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Is DFK standard in romantic relationships?

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The OP hasn't mentioned if the GF is into DFK or if he tried to initiate. He'll never know until he tries or asks. Even if she's not into DFK, that's hardly a sign that they are not sexually compatible. DFK or any other acronyms are trivial things to focus on in the scope of a relationship. He's free of course to nitpick, but be prepared to be on the receiving end of that.
Of course it's a two way street. If a woman likes X and guy's not into it, she shouldn't stick with it either. I'm not trying to trivialize it down to acronyms but in a broad sense sex life is important and needs to be good for both. If someone is open, great. If not, just remember that's how it will be for the length of the relationship.
 

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Of course it's a two way street. If a woman likes X and guy's not into it, she shouldn't stick with it either. I'm not trying to trivialize it down to acronyms but in a broad sense sex life is important and needs to be good for both. If someone is open, great. If not, just remember that's how it will be for the length of the relationship.
Who knows how is sex life is going to be because it sounds like he's hung up on one small thing. Does lack of one specific thing really ruin your sex life if everything else is great? IMO you should not be in a relationship if small things like this bother you. You're going to be dealing with much bigger issues in a serious relationship especially if you want kids.
 

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Who knows how is sex life is going to be because it sounds like he's hung up on one small thing. Does lack of one specific thing really ruin your sex life if everything else is great? IMO you should not be in a relationship if small things like this bother you. You're going to be dealing with much bigger issues in a serious relationship especially if you want kids.
Very true. But sex is generally an important part of any relationship. It may not be absolutely ideal or perfect, but it has to be enjoyable to the point that both people are satisfied. How many threads are on here about guys who love their wives but the sex life is in the toilet? How many SP's have clients who love their wives but don't enjoy the sex? How many relationships fail because of sexual incompatibility?

And please don't think I presume sex is everything. I wouldn't condone entering a relationship where most other things are a fail but the sex is fabulous. That too will be a recipe for disaster. All relationships require some give and take, some compromise, some sacrifice. You have to decide at some point if it's worth continuing or not based on whatever your criteria is and if your partner gets a satisfactory number of checkmarks. Some items will be mandatory, some will be nice-to-haves, and some will never happen. I also don't condone entering into a relationship where one thinks the first solution will be "external" help. If I meet a girl and she's not into DFK and I really like and want that, I don't think the right attitude is "OK, I'll live with that and see an SP or other lady on the side".
 

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Guys whose only long term relationships have been with their left or right hands should not be giving relationship advice.
 

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Very true. But sex is generally an important part of any relationship. It may not be absolutely ideal or perfect, but it has to be enjoyable to the point that both people are satisfied. How many threads are on here about guys who love their wives but the sex life is in the toilet? How many SP's have clients who love their wives but don't enjoy the sex? How many relationships fail because of sexual incompatibility?

And please don't think I presume sex is everything. I wouldn't condone entering a relationship where most other things are a fail but the sex is fabulous. That too will be a recipe for disaster. All relationships require some give and take, some compromise, some sacrifice. You have to decide at some point if it's worth continuing or not based on whatever your criteria is and if your partner gets a satisfactory number of checkmarks. Some items will be mandatory, some will be nice-to-haves, and some will never happen. I also don't condone entering into a relationship where one thinks the first solution will be "external" help. If I meet a girl and she's not into DFK and I really like and want that, I don't think the right attitude is "OK, I'll live with that and see an SP or other lady on the side".
Makes no difference if I presumed that you think sex is everything. Did you forget what kind of board this is?

DFK or any other acronyms are a small part of a fulfilling sex life. Again, let's assume that everything in his relationship is great including sex, but DFK is the only thing lacking. Why would you throw away a great relationship (including a great sex life) that you've invested so much energy into?

Can the OP even tell the difference between DFK and LFK assuming the GF is still a great kisser? Is the OP going to get a measuring tape to make sure he's actually getting DFK?
 

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Makes no difference if I presumed that you think sex is everything. Did you forget what kind of board this is?

DFK or any other acronyms are a small part of a fulfilling sex life. Again, let's assume that everything in his relationship is great including sex, but DFK is the only thing lacking. Why would you throw away a great relationship (including a great sex life) that you've invested so much energy into?

Can the OP even tell the difference between DFK and LFK assuming the GF is still a great kisser? Is the OP going to get a measuring tape to make sure he's actually getting DFK?
Actually the OP would know after having sex a few times with her if DFK was in the running . Why would he continue with a relationship if it wasn't . What energy or great amount of time would be invested . Now you're saying a great sex life . That's open to what a person interprets a great sex life would be. No DFK to some might be a bummer .

DFK might mean nothing to some but to others it can be a big deal . Just because some people may not have an interest doesn't mean everyone is the same way .

Saying getting a measuring tape is just plain stupid . Some guys like cum in mouth and swallow. Is the guy going to ask the lady to open her mouth to make sure that she really does swallow everything and not hold back.
 

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I have never in my life been in a serious romantic relationship before so I'm wondering from all of the people who are or have been in a romantic relationship before if DFK is standard in romantic relationships? I'm asking because I have seen MPA's , SPs , and Strippers who I have been intensely passionate about would only LFK me but not DFK. I use to see one MPA regularly where she said she does not like DFK because she personally thought it was disgusting getting saliva transferred into her mouth from another person which I thought that was her excuse for DFK being too intimate for her and/or maybe it's because I am not in a dating relationship with her. I have also seen other MPA's multiple times where I feel that I have developed a comfortable client/MPA relationship with them in the room and whenever I would initiate DFK they would act nonreciprocal and I think it's because I am not their SO. So I was wondering if DFK usually happens when you are hooking up with civilians and if you are with your romantic partner? Or do some women generally feel that's it's disgusting regardless if it's a client/SP relationship or a romantic one?
DFK translate it to sticking your tongue in to touch their tonsils. Basically not what I would call a " romantic" moment. How you kiss should please both partners. If it does, then the rest follows as natural progression. If you are doing it right, your partner will continue, as it will stimulate her for wanting more, then just a kiss. But it tales two willing mouths, in order for those nerve endings to release those desires. If you just finished a long sex session, try that kiss again. If it is being done right, you will feel that desire, trying to make a come back. I sometimes think people get confused between DFK, and just good passionate kissing.
 

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Actually the OP would know after having sex a few times with her if DFK was in the running . Why would he continue with a relationship if it wasn't . What energy or great amount of time would be invested . Now you're saying a great sex life . That's open to what a person interprets a great sex life would be. No DFK to some might be a bummer .

DFK might mean nothing to some but to others it can be a big deal . Just because some people may not have an interest doesn't mean everyone is the same way .

Saying getting a measuring tape is just plain stupid . Some guys like cum in mouth and swallow. Is the guy going to ask the lady to open her mouth to make sure that she really does swallow everything and not hold back.
I was being a smart ass with the measuring tape comment, but that further underlines how silly it is to focus on a very specific thing in a relationship. Do guys honestly think about (and can they tell) how deep they can get their tongue into a girl's mouth during the act? Kissing is deeply personal and there's numerous ways of doing it. Everyone does it differently and even the same person will do it differently. It's not like anal, CIM, facial, etc. where there's only one way to do it.

Again, if acronyms are so important then you should think if a serious relationship is actually for you. If you have a great relationship, but must have that one specific thing then you're already on the right board. Of course sex is important in any relationship, but that's not the only reason you get into one.
 

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DFK translate it to sticking your tongue in to touch their tonsils. Basically not what I would call a " romantic" moment. How you kiss should please both partners. If it does, then the rest follows as natural progression. If you are doing it right, your partner will continue, as it will stimulate her for wanting more, then just a kiss. But it tales two willing mouths, in order for those nerve endings to release those desires. If you just finished a long sex session, try that kiss again. If it is being done right, you will feel that desire, trying to make a come back. I sometimes think people get confused between DFK, and just good passionate kissing.
Exactly. Kissing and sex are not technical things you can measure in a relationship. Just enjoy them in the moment.
 

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Actually the OP would know after having sex a few times with her if DFK was in the running . Why would he continue with a relationship if it wasn't . What energy or great amount of time would be invested . Now you're saying a great sex life . That's open to what a person interprets a great sex life would be. No DFK to some might be a bummer .

DFK might mean nothing to some but to others it can be a big deal . Just because some people may not have an interest doesn't mean everyone is the same way .

Saying getting a measuring tape is just plain stupid . Some guys like cum in mouth and swallow. Is the guy going to ask the lady to open her mouth to make sure that she really does swallow everything and not hold back.
Thanks bud - pretty much what I was thinking in responding to explorer.

I was being a smart ass with the measuring tape comment, but that further underlines how silly it is to focus on a very specific thing in a relationship. Do guys honestly think about (and can they tell) how deep they can get their tongue into a girl's mouth during the act? Kissing is deeply personal and there's numerous ways of doing it. Everyone does it differently and even the same person will do it differently. It's not like anal, CIM, facial, etc. where there's only one way to do it.

Again, if acronyms are so important then you should think if a serious relationship is actually for you. If you have a great relationship, but must have that one specific thing then you're already on the right board. Of course sex is important in any relationship, but that's not the only reason you get into one.
You've missed my point which John has indicated - it's about what is important to you and will make you feel fulfilled. At what point does one decide to end a relationship and for what reason? Could be a single factor or multiple factors. I not saying it would be wise to end a relationship solely because of a lack of DFK if everything else is basically perfect - most people will agree it's not worth it. But if a number of factors are iffy and you really like DFK and aren't getting any, why stick around, especially if it's in the early stages?

I don't think you should measure the entire extent of your sexual relationship based on the first encounter. Probably need a few. But if it doesn't seem to be working for whatever reason, no point in continuing. It's like dating someone and discovering they are an alcoholic. Do you decide to stay and hope it'll pass or cut your losses? If you stay, you're basically agreeing to a life of AA meetings, no alcohol present in your home, constant wondering/worrying, etc. I'm using alcohol as an example and there are many people who have recovered and have no issues but still, if you know early on, do you just go with it? Some won't and I think that's understandable.

You think it's about acronyms. It isn't. If I meet a girl and she isn't into something sexually, I can always make the choice that I'm okay with it. What I won't do is continue with the relationship if I'm not okay and then use SP's or other women as a solution which is what is generally being applied as an acceptable solution.
 

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I not saying it would be wise to end a relationship solely because of a lack of DFK if everything else is basically perfect - most people will agree it's not worth it. But if a number of factors are iffy and you really like DFK and aren't getting any, why stick around, especially if it's in the early stages?
This is exactly the point I made earlier. Finding a good relationship is tough enough these days so why end one just for lack of DFK. I agree that if there are a number of negatives in a relationship then you should think about ending it, but lack of DFK will be the least of your concerns.

You think it's about acronyms. It isn't. If I meet a girl and she isn't into something sexually, I can always make the choice that I'm okay with it. What I won't do is continue with the relationship if I'm not okay and then use SP's or other women as a solution which is what is generally being applied as an acceptable solution.
I also made this point earlier that it isn't all about acronyms in a relationship. Relationships are about so much more. If specific acronyms and sex are so important then stay single and stick with escorts. Perfectly good choice and many people do that. Why get into a messy situation by getting involved in a serious relationship?

I also find it hilarious that you are not okay with guys seeing SP's while in a relationship because that is why this board exists. As if you have never seen a SP while in a relationship.
 

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I also find it hilarious that you are not okay with guys seeing SP's while in a relationship because that is why this board exists. As if you have never seen a SP while in a relationship.
I have not. Perhaps I'm in the minority. But again, you are missing my point. I have no issue with a person who enters into a relationship in good faith, it goes downhill, and as a result he sees an SP because he is in a loveless, sexless marriage and he's tried to fix it to no avail. I don't think any good relationship starts with the notion of straying to solve any issues.

Let's choose Greek instead of DFK. You really enjoy Greek and your new GF indicates she doesn't like Greek and doesn't plan on changing her mind in the next 50 years. If your sexual satisfaction relies heavily on Greek, should you stay with this lady, marry her, and just see SP's to satisfy your desire for Greek? Or should you break it off early on and find someone else who enjoys Greek or is at least open to it?
 

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Comparing Greek and dfk is to put it bluntly, totally asinine, but considering the source of the comparison, nothing new.
 
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