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Man appears in Oshawa court after mom, teenage son and daughter killed

Phil C. McNasty

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Show me where someone with ONLY second degree murder charges got consecutive sentencing
I asked you first. Where does it show in Canadian law that a judge cannot exercise his authority and sentence someone to consecutive murder convictions for 2nd degree murder??

You still havent answered me yet. I'll wait for your answer.

Just because it hasnt happened yet in Canadian courts, doesnt mean it can't happen in the future.
This Fenn character has a criminal record, he's assaulted a cop before and he also has a bunch of other charges.
This makes him a prime candidate for either "dangerous offender" status, or just be given 3 consecutive life sentences.
Either way, he's doing serious time (as he should).


EDIT: just to reiterate, where does it show in Canadian law that a judge cannot exercise his authority and sentence someone to consecutive murder convictions for 2nd degree murder??
 

apoptygma

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I asked you first. Where does it show in Canadian law that a judge cannot exercise his authority and sentence someone to consecutive murder convictions for 2nd degree murder??

You still havent answered me yet. I'll wait for your answer.

Just because it hasnt happened yet in Canadian courts, doesnt mean it can't happen in the future.
This Fenn character has a criminal record, he's assaulted a cop before and he also has a bunch of other charges.
This makes him a prime candidate for either "dangerous offender" status, or just be given 3 consecutive life sentences.
Either way, he's doing serious time (as he should).


EDIT: just to reiterate, where does it show in Canadian law that a judge cannot exercise his authority and sentence someone to consecutive murder convictions for 2nd degree murder??
Directly from the article that YOU posted, in a lame attempt to argue YOUR point. Do you even read the articles that you reference?

Those crimes include “sexual assault; kidnapping or forcible confinement; terrorism; the killing of police officers or corrections officers; or, any first degree murders that are found to be of a particularly brutal nature,” according to a government backgrounder on the subject.

and

The bill would also give judges the discretion to impose those life sentences in other first-degree murder convictions.

I think it's time for someone to take your WiFi again... you're getting yourself too worked up.
 

Smallcock

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A relationship doomed from the start. Dude was 10 years younger than her and she had 3 kids.
 

apoptygma

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A relationship doomed from the start. Dude was 10 years younger than her and she had 3 kids.
When I was in my late 20s I had a relationship with a woman 14 years older than me with 3 kids.
It did not end up with most of them dead and me in jail.
 

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Very sad circumstance of extreme domestic violence. I wonder if the poor lady was trying to end the relationship that's typically a point where an abuser resorts to violence.
 

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A relationship doomed from the start. Dude was 10 years younger than her and she had 3 kids.
Not to blame the victim but as a single mom in her
later 30's with teenage kids she ought to be more selective
when finding a BF. The young dude was a compulsive
gambler with a criminal record. According to the boss
and ex-bf of the victim the killer turned out to be jealous
and abusive early in their relationship. If she wanted
a tattooed bad boy 10 years younger that is her choice. But
for goodness sake wait till your kids have grown up
before you take on a boy toy. Until then limit your
choices to the more mature type of guys whom your kids
could look up to.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Directly from the article that YOU posted, in a lame attempt to argue YOUR point. Do you even read the articles that you reference?

Those crimes include “sexual assault; kidnapping or forcible confinement; terrorism; the killing of police officers or corrections officers; or, any first degree murders that are found to be of a particularly brutal nature,” according to a government backgrounder on the subject.

and

The bill would also give judges the discretion to impose those life sentences in other first-degree murder convictions.

I think it's time for someone to take your WiFi again... you're getting yourself too worked up
I asked you where in Canadian law (or our criminal code) it says that second degree murder cannot be given consecutive sentences.

A newspaper article is not exactly an authority on Canadian law.

Let me ask you another question, are you saying a Canadian judge would never sentence anyone convicted of second-degree murder to consecutive sentences?? That's the position you're going with??
 

apoptygma

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I asked you where in Canadian law (or our criminal code) it says that second degree murder cannot be given consecutive sentences.

A newspaper article is not exactly an authority on Canadian law.

Let me ask you another question, are you saying a Canadian judge would never sentence anyone convicted of second-degree murder to consecutive sentences?? That's the position you're going with??
Dude... listen to yourself... YOU posted that article to support YOUR position... now you are contradicting it?
No wonder no one here takes you seriously.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Dude... listen to yourself... YOU posted that article to support YOUR position... now you are contradicting it?
No wonder no one here takes you seriously
Nah, its you who nobody takes seriously. You are incredibly full of shit.
You claim to be Mr. Know-it-all and you know nothing

There is no way in hell a guy who is charged with second degree murder is going to get consecutive sentences
Whats this, honeybun??!! https://www.cp24.com/news/eaton-cen...to-life-with-no-parole-for-30-years-1.2331033

Eaton Centre shooter sentenced to life with no parole for 30 years

A man who gunned down two people in a crowded downtown food court was sentenced Thursday to at least 30 years behind bars -- an unprecedented sentence for second-degree murder.

Ontario Superior Court Justice Eugene Ewaschuk, who denounced the crimes as horrific and outrageous, decided Christopher Husbands will be ineligible for parole for 15 years for each killing. Ewaschuk also decided the periods of parole ineligibility should be served consecutively.

"It's an unprecedented sentence for second-degree murder in Canada-- it's literally never been given," defence lawyer Dirk Derstine said
And what Corey Fenn did is even worse than this guy, because he killed 2 little kids in addition to his girlfriend. Plus he already has a criminal record for assaulting a cop. Even if he doesnt get 3 consecutive life sentences, there's a really good possibility he'll be declared a dangerous offender, which means he's never getting out.

Now apoptygma, lets see you bullshit your way out of this one :D
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Whatever the sentence the guy gets..... he will only serve 1/3 of it
I dont think so. Not when there's 2 little kids involved.
He didnt have to kill them as well.

I can see a judge giving leniency when its just his SO and its a crime of passion (like catching her in the act of adultery).
But killing 2 kids, I think the judge will throw the book at him
 

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Not to blame the victim but as a single mom in her
later 30's with teenage kids she ought to be more selective
when finding a BF. The young dude was a compulsive
gambler with a criminal record. According to the boss
and ex-bf of the victim the killer turned out to be jealous
and abusive early in their relationship. If she wanted
a tattooed bad boy 10 years younger that is her choice. But
for goodness sake wait till your kids have grown up
before you take on a boy toy. Until then limit your
choices to the more mature type of guys whom your kids
could look up to.
Totally agree with this. If you are responsible for the lives of 3 kids you should be putting their needs ahead of yours.

That son was really something special. I have been involved in hockey for 30 years. He was in the very least going to a Division 1 School on a full scholarship. He could flat out play and was solid academically.
 

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I am incensed by such an ignorant comment! Would a relationship be doomed if a single guy with 3 kids dated a woman 10 years his junior? This completely overshadows the issue—domestic violence is a huge concern!! Check stats to see how many Ontario women were killed by husbands or boyfriends in the last year alone!! Nationwide the numbers must be insane! It’s absolutely shocking! Perhaps when we stop making blanket statements and blaming the victims for “poor” or “selfish” choices we can truly start addressing the monster that is domestic violence and aggression toward women in general.
 

Smallcock

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I am incensed by such an ignorant comment! Would a relationship be doomed if a single guy with 3 kids dated a woman 10 years his junior?
Depends, but it would definitely have a higher chance of success than the current case. Why? A 29 year old woman is approaching her final years of fertility, so she may want to become part of a family if she doesn't have one already. A man with custody of 3 kids means the wife is either dead or he had to fight tooth and nail to have them stay with him, increasing the odds that he's a good guy and able to take care of them and takes fatherhood seriously.

On the other hand, if she's a jealous juiced up gym rat over 6 feet tall with a criminal record, the relationship might be a little rocky. Minor details, I suppose.
 

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Apropos of nothing really, the boy was an elite level hockey player and so is my son and I know this reverberated here in Ottawa. And for a time I was also a single hockey mom that dated. It’s crazy to think how easy it is to let a psychopath into your lives.
 

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Hahaha sorry—a woman at 29 is approaching her final years of fertility!? What bullshit school did you attend!? A woman is in the prime of her child bearing years at 29! And not to mention more and more women are postponing bearing children until much later. Statistically speaking a woman today will bear her FIRST child around the age of 29-30! And many more choose to have children well into their 30’s and 40’s. As to your other uninformed point the parents in this tragic case shared custody so the hero father scenario is discounted. Again I resent the implication that the victim should have known that her relationship would have taken such a tragic turn. We need to stop blaming the victims here. Change your mindset. Maybe one day you will be blessed with a daughter and you’ll be forced to eat your words.
 

Hermione777

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Apropos of nothing really, the boy was an elite level hockey player and so is my son and I know this reverberated here in Ottawa. And for a time I was also a single hockey mom that dated. It’s crazy to think how easy it is to let a psychopath into your lives.
BUT, fuck anyone that tries to say I was being reckless by dating as a single mom. Going out on a limb here by saying she likely didn’t see any red flags and just choose to ignore them.
 

Smallcock

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Hahaha sorry—a woman at 29 is approaching her final years of fertility!? What bullshit school did you attend!? A woman is in the prime of her child bearing years at 29! And not to mention more and more women are postponing bearing children until much later. Statistically speaking a woman today will bear her FIRST child around the age of 29-30! And many more choose to have children well into their 30’s and 40’s.
Don't confuse the age at which women today are bearing children with the age at which they're most fertile and able to deliver a healthy child. I thought this was common knowledge but you seem to have missed a few classes on reproduction.

https://yourfertility.org.au/for-women/age/
 

Hermione777

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Don't confuse the age at which women today are bearing children with the age at which they're most fertile and able to deliver a healthy child. I thought this was common knowledge but you seem to have missed a few classes on reproduction.

https://yourfertility.org.au/for-women/age/
Exactly. I was rabid in my early 30’s, already had kids and newly divorced. My ex was also out there doing his thing. No one would fault HIM for that.
 

Smallcock

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BUT, fuck anyone that tries to say I was being reckless by dating as a single mom. Going out on a limb here by saying she likely didn’t see any red flags and just choose to ignore them.
Dating as a single mom is not reckless but a single mom should be well aware that men - especially much younger childless men - willing to be in a serious relationship with a single mother is a small select pool of men. There are plenty of decent guys in this group but overall it's not a "normal" behavior for a man to assume the role of father to multiple kids that are not his own biologially. If he's an all around normal guy that happens to be a cuck, then it's a win-win for all parties. But if he's an alpha, watch out for the "red flags".
 
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