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Most studies I see are not controlled, and I always wanted to see what the results of an actual controlled study would be. I know it's not "real life" but it ends up seeming more scientifically valid as a study if inputs are actually strictly controlled.

So I come across this interesting piece.
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/21/17036004/do-low-carb-diets-work

It's not an article with a particular anti low-carb agenda per se. The last line is: "Tobias urged dieters not to lose sight of the bigger picture. 'Low-carb versus low-fat should not be the focus for people selecting a weight loss diet.' The focus, she said, should be on improving the quality of food that people eat instead."

Now, as an aside, I think that the debate is settled that low-carb diets are good for people with metabolic issues/diabetes (Type 2?) though

It seems that, notwithstanding some metabolic issues, minimizing highly processed foods, alcohol (especially beer) and leading a non-sedentary lifetsyle are a great start. I don't think following a strict diet that forbids non-berry fruits, potatoes and legumes is necessary.Those foods are all good pretty for you. You can be smart about carbs though, I guess. For example, if you eat a sandwich, the bread (I know, bread is evil, but it's an easy example) you choose could have double or triple the calories from it if you choose something like white Texas Toast vs smaller, healthier slices.
 

Frankfooter

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Most studies I see are not controlled, and I always wanted to see what the results of an actual controlled study would be. I know it's not "real life" but it ends up seeming more scientifically valid as a study if inputs are actually strictly controlled.

So I come across this interesting piece.
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/21/17036004/do-low-carb-diets-work
I met two people in the last month that were prescribed the keto diet by their doctors, one for pre-diabetic symptoms the other for high cholesterol.
Don't slam the keto thing until you've tried it either. The surprising part for me is feeling more energetic and a bit sharper, as well as not craving sugar/carbs.
I started feeling better and have just stuck with it, mind you its only 3 months now.
 

Galseigin

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It works.
Problem is, its tough to do..
I agree, you can lose the weight on it...but how long can you go without having pizza, Chinese food, ice cream, pasta, bread? Eventually you feel deprived, and the minute you add back some carbs you gain the weight back. It makes you compulsive, I tried it... the minute I had some ice cream the next day I was craving it.
 

The LoLRus

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Ok thanks...key is low carbs and low sugar. Guess eat some fruits & lot vegatable & protein. No junk food ("chips , candy , chocolates, fruit juice / soft drinks, & ice cream & beer & alcohol & pizza & most processed food")
Thank will keep your insulin level from spike too high and hopefully it body will go into ketosis ( fat burn state)
If you do want to drink make sure you drink only pure vodka. Its has ZERO carbs:

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I'm in my late 40s and as I've aged I have had to change my diet, exercise, and lifestyle to stay at a weight I feel the most happy. Low carb works for me. This is my personal experience and it not work for you, but...

1) Instead of focusing on diet only, I would suggest you take stock on your overall lifestyle.

2) Low carb helped tremendously but as I got older, I realized it was the small changes to my lifestyle that helped the sustainability of staying at a "healthy" weight.

3) My first steps were to start preparing food on my own using "real food" and not packaged food (e.g. frozen dinners). Eventually I started cooking for real (e.g. sous vide steaks, soups, etc).

4) Changing my alcohol habits. Most of my real drinking is socially or on the weekends.

5) Getting some serious good sleep night after night. New bed. Dark curtains. Ear plugs.

6) I now also do some intermittent fasting. With this and the above, I'm back at the weight I was at the age of 25.

I've always worked out regularly so that is not a lifestyle change I needed to make, but working out certainly is important overall.

Good luck.
 

gilford

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You need carbs to live. You cant cut them completely. If you are thinking keto. The science is sound but dont follow the fad advice. Ie. "I'm on keto so I can put butter in my coffee and eat back bacon every morning". Use a tdee calculator, use something like myfitness pal exercise and eat something that you can keep up consistently and you will see HEALTHY progress to your goals.
 

The LoLRus

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Its pretty hard to have a zero carb diet unless you want to eat meat only all day long. Even having one egg means you just ate 1 gram of carbs. Having a bit of carbs is okay, you will still lose weight. The trick is to keep your carb intake a slow as possible.

And yes, keto is very sustainable. I've read many reports of people staying on keto diet for years
 

Frankfooter

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Its pretty hard to have a zero carb diet unless you want to eat meat only all day long. Even having one egg means you just ate 1 gram of carbs. Having a bit of carbs is okay, you will still lose weight. The trick is to keep your carb intake a slow as possible.

And yes, keto is very sustainable. I've read many reports of people staying on keto diet for years
Its not that hard to keep going.
Eat salads with a chicken breast.
The hardest part is remember its high fat and adding butter, sour cream, olive oil, coconut oil or another fat to your greens.
And don't eat too much meat or you'll end up fucking yourself up like shakenbake.
 

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Its not that hard to keep going.
Eat salads with a chicken breast.
The hardest part is remember its high fat and adding butter, sour cream, olive oil, coconut oil or another fat to your greens.
And don't eat too much meat or you'll end up fucking yourself up like shakenbake.
Thankfully, my kidneys are on the mend. And that is from eating a balanced diet, as well.
 

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Hey guys...just my 2 cents worth......keto is defined as below 20g of carbs per day and can be maintained as long as u remain below that figure.....I did it for slightly over a year and went from 308 lbs to a low of 211 lbs, ive been on a low carb diet, somewhat lol if im being totally honest, for the past year and hv put back about 15 lbs....sidenote, there is a keto recipe for just about anything these days.....even friends who weren't on keto, absolutely loved my fathead pizza made with a cheese and almond flour crust! Keto lasagna exists but wasn't nearly as enjoyable lol......some ppl live on a keto diet longterm, but I missed pasta and French fries too much lol
 

The LoLRus

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Hey guys...just my 2 cents worth......keto is defined as below 20g of carbs per day and can be maintained as long as u remain below that figure.....I did it for slightly over a year and went from 308 lbs to a low of 211 lbs, ive been on a low carb diet, somewhat lol if im being totally honest, for the past year and hv put back about 15 lbs....sidenote, there is a keto recipe for just about anything these days.....even friends who weren't on keto, absolutely loved my fathead pizza made with a cheese and almond flour crust! Keto lasagna exists but wasn't nearly as enjoyable lol......some ppl live on a keto diet longterm, but I missed pasta and French fries too much lol
I personally think its okay to have cheat days once in a while.
I go to places like McDonalds or Pizzaville once or twice a month, it doesnt affect my weight hardly at all
 
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