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Dfk how to initiate with SP...maybe someone has the magic answer

FearlessFreep

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In keeping with the recent how to threads, thought I would just ask. I would prefer sex with dfk, but mostly it is just not to be. Sessions with kissing are always so much passionate and enjoyable. Sessions without are also good but all about the happy ending without any of the prima lheat.

Here's the problem...if it isn't offered by the Sp, I don't initiate. I get the message, and I'm a respectful non pushy type of client.

So... how do you, those that frequently get Dfk, manage this feat. I'm sure you run into the same challenges.
I actually find this much easier in civilian life with a much higher success rate. Help me step up my hobby game?
 

KaaliaBlack

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Asking is always a good place to start. But don't be put off if it's not on her menu or she doesn't want to discuss things explicitly. Due to current laws, it can actually be problematic to have a menu listed.

The other option is to treat it like you would a civilian encounter: Sensual neck kissing and then trying for a kiss, or eye-gazing leading to a kiss.

If a provider is really not into it, they'll let you know. But sometimes we also need cues form you. For example: I had a client whom I could tell was holding back. So I took a chance and lightly bit his lower lip. He then turned to putty, and things got infinitely better from there.
 

wigglee

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simply ask her before you hand her the cash whether she will kiss you . If she says yes, hold her to it and if she says no, walk.
 

massman

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I guess I’ve been around long enough and kissed enough girls not to find this an issue. Pretty much you have to do the same as if you were kissing a non sp girl for the first time. lean in for a kiss, if she does the same, you are golden. If she turns away, presenting her cheek instead, then she might not be into kissing. But if you are uncertain, the old “do you mind if I kiss you” should work pretty good. Once you have lip contact then you need to pay attention to her signals and actions. To see if she just prefers pecks on the lips, versus more dfk stuff. Hopefully she will take the lead

Pretty much the same approach as if you were on a date. Strange as it may seem, if you treat escorts like the “real” women they are, things usually work out. The cool thing is, an escort will be a lot more open to a few respectfully asked questions prior to or at the beginning of the appointment. You could say “kissing (passionate kissing, French kissing etc) is a real turn on for me. Are you cool with that?” In a date situation that might seem a little weird.
 

HelloMsDoll

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You can also make it sexy...Like your lips are so pretty I would love to kiss them, would you like that? Then start gentle and slow, always gentle and slow. As things heat up she should let you know if she is good for more.
 

Parker@TDL

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In keeping with the recent how to threads, thought I would just ask. I would prefer sex with dfk, but mostly it is just not to be. Sessions with kissing are always so much passionate and enjoyable. Sessions without are also good but all about the happy ending without any of the prima lheat.

Here's the problem...if it isn't offered by the Sp, I don't initiate. I get the message, and I'm a respectful non pushy type of client.

So... how do you, those that frequently get Dfk, manage this feat. I'm sure you run into the same challenges.
I actually find this much easier in civilian life with a much higher success rate. Help me step up my hobby game?
Firstly, if you don't have good oral hygiene you won't get dfk...even from providers that do dfk. So make sure you're fresh and clean before you arrive, then use the mouthwash provided on top of that. If you have that aspect settled, then you should simply ask if dfk is on the menu. Even if it feels awkward asking, the moment will shortly pass. I think if you're having trouble navigating to dfk, asking is the easiest way to get there:encouragement:
 

Jasmina

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Dont listen to this guy. Ask before you book. And like one lady said above, initiate with lfk, kiss her neck, caress her, give her the cues that you like it passionate. And use the mouthwash in the bathroom before hand.

simply ask her before you hand her the cash whether she will kiss you . If she says yes, hold her to it and if she says no, walk.
 

NiceToMeetYou

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Starting with gentle and LFK first while your hand is rubbing her pussy gently before inserting your finger inside her pussy. At this point, she warms up nicely after you suck her nipple gently while rubbing her pussy and fingering her pussy. At this point, you can proceed with DFK gently first and later on the full blown DFK especially in the missionary and cowgirl positions. These techniques work well with me most of the time.

However, if you read a couple reviews of her saying that she doesn't do kissing and DFK at all, don't bother to book with her and move on to other girls. There are plenty of fish as the old saying.
 

K Douglas

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Can't explain. I just go with the flow.
 

koreanjames

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OP listen to this advice. It’s gold.

I guess I’ve been around long enough and kissed enough girls not to find this an issue. Pretty much you have to do the same as if you were kissing a non sp girl for the first time. lean in for a kiss, if she does the same, you are golden. If she turns away, presenting her cheek instead, then she might not be into kissing. But if you are uncertain, the old “do you mind if I kiss you” should work pretty good. Once you have lip contact then you need to pay attention to her signals and actions. To see if she just prefers pecks on the lips, versus more dfk stuff. Hopefully she will take the lead

Pretty much the same approach as if you were on a date. Strange as it may seem, if you treat escorts like the “real” women they are, things usually work out. The cool thing is, an escort will be a lot more open to a few respectfully asked questions prior to or at the beginning of the appointment. You could say “kissing (passionate kissing, French kissing etc) is a real turn on for me. Are you cool with that?” In a date situation that might seem a little weird.
If you were on a date and your date had bad breath, food in her teeth, didn’t seem hygenic (etc) and leaned into kiss you, you’d likely turn your head and/or keep mouth closed. Otherwise you’d have no problem with giving a girl DFK...

I’d imagine the exact same thing applies on the other side of the fence, regardles if she’s an SP or civie. Personally I just go with the flow, dfk is something I’d never ask before hand, “asking” id assume it would make a season awkward and mechanical. The most important I believe is to pay attention to a ladies cues, If your chemistry (and timing) is in sync then it won’t be ridiculous amounts of slobbering where the dfk is totally out of sync... which just killls the vibe.
 

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...I would prefer sex with dfk, but mostly it is just not to be. Sessions with kissing are always so much passionate and enjoyable...how do you, those that frequently get Dfk, manage this feat.
I typically confirm during the introduction/booking process whether or not a lady is comfortable with DFK or at the very least, LFK, given great hygiene on my part of course. To me, a session without DFK or LFK is not worth it. Once she confirms I will book.
 

Butler1000

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Um........

Didn't you learn how to get to first base in junior high?
 

massman

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Um........

Didn't you learn how to get to first base in junior high?
+1 I thought, then I thought...

I need to keep in mind some guys are seeing escorts because they are painfully shy or awkward around women, and may not have had a lot of experience.
 

JANE WAY

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I love DFK, but some folks pull a Pretty Woman, some can take it or leave it.
From an SP perspective, I usually initiate it with all my clients, unless I’m getting the vibe that they’re not into it. I will always default to asking! Asking can be sexy, and lead to the passions of LFK DFK you’re hoping for!
I think it’s so sexy to look a man in the eyes with a coy grin on my face and ask, “Can I kiss you?” and go from there.
 

FearlessFreep

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Um........

Didn't you learn how to get to first base in junior high?
Never had much game back then, or high school for that matter. Lots of regrets, missed opportunities. Didn't hit my stride until university.

Who are you seeing that doesn't offer DFK? It's pretty standard for GFE. Since some clients are shy I will ask them if there's anything they like and don't like, most are too chicken to say anything so they just say "I dunno everything i guess" so then I just take the lead and guide them. Maybe you shouldn't see ladies who don't offer it or are very young/shy/inexperienced. It's common for a good connection and GFE at least.
I have researched reviews, read the great comments that mention dfk or lk, booked on that and a few other interests. But, when the door opens, smiles and greetings are exchanged, the hug comes but no kiss light or whatever. Cheek to cheek sends the message and I take my cue from that.

You can also make it sexy...Like your lips are so pretty I would love to kiss them, would you like that? Then start gentle and slow, always gentle and slow. As things heat up she should let you know if she is good for more.
This I like and will certainly try...in both worlds. Thanks.

I guess I’ve been around long enough and kissed enough girls not to find this an issue. Pretty much you have to do the same as if you were kissing a non sp girl for the first time. lean in for a kiss, if she does the same, you are golden. If she turns away, presenting her cheek instead, then she might not be into kissing. But if you are uncertain, the old “do you mind if I kiss you” should work pretty good. Once you have lip contact then you need to pay attention to her signals and actions. To see if she just prefers pecks on the lips, versus more dfk stuff. Hopefully she will take the lead

Pretty much the same approach as if you were on a date. Strange as it may seem, if you treat escorts like the “real” women they are, things usually work out. The cool thing is, an escort will be a lot more open to a few respectfully asked questions prior to or at the beginning of the appointment. You could say “kissing (passionate kissing, French kissing etc) is a real turn on for me. Are you cool with that?” In a date situation that might seem a little weird.
I find the artificial environment dosen't fit with the real situation. Earth and Mars.

I love DFK, but some folks pull a Pretty Woman, some can take it or leave it.
From an SP perspective, I usually initiate it with all my clients, unless I’m getting the vibe that they’re not into it. I will always default to asking! Asking can be sexy, and lead to the passions of LFK DFK you’re hoping for!
I think it’s so sexy to look a man in the eyes with a coy grin on my face and ask, “Can I kiss you?” and go from there.
This is something that could really help. Maybe...

Thanks all, hard to talk about this in my world.
 

massman

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I find the artificial environment dosen't fit with the real situation. Earth and Mars
You are right, you have to be in the right headspace to “pretend” it’s a real date. I think then your best approach is to verbalize what you like. As you do the mini meet and greet, usually sitting on the bed, couch making small talk, as she hints to start to play (caressing your arm, leg etc....) you could say “do you mind if I kiss you? It’s really one of my favourite things, and it’s been a while since I had a great makeout session” or as suggested above compliment her gorgeous lips and say I’d love to kiss you” or look her in the eyes and ask.

Communicating that this is important before the session will also help a great deal. Most escorts are good at reading a situation/ body language and can gradually figure out what a guy likes, but some guys are more reserved, slightly awkward that make those signals hard to read. The nervousness that is normal in an escort encounter can further interfer with picking up the usual unspoken human cues. She may even sense your nervousness around kissing as you avoiding it, possible because you aren’t into it. If non verbal communication is not working, the go to verbal, but if you give a heads up before the session it breaks the ice so to speak. I used to have a lot of trouble verbalizing what I wanted in a session with regard to specific requests as this seemed awkward, but found it easier to do this if I’d informes her before the meet.

Maybe I’ve been lucky, maybe I’ve chosen well, but 90% of the girls I’ve seen have been into dfk with me, and many seem to love a great high school style makeout session as much as me, and gets them really warmed up for the main event.

Of course all of this assumes good-great oral hygiene, aren’t scraping her face / neck with sharp stubble and that you are treating her respectfully. You find tho two worlds different, but they aren’t so. If you can act like a good guy, gentleman like you have on regular dates, again, treating her like the “real” woman that she is, you’ll do well. Most escorts (especially the ones well regarded on this site) are normal people, often exceptionally sensitive and caring people, who do derive satisfaction out of doing a good job and making their customers happy. The only difference is that they do sex work, something that is marginalized by mainstream society.
 
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