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Kissing - how safe is it?

Parker@TDL

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Herpes is the most obvious risk, but you can only catch it from an open wound, such as a cold sore or if they have it in their throat. Close to 90% of people carry the Herpes virus, mainly the cold sore type, so it's not uncommon to catch that.
That is not true. The herpes virus still sheds even if there are no sores. It doesn't shed constantly, but when it does it is contagious. Many people have it and never have symptoms. Unfortunately, they can still spread it through viral shedding. No wonder the majority of the population has it!!
 

Parker@TDL

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OMG !!!! FINALLY someone that care about it !!!!
My rule is no fluid exchange... Saliva's a fluid.. In my opinion based on the fact that I did research before starting in that industry) , every exchange of fluid is a risk .. 1/3 person have Herpes .. How many clients do we ( Providers) see in a day !
As my website in clearly mentioning , I am not allowing any fluids exchange ... No bbbj , no bbfs , no daty without dental dam ( I started a thread about that) , no Dfk ..
My life worth more then 180$ ( the rate of a session) ... I would NEVER jeopardize my health for money..

When I was woking at spas , I seen a girl rinsing her mouth with listerine between her sessions , when I asked her why , she told me that it kills std when she's offering bbbj ... SERIOUSLY !!! Think of it guys .. You go see a provider , she just did bbbj and then 10 min later you are kissing her ... BERK !!!

I am glad to see that some people care on this board ..
Sometimes I wonder if it is still some hobbyist that still care about their health...
Listerine antiseptic does actually kill herpes. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7614202/
It also limits the risk of gonorrhea taking hold in one's throat.
 

blondefan

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before i got into this hobby i re-educated myself and do things based on my comfort level and don't go beyond the restrictions my wife and I agreed on.
We also get tested regularly. I prefer a more sensual experience so most of the time DFK is a must for me. If it was all about getting to the main event I'm not sure I even would be in this hobby.
It is also why some of my best experiences were with an MA with just a regular MA release. Going with an SP and being able to do more doesn't guarantee a better time (although i have had great experiences with SPs as well).
 

Alison_xox

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Listerine antiseptic does actually kill herpes. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7614202/
It also limits the risk of gonorrhea taking hold in one's throat.
It doesn't kill all std that could be transmitted from saliva so in my humble opinion , Listerine is not a protection against std...
But for the ones that are going for that service it is a great link since it does lower the risk for some contamination.
Personally we do provide Listerine to all of our clients at our location , but is is more a matter of good breath for us. It is always pleasant for providers and customers when everyone smells good ;)

Here's a link of many diseases that could be transmitted by kissing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ed7ES5LBQk
Here's an other one : https://www.std-gov.org/blog/can-get-std-kissing/#can-you-get-an-std-from-kissing

Also it is important to remember here that the statistics are not based on providers so as providers we have to take in consideration that we are having way more partners then a regular person so the risks are way up. For the clients too because when you are "sleeping" with someone it is like you slept with all her previous partners in terms of contamination so it is the same for all fluids exchange ( including kissing).. I am sorry I know it is raw to read , but as I was saying in my previous comment , it is a very sensitive topic... I am trying to be gentle and to keep to the facts here so I hope nobody will hate me for that ...

As many people said in this thread , the best is to get tested often and to be confortable with your decision once you get all the informations in your hands..
 
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OnTheWayOut

Fair enough, agreed, anything can be intimate between 2 people I guess, whatever floats your boat.

I don't have experience of the industry before porn was mainstream (25-30 years or so); so I guess we're going to have different interests and turn-ons based on generational gaps.
WTF? Did you just call me old? Oh yeah, I AM old ..... sometimes forget that! :peace:
 
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OnTheWayOut

Ok. I am going to admit my ignorance on this but WTF is the difference between DFK and LFK?

Like how do you lightly French kiss? Your tongue only goes in the mouth but not past the teeth? I mean I get LK. That is just pecks here and there but I don't understand the difference between DFK and LFK.

Maybe because I love French kissing so it is all the same to me, I don't know but I always wondered what is the difference?
Thank you. While i have come to understand what people mean when they use these terms, I agree that LFK is highly irrational and probably impossible. Maybe LFK could be a tongue tickling tease? That could only apply if the tongues stay out of each other's mouth. Fuck, this is getting too painful to think about.
 

Parker@TDL

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It doesn't kill all std that could be transmitted from saliva so in my humble opinion , Listerine is not a protection against std...
But for the ones that are going for that service it is a great link since it does lower the risk for some contamination.
Personally we do provide Listerine to all of our clients at our location , but is is more a matter of good breath for us. It is always pleasant for providers and customers when everyone smells good ;)

Here's a link of many diseases that could be transmitted by kissing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ed7ES5LBQk
Here's an other one : https://www.std-gov.org/blog/can-get-std-kissing/#can-you-get-an-std-from-kissing

Also it is important to remember here that the statistics are not based on providers so as providers we have to take in consideration that we are having way more partners then a regular person so the risks are way up. For the clients too because when you are "sleeping" with someone it is like you slept with all her previous partners in terms of contamination so it is the same for all fluids exchange ( including kissing).. I am sorry I know it is raw to read , but as I was saying in my previous comment , it is a very sensitive topic... I am trying to be gentle and to keep to the facts here so I hope nobody will hate me for that ...

As many people said in this thread , the best is to get tested often and to be confortable with your decision once you get all the informations in your hands..
I wasn't saying it protects against all STDs, just that it helps protect against the main one spread through kissing. So for the providers that offer kissing, and bbbj, it is a good idea to be using Listerine antiseptic after sessions.
 
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OnTheWayOut

I wasn't saying it protects against all STDs, just that it helps protect against the main one spread through kissing. So for the providers that offer kissing, and bbbj, it is a good idea to be using Listerine antiseptic after sessions.
If it means I'll get more bbbj, I'll volunteer to a Listerene bath for my pecker! Just make sure I don't shave my nuts that day.

Hmmmm, I often take a small gift for the SP, perhaps I should get a case of Listerene and give a gift that really is useful! Thx for that info.
 

Alison_xox

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I wasn't saying it protects against all STDs, just that it helps protect against the main one spread through kissing. So for the providers that offer kissing, and bbbj, it is a good idea to be using Listerine antiseptic after sessions.
Yes I understood what you meant .. It is a very great link :)
 

Parker@TDL

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If it means I'll get more bbbj, I'll volunteer to a Listerene bath for my pecker! Just make sure I don't shave my nuts that day.

Hmmmm, I often take a small gift for the SP, perhaps I should get a case of Listerene and give a gift that really is useful! Thx for that info.
Lololol!!! She'll be head over heals, then on her knees going to town in no time!!
 

Alison_xox

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Oh well I feel like we said everything about it.. It was a very interesting subject . Who's starting a new thread about a very interesting subject ?
Happy_time ? Slurp ? Someone ?
 

Jasmine Raine

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Oh well I feel like we said everything about it.. It was a very interesting subject . Who's starting a new thread about a very interesting subject ?
Happy_time ? Slurp ? Someone ?
Ottawa is getting some good discussions goings. That is for sure.

I am happy to know I am not a total idiot regarding the LFK. Hahahha
 

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I know right ! I am kinda addicted to Terb lately ...
I know , I need entertainment in my life .. Don't judge me ;P
No judgement!! It can be a lot of fun on here!!
 

JohnnyFever

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I'd say DFK is when your tongue goes digging in the mouth of your partner and/or vice-versa. LFK is more than just pecking, it's caressing of the lips with each other, lasts seconds, rather than tenths of a second. Tongue is not necessarily involved in LFK, but if it is, tongues will stick out and meet outside the mouth rather than inside. It sounds more mechanical when it's described like this, but obviously the actual execution is much more flowing and intimate.
That's interesting. I guess what I experienced recently falls into the LFK category then. Doesn't seem much safer than DFK really. I was never much into tongue swapping anyway.
 

Jasmine Raine

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I know right ! I am kinda addicted to Terb lately ...
I know , I need entertainment in my life .. Don't judge me ;P
Off topic for this thread and Ottawa, but it is a lounge type topic that might entertain some,

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...der-What-are-my-options&p=6105982#post6105982

You Ottawa folks need to hit the lounge more I think. There are some good opinions in this section, the lounge could do well from hearing some of them.

Ok, back to the topic now......

I am still confused on the LFK and DFK. I have never thought of DFK as porn style. I don't know, for me kissing is important. I don't want a session without it. It should be fun, playful, not too dry, not too wet, there should be tongues, but not jamming style dueling in the mouth.

After careful reflection, I guess that kissing really does have a Goldilocks type spot. That is where I sit. So I am happily renaming the acronym for myself. The GFK - Goldilocks French Kissing. That is the spot I want to be at. LOL
 
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