View Poll Results: Why "no black gents"

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  • I had too many bad experiences with black guys in the past

    8 32.00%
  • My friends or coworkers had bad experiences with them so I avoid them

    1 4.00%
  • I work for a pimp that does not allow me to see other black men

    2 8.00%
  • My agency does not allow me accept black guys

    0 0%
  • I am not attracted to them or it's simply a preference

    3 12.00%
  • I'm racist

    3 12.00%
  • I have a black boyfriend or black family or friends, I want to be discreet

    1 4.00%
  • They are very cheap

    0 0%
  • Health concerns, disease ect..

    1 4.00%
  • Large penis

    6 24.00%
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Thread: To all SPs or MAs, what's your reason for "no black guys" on your ad?

  1. #49
    True, it is common sense. It should also be common sense for the gents on here to be polite INSTEAD of misogynostic sexist and belitting towards women. everytime we make a comment some verbal attack is made towards us and a twisting and dekiberate misconstruction is made...everytime there is a difference of opinion. Womens rights isnt just some made up feminazi movement for no reason.

    If men like u kept having your way towards us women we wouldnt be able to vote hold jobs or hold an opinion bc men like u think womrn r dumb and just a hole and belong in the kitchen.

    Men like u we d still be in the kitchen SERVING U and raising ur babies, yeah no thanks u can make ur own sandwhich.. The environmemt is very misogynistic on here and should actually bc more welcoming and encouraging for more sps and mas to want to participate in conversation but bc ppl like u and a few others they would rather lurk and not say anything bc of their business. I get that but my view is is anyone who has a problem with the fact that i have an opinion i dont want to see them as clients anyway.

    Believe me theres enough business in ottawa and enough NICE clients id rather spend time with then to have to fake being nice towards a misoginistic ahole. But id never put myself in that position in the first place.
    Wheres the respect? Chances of seeing an sp or ma are slim if you have behaviour issues such as that not only limited to SWs but finding a potential life partner as well.

    Also, im not understanding why you are continuously harping on the answers we have given to THE ORIGINAL POST THAT WAS DIRECRED TOWARDS SPS AND MAS Not you.

    So, because we were attempted to be silenced for our opinions which we were answering the OP s question, Nothing constructive has come out of this. Except for more racial justifications and that being sexist and an asshole towards women is ok.
    Ps: god bless the black client the brown client and asian ones too. For some reason these men "get it". You have a lot to learn blueballs. Im not responding to u anymore plz stop ur self righteous bantering. U r right ok?! right about everything, and ur opinions are solid and legit. Hope u can go to bed feeling like ur the man.



    Bluestones says: People discriminate against me every single day for all kinds of reasons
    Gee, i cant imagine why.

  2. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison_xox View Post
    Personally, I don’t have color preferences.. But I noticed that some girls that I worked with at different spas were advertising «**No black gentleman**» and of course it made me curious so I asked why .. Their responses was that Ottawa is not a big City and it is a very very small world .. Can you imagine how small is the black community?
    They were simply advertising no black gent in order to make sure they will never get face to face with their oncle , dad , friend of the family ect ... It was simply a matter on discretion .. I totally understand that .. I wouldn’t want to open the door in my work outfit to a friend of the family.. That would be awkward
    This makes total sense and is a perfect example of a reasoning for not seeing black clients that isn't racist.

    Bluestones, you need to seriously step back and go educate yourself a little more.

    I'll leave with a quote from another sex worker: "POC can discriminate, which simply means to select out based on one or more traits, in a situation. Discrimination is bias, in action. They cannot be racist , which is discrimination + an established racial power imbalance that supercedes the situation. All racism is discrimination (racism is a type of discrimination), not all discrimination is racism (some is sexism , some is "positive bias" like affirmative action, some doesn't even involve people at all, like a dog park that doesn't allow cats)"

  3. #51
    I'm not going to argue if it is racist or discriminatory to not see certain clients based on their colour. I do believe that in this industry a certain leeway should be given because for a provider it is their personal body and what reasons they have are their own. It's no different for me as a client to not want to see certain providers for certain reasons. My main reason is just personal taste.

    It can't be that I'm racist because my best friends sisters boyfriends dad's 2nd cousin once removed dog walking knows a black guy
    For the love of God, let the baby ride the dog.
    @bruce_deighan

  4. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    True, it is common sense. It should also be common sense for the gents on here to be polite INSTEAD of misogynostic sexist and belitting towards women. everytime we make a comment some verbal attack is made towards us and a twisting and dekiberate misconstruction is made...everytime there is a difference of opinion. Womens rights isnt just some made up feminazi movement for no reason.

    If men like u kept having your way towards us women we wouldnt be able to vote hold jobs or hold an opinion bc men like u think womrn r dumb and just a hole and belong in the kitchen.

    Men like u we d still be in the kitchen SERVING U and raising ur babies, yeah no thanks u can make ur own sandwhich.. The environmemt is very misogynistic on here and should actually bc more welcoming and encouraging for more sps and mas to want to participate in conversation but bc ppl like u and a few others they would rather lurk and not say anything bc of their business. I get that but my view is is anyone who has a problem with the fact that i have an opinion i dont want to see them as clients anyway.

    Believe me theres enough business in ottawa and enough NICE clients id rather spend time with then to have to fake being nice towards a misoginistic ahole. But id never put myself in that position in the first place.
    Wheres the respect? Chances of seeing an sp or ma are slim if you have behaviour issues such as that not only limited to SWs but finding a potential life partner as well.

    Also, im not understanding why you are continuously harping on the answers we have given to THE ORIGINAL POST THAT WAS DIRECRED TOWARDS SPS AND MAS Not you.

    So, because we were attempted to be silenced for our opinions which we were answering the OP s question, Nothing constructive has come out of this. Except for more racial justifications and that being sexist and an asshole towards women is ok.
    Ps: god bless the black client the brown client and asian ones too. For some reason these men "get it". You have a lot to learn blueballs. Im not responding to u anymore plz stop ur self righteous bantering. U r right ok?! right about everything, and ur opinions are solid and legit. Hope u can go to bed feeling like ur the man.





    Gee, i cant imagine why.
    In regards to your comment in another thread about every boyfriend you've ever had cheating on you: I can't fucking begin to imagine why. I'm done arguing with you as you're honestly shit for brains, and not because you're a woman but because you probably have a brain tumour bigger than your mouth. Note to self: don't have philosophical debates with craigslist hookers who clearly never finished grade school.

  5. #53
    Personally, I think discriminating based on race is so 100 years ago. Now I prefer to discriminate based on how much money someone has. I would prefer to do what MLK said. And treat people based on there character. But it takes too long to get to know someone. I prefer to just see what is in there wallet. It takes less time.

  6. #54
    But you have to admit bluestones. If a session with alma is as half as firery as her debating. It would be one wild ride. Just imagine her hands on you, the same fingers used to swiftly and passionately type her responses are now vigoursley (and sometimes clumsily) filling you with immense pleasure. The tension would be too much to handle. And that's just her hands, not even her talking. I would need to bring my puffer! I would be that excite! Yes?!

  7. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by RubberDucky View Post
    But you have to admit bluestones. If a session with alma is as half as firery as her debating. It would be one wild ride. Just imagine her hands on you, the same fingers used to swiftly and passionately type her responses are now vigoursley (and sometimes clumsily) filling you with immense pleasure. The tension would be too much to handle. And that's just her hands, not even her talking. I would need to bring my puffer! I would be that excite! Yes?!
    I'm not sure anything she wrote, nor how she wrote it, constituted "debating". I think the funniest part about her calling me a poorly-endowed, misogynistic, unintelligent, truck-driving (tesla actually), racist asshole, whom she'd never willingly service, is that I could show up tomorrow and she wouldn't have any idea who I am. Sadly I'd actually still fuck her, regardless of her low intelligence, and therein lies the problem.
    Last edited by BlueStones; 03-15-2018 at 05:28 PM.

  8. #56
    This was just a fun little poll I tried asking the few, if any, SPs here that did actually say "no black" in thier ads. And I won't be surprised if some of them lied about it or if some gents here voted lol. In any case, we can't really draw conclusions from this. There is no statistics but based on my experience from the SPs I spoke to, a good majority of them claim it was due to bad experience that they now refuse to see black men. I understand Bluestones viewpoint. It is a SP's choice and she has the right to not see black men for whatever reason, racism or not.

  9. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackpanther View Post
    This was just a fun little poll I tried asking the few, if any, SPs here that did actually say "no black" in thier ads. And I won't be surprised if some of them lied about it or if some gents here voted lol. In any case, we can't really draw conclusions from this. There is no statistics but based on my experience from the SPs I spoke to, a good majority of them claim it was due to bad experience that they now refuse to see black men. I understand Bluestones viewpoint. It is a SP's choice and she has the right to not see black men for whatever reason, racism or not.
    So what's the point of the poll, if its going to be rigged, chaffed, hijacked, incense, enrage, embitter, etc?

  10. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueStones View Post
    In regards to your comment in another thread about every boyfriend you've ever had cheating on you: I can't fucking begin to imagine why. I'm done arguing with you as you're honestly shit for brains, and not because you're a woman but because you probably have a brain tumour bigger than your mouth. Note to self: don't have philosophical debates with craigslist hookers who clearly never finished grade school.
    #sexwork is not shameful. There os nothing inherently degrading about sex work.

    OTHERS try to MAKE it shameful by trying convince or attach guilt or embarrassment or shame to what sexworkera do.
    You should examine why you want me to feel shame for this work by saying what u just did.

    My job is not degrading. People are.


    Bless your heart.

  11. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    #sexwork is not shameful. There os nothing inherently degrading about sex work.

    OTHERS try to MAKE it shameful by trying convince or attach guilt or embarrassment or shame to what sexworkera do.
    You should examine why you want me to feel shame for this work by saying what u just did.

    My job is not degrading. People are.


    Bless your heart.
    I never said, nor implied, it was shameful or degrading. My intention wasn't to shame you about your profession, I was just stating that I shouldn't have expected more from you intellectually. Theoretically, the average escort could be smarter than the average person, but it sure as hell has no intellectual barrier of entry. This entire interaction is actually quite representative of the entire "no blacks" argument I put forth: escorts might hypothetically be smarter than average, but if a select few particularly bad apples cause me grief, those experiences can certainly warrant me advertising "no debates with escorts allowed". In case you misunderstand as usual, you are the low-hanging fruit in this analogy.
    For further reference:

  12. #60
    Just wanted to share what I learned from women over the years as I didn't see this very true pov brought up yet and have found it to be true in other areas besides sex work.
    I had it explained to me that most women who put the 'No black gents' will add 'under 35' and they have no issue seeing older black men. The problem is how the younger culture was raised. Where most Canadian youth were raised with similar cultural icons and hobbies and crushes the black community was raised with their heroes being in rap singing of bitches and guns and that you aren't a man unless you pound that pussy hard and make her scream. Simply put she explained young black men have generally the same narrow view on what sex should be and it's painful to the woman. Never heard any pimping fears or racism come up.

  13. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Rio10 View Post
    Just wanted to share what I learned from women over the years as I didn't see this very true pov brought up yet and have found it to be true in other areas besides sex work.
    I had it explained to me that most women who put the 'No black gents' will add 'under 35' and they have no issue seeing older black men. The problem is how the younger culture was raised. Where most Canadian youth were raised with similar cultural icons and hobbies and crushes the black community was raised with their heroes being in rap singing of bitches and guns and that you aren't a man unless you pound that pussy hard and make her scream. Simply put she explained young black men have generally the same narrow view on what sex should be and it's painful to the woman. Never heard any pimping fears or racism come up.
    I actually did point out that out. "No blacks under 35" means it isn't about race, it's about a separate variable - maybe age, or culture, etc. and even if it only applies to black people, it's not inherently racist. You're discriminating against someone because of their personality, not their race. This is actually a very unique situation in that a woman's safety can be compromised by NOT being discriminatory. If a woman has met 50 french clients and 50 english clients, and 10 of each were at least somewhat bad to her, but 5 of the 10 french were EXTREMELY bad to her, and none of the 10 english were extremely bad, while the other 40 french were way nicer than the other 40 english on average, THEN YES, the averages are the same, BUT the distribution is skewed. In this case, it is morally permissible for an escort to discriminate against french people, since her job is literally one of the most dangerous possible.

  14. #62
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    For every ads that has the "statement", text them to ask what is/are their reason/s for including this discriminating restriction in their ads. Then report the answers here, the results can be added and categorized and everyone we'll have a clearer answer of the question at hand. One thing is for sure, it will never change no matter what is being said or done here; who disagree?

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  15. #63
    I know what i am, i know what kind of grades i get. i've gotten enough awards and trophys in my life and i dont have to justify who i am to someone who trolls an escort board.
    Now hold that graph up in the mirror and take a good hard look at yourself.

    Ps: you shouldnt expect anything from me bc i mean nothing to and u mean nothing to me. You re just a bully who enjoys picking on " low hanging fruit"...what does that say about you?
    Have a wonderful weekend!

  16. #64
    Alma, you've handled yourself beautifully in this thread. You're most likely smarter than me, in many ways, and I'm okay with that.

  17. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiz View Post
    For every ads that has the "statement", text them to ask what is/are their reason/s for including this discriminating restriction in their ads. Then report the answers here, the results can be added and categorized and everyone we'll have a clearer answer of the question at hand. One thing is for sure, it will never change no matter what is being said or done; who disagree?
    Good idea!

  18. #66
    I think saying "No Black" or "no men under 30" or any sort of pre-selection is discriminatory, based on the values and rules of our society. I'm not saying it's not right to have criterias, afterall the SPs are sharing with their clients what's most intimate, but it is discriminatory.

    Now, imagine the day that paying for sex becomes legal here, the reverse will occur. All laws, rules and values we have set on us will apply to this industry, just like we apply it to others. This discrimination (or whatever how we want to call it) will then become illegal, just like we cannot restrict a 19 years old boy to go to a strip club.

    I once went in Germany where it is fully legal, and there was no restrictions whatsoever on who could have the service other than having the minimum age for it.
    Last edited by beneath69; 03-18-2018 at 09:14 AM.

  19. #67
    Beneath. Insurance companies discriminate based on age, gender, and much more. I think discrimination is ok, it's just certain discrimination we have decided as a society not to engage in.

    The best way it was explained to me, I would hate to see my son be mistreated treated solely for being black or something he did not choose. So I do my best to not treat other people based off race or gender, so we can live in community where people are judged based on their character and accomplishments.

    But the topic that is more unclear is the statistics of how people on average differ by race and gender. The left generally likes to claim the statistics are obviously clear we are all the exact same. Even sometimes between men and woman! (Physically we are different lol) And it creates an interesting debate. (Except when immature people decide to start making it personal and start attacking each other personally, instead of the ideas...)

    Hence we see so many responses

  20. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackpanther View Post
    Just out of curiosity. And please be honest. If you have other reasons you can indicate below by commenting or choose the best possible poll that. When I mean bad experience it can be any of the following: use of drugs, gangs, thugs, pimps approaching or recruiting you, violence, threats, aggressiveness, theft, and robbery ect..

    Thank you.
    Why is just plain racist/xenophobe not on your list? Dude it should be.

  21. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by tampa100 View Post
    Why is just plain racist/xenophobe not on your list? Dude it should be.
    I'm pretty sure that option has always been there.

  22. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nesbot View Post
    I'm pretty sure that option has always been there.
    Yea I some how missed it.Thanks.

  23. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    #sexwork is not shameful. There os nothing inherently degrading about sex work.

    OTHERS try to MAKE it shameful by trying convince or attach guilt or embarrassment or shame to what sexworkera do.
    You should examine why you want me to feel shame for this work by saying what u just did.

    My job is not degrading. People are.


    Bless your heart.
    All I can say is WOW and I am kicking myself why have I not met Alma yet. I don't think I would have been this polite to a moron.

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