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Before everyone get their panties in a knot, Ernie Eves admitted on talk radio that every, yes every incoming government performs an audit on the out going government accounting practices to ensure the books are up to snuff.

This is SOP.
 

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Audit great!

Ford in office, not so much.

Wynne in office, not so much.

Which is better? Neither, both fucking suck. I don't trust either, but I distrust Ford just a smidge more.

I will officially vote for none.

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Calling for an audit is a fair bit away from calling to lock her up.
 

oldjones

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Calling for an audit is a fair bit away from calling to lock her up.
However he didn't just call for an audit [there already was the SOP one by the Auditor-General, who didn't like the accounting used, but couldn't say anything worse than that].

“If Kathleen Wynne tried to pull these kinds of shady tricks in private life, then there would be a few more Liberals joining David Livingston in jail,' Ford said." [from the OP, my emphasis] Surely you're not suggesting Doug thinks only her underlings did bad things they should be jailed for. It was 'lock her up', plain as day.

Unlike the Auditor-General, who answers to the Leg, Doug's threat includes picking his own auditor beholden to him and his PCs. Like that'll boost confidence the province's government is in honest hands, and that any prosecution would be unbiased and fair.

In any case 'these shady tricks' were by a guy who worked for someone else on stuff Wynne wasn't directly connected to
 

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I don't think Doug Ford is much of an expert in accounting, nor could the general public understand what's wrong with the accounting practices of the Liberals even if Doug could explain it to them. He doesn't need to to go into this issue to win the election, so he should just stick to the issues that are winners, like explosive public debt, mismanagement of energy policy, anti-investment tax policy and other red tape, etc.

In this respect - focusing on a low-return technical issue - he's no Trump.
 

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elmo

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We are already into it for a couple of generations after granny. She has so completely fucked this province for decades it's unbelievable.
 

elmo

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No. I'm pointing out the idiotic hypocrisy that comes out of Ford mouth and gets swallowed up by people like you.

You might not realize but a forensic audit for a budget the size of the province will cost a lot of money and (unless you believe the conspiracy theories - which you do) will provide absolutely zero benefit to taxpayers. But sure, "saving" taxpayers money by spending a chunk on a ridiculous attempt to copy Trump sounds good.
Actually there will be a benefit. It would be good to see just how bad things really are, not what the government is reporting. This will at least give us a a real starting point. I'm guessing it's way worse than granny says...the Auditor General of Ontario agrees as it seems the Libs feel only they can define what does and does not fit within generally accepted accounting principles.
 

oldjones

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We are already into it for a couple of generations after granny. She has so completely fucked this province for decades it's unbelievable.
Not to worry, we're still digging out from Harris and Rae, we'll never notice. But Ford …
 

Orion1027

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Not to worry, we're still digging out from Harris and Rae, we'll never notice. But Ford …
Oh please spare us!!! After 15 years of these liberal cretins you and others have the balls to bring up Harris after what they’ve done to this province? If you want to talk about graft, let’s talk about the 750 million dollar wind contract given to Mike Crawley, months after he resigned as liberal party president? Not a peep about that, and that was on Wynne’s watch. Ontario will suffer the scars of the liberals for the next 30 years! Bring in the auditors, or better yet simply have Bonnie Lysik conduct the audit and see what comes out!
 

Frankfooter

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Oh please spare us!!! After 15 years of these liberal cretins you and others have the balls to bring up Harris after what they’ve done to this province? If you want to talk about graft, let’s talk about the 750 million dollar wind contract given to Mike Crawley, months after he resigned as liberal party president? Not a peep about that, and that was on Wynne’s watch. Ontario will suffer the scars of the liberals for the next 30 years! Bring in the auditors, or better yet simply have Bonnie Lysik conduct the audit and see what comes out!
The auditors should be out there for whatever party is in power.
At least Wynne is only accused of poor policy, not scandal like the crackhead Ford family you want to bring back in.
The Ford $3 billion subway stop is as bad a policy as anything you accuse Wynne of, he'll be now better and probably Trump like worse.
 

basketcase

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You just want Wynne to get away with all this recklessness with our money.....
So you bought the bullshit hook, line, and sinker.

The Liberals spent money for what they believe is good for the province. You may not like it but that is not evidence of some kind of crime.
 

basketcase

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You don't think a chief of staff of the Premeir being convicted is enough to warrant a looksee?

I guess Trump is innocent in your eyes.....
No. The charges have absolutely nothing to with things that may be discovered by a forensic audit.
 

basketcase

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Actually there will be a benefit. It would be good to see just how bad things really are, not what the government is reporting. ...
That's not what a forensic audit does. Every government audits the books to see where they are starting but Ford is suggesting an investigation into criminal behaviour despite there being absolutely nothing there to warrant it other than he saw the tactic work down south.
 

Orion1027

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The auditors should be out there for whatever party is in power.
At least Wynne is only accused of poor policy, not scandal like the crackhead Ford family you want to bring back in.
The Ford $3 billion subway stop is as bad a policy as anything you accuse Wynne of, he'll be now better and probably Trump like worse.
Keep deluding yourself. Remember the NEW COUNCIL and WYNNE both signed off on the subway AFTER both Doug left. Unfortunately you’re either obtuse or just cranially thick to understand.
 

Boober69

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The hyperbole flies thick and fast, Ontario isn't even close to being the biggest sub-sovereign debtor in the world. There are three neighbouring American States that are in worse condition financially...not to mention Greece and Italy.

I will concede that Wynne is a bad Premiere, in fact all three Liberal Premiers have been horrendous. Ford is like Tony Soprano, everything he touches turns to shit. If he becomes Premier we can celebrate on his turf. Just wear cheap clothing.
ummm....Greece and Italy are sovereign nations. Ontario's debt is twice that of California's.
Care to share facts about which states you are referring to as having a greater debt than Ontario?
 
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