from the usual rants and overblown methodological nit-picks from the contrarians, Powell is wrong to claim such a very high degree of agreement.


PS . What a garbage peer reviewed paper! The government hand out those fund like crazy to support their agenda climate changes and the agenda of more tax aka more revenue tools like cap & trade to justify & support spending habits.


PPS More studies to refute the 97 % conscenus bullshit...

And according to a study of 1,868 scientists working in climate-related fields, conducted just this year by the PBL Netherlands Environment Assessment Agency, three in ten respondents said that less than half of global warming since 1951 could be attributed to human activity, or that they did not know.
http://www.pbl.nl/sites/default/fil...ence-survey-questions-and-responses_01731.pdf



Your peer reviewed paper ... It's methodology is flawed see post #201 # 202! Checkmate you lost loser!!


Here another one criticisms on AGW climate.

Courtland Adams et al. Sampling bias in climate–conflict research, Nature Climate Change (2018). DOI: 10.1038/s41558-018-0068-2
Abstract
Critics have argued that the evidence of an association between climate change and conflict is flawed because the research relies on a dependent variable sampling strategy. Similarly, it has been hypothesized that convenience of access biases the sample of cases studied (the 'streetlight effect'). This also gives rise to claims that the climate–conflict literature stigmatizes some places as being more 'naturally' violent. Yet there has been no proof of such sampling patterns. Here we test whether climate–conflict research is based on such a biased sample through a systematic review of the literature. We demonstrate that research on climate change and violent conflict suffers from a streetlight effect. Further, studies which focus on a small number of cases in particular are strongly informed by cases where there has been conflict, do not sample on the independent variables (climate impact or risk), and hence tend to find some association between these two variables. These biases mean that research on climate change and conflict primarily focuses on a few accessible regions, overstates the links between both phenomena and cannot explain peaceful outcomes from climate change. This could result in maladaptive responses in those places that are stigmatized as being inherently more prone to climate-induced violence.
 

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In just the first 8 weeks of 2018, 97 scientific papers have been published that cast doubt on the position that anthropogenic CO2 emissions function as the climate’s fundamental control knob!.
Provide a working link, as I expect like everything else you post, this claim is garbage.
 

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You are "permitted" any opinion you want and I'm allowed to call you out for your reliance on faith and refusal to accept the masses of scientific data.
I have certainly made no reference to faith
My opinion is neutral. It is valid and defensible & that drives you nuts
BTW according to post 201 the masses of scientific data has resulted in a fair a mount of skepticism.

the consensus was not even a result of a direct poll, rather one mans (biased) slotting of papers into categories he defined.
 

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I quoted the studies number off the top of my head with accuracy to one decimal point and then later when I used a link to the study I used the published 2 decimal points.
Your comments are ridiculous as this is totally acceptable.
Acceptable for propaganda maybe, but not for scientific work

Stating that they referred to 54,195 articles and linking to the study wasn't 'precise' enough for you?
You fail.
You did not answer the question
it was a test of your scientific understanding
A test you failed


They read 54,195 articles and based their findings on those papers, that's not an 'opinion poll', that is objectively judging the sum of published science on climate change.
Fail again.
According to post # 201 it was not even an opinion poll
The author categorized the papers based on his criteria and then stated the authors supported his concussion, all with out directly asking them
That is some serious misrepresentation



You are stating you do not believe the study saying that there is 99.94% consensus, you do not believe peer assessed scientific works and you do not think it important that about 54 thousand papers show your 'neutral' claims to be just weak assed climate change denial.
I have stated none of those things stupid
What part of neutral do you not understand?

Again 99.94%. You are using precision which you can not validate. STOP that !

I have stated that you do not understand what you promote as absolute
I have also stated that you are a pathological lair
 

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I have certainly made no reference to faith...
Yet your rejection of science leaves only that as a basis. You are simply a conspiracy theorist who chose a viewpoint and is desperately trying to poke holes in well supported science to justify your faith.

And the only scepticism is how much of an impact human CO2 is having, not whether it is.

BTW according to post 201
You mean the post that explicitly admits that only 1.8 reject AGW and only 2.4% somewhat reject it?
 

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Acceptable for propaganda maybe, but not for scientific work


You did not answer the question
it was a test of your scientific understanding
A test you failed




According to post # 201 it was not even an opinion poll
The author categorized the papers based on his criteria and then stated the authors supported his concussion, all with out directly asking them
That is some serious misrepresentation





I have stated none of those things stupid
What part of neutral do you not understand?

Again 99.94%. You are using precision which you can not validate. STOP that !

I have stated that you do not understand what you promote as absolute
I have also stated that you are a pathological lair
Your drooling on your keyboard again, larue.
I gave you accurate numbers and the studies to back them up and this is the best you can come up with?

You do realize that there are no actual points, evidence, science, facts or honest arguments in your post, don't you?
For someone who claims to have a science background you are unable to deal with basic facts and evidence.
 

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Your drooling on your keyboard again, larue.
I gave you accurate numbers and the studies to back them up and this is the best you can come up with?
Your study has a credibility problem
Actual numbers ???
According to post # 201 it was not even an opinion poll
The author categorized the papers based on his criteria and then stated the authors supported his concussion, all with out directly asking them
That is some serious misrepresentation



You do realize that there are no actual points, evidence, science, facts or honest arguments in your post, don't you?
How would you know?
You do not know how to calculate a weighted average or that carbon is an organic material
You would know a fact if it kicked you in the ass


For someone who claims to have a science background you are unable to deal with basic facts and evidence.
Look stupid, I have forgotten more science than you will ever know, let alone understand
You are a lying , mis-representing bullshit artist, who does not have the first clue about scientific matters
 

Frankfooter

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Your study has a credibility problem
Actual numbers ???
According to post # 201 it was not even an opinion poll
Post #201 was a pornaddict copy and paste.
I thought you were better then that and claimed you could tell real science from junk.
Pornaddict couldn't even tell a faked Time Magazine cover from a real one, and if you spend more then 2 minutes on any of his posts you'll find the same issues.
Post #201 is typical, its a blog post that posts an opinion piece as if it were science or a legit report, the difference being that pornaddicts blog doesn't give accurate numbers or sources, nor has it been peer reviewed to back up its claims.
That blog post is as 'scientific' as your insult laden rants here.
 
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