Why do clients patronize SWs with gifts?

It’s really simple, some guys like the fantasy of a girlfriend, and buying gifts and SW’s who appreciate the gifts are just part of the fantasy.
Who doesn’t enjoy buying and giving a gift to someone they like?

Tashki said:

One of the things that I found hard to understand about this industry is the idea of a client patronizing a SW with gifts. I see SP's and MPA's post their gifts from clients on their Twitter feed and also seeing some SP's post a link to their Amazon wishlist on their and men actually buying those accessories for them. I believe that the dynamic of a client/SW relationship is a business transnational relationship. She provides you service and you pay. Nothing more and nothing less. Anything outside of that dynamic such as buying them gifts I find to be very unnecessary. I feel that it makes the client seem like the SW is their actual significant other and on top of that, SWs are only a part of our lives in a business sense. SWs are not thinking about us at the back of their minds while they are off-work so I don't see a logical reasoning as to why would a client go out of their way to buy a SW a gift like they are their actual partner.

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Agreed completely - but boy is it funny and amusing.

Tashki said:

One of the things that I found hard to understand about this industry is the idea of a client patronizing a SW with gifts. I see SP's and MPA's post their gifts from clients on their Twitter feed and also seeing some SP's post a link to their Amazon wishlist on their and men actually buying those accessories for them. I believe that the dynamic of a client/SW relationship is a business transnational relationship. She provides you service and you pay. Nothing more and nothing less. Anything outside of that dynamic such as buying them gifts I find to be very unnecessary. I feel that it makes the client seem like the SW is their actual significant other and on top of that, SWs are only a part of our lives in a business sense. SWs are not thinking about us at the back of their minds while they are off-work so I don't see a logical reasoning as to why would a client go out of their way to buy a SW a gift like they are their actual partner.

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Based on the type of relationships you have with SPs, I can see you point.

However, please remember that not everyone has the same type of relationship with escorts and therefore you can't say what happens between them and therefore can't comment on why others should not be giving gifts

I have gifted my clients, they have gifted me. We have a different relationship then the type you discribe.

Tashki said:

Why do clients patronize SWs with gifts?

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Because they are idiots? They are already paying $250-350/hr.

Go ahead and flame me.

Bostonmass said:

It’s really simple, some guys like the fantasy of a girlfriend, and buying gifts and SW’s who appreciate the gifts are just part of the fantasy.
Who doesn’t enjoy buying and giving a gift to someone they like?

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On a first date?

I understand if they are a multi-repeat client and there is some connection. But even still...

shack said:

Because they are idiots? They are already paying $250-350/hr.

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It is also cheaper then a penile implant.

In all seriousness I can see Sw + Johns becoming friends and gifts being passed around out of appreciation. I have been generously gifted by my clients in the past which I hAve been appreciative and grateful for but it was completely out of the blue.... which does happen in many many industries.

I am guessing what appears to be in poor taste is the directness that these wishlists are, looking thereby unhumble (esp when looking at the costs of the gifts themselves). In the ladies defense I am sure many of us has done much MUCH stupider and costly things financially for our SOs, for dare I say much less return

Like a poster above said, these are guys that truly enjoy the fantasy of a girlfriend or they want to stand out in the SPs mind for whatever reasons. For some, it may be a healthy exercise in an otherwise fulfilling life. For others, it may be a sign of loneliness or mental illness. I've seen similar behavior in men with webcam models... e.g retirees/pensioners paying literally tens of thousands over the course of months to the models. These are women they'll never meet but they build these online "relationships" via typed text in the chat rooms, and are strung along willingly sometimes for years. As we all know, the power of a woman's sexuality over men can never be underestimated.

Smallcock said:

I've seen similar behavior in men with webcam models... e.g retirees/pensioners paying literally tens of thousands over the course of months to the models. These are women they'll never meet but they build these online "relationships" via typed text in the chat rooms, and are strung along willingly sometimes for years

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Jesus

In normal business, many companies gift their customers or vice-versa as a way to show appreciation. Technically the scenario is analogous - in a business relationship, money is exchanging hands, so there's technically no need for it. But every company does it as a way to show appreciation in non-monetary ways.

I personally see no reason why a person wouldn't gift an SP if the gift can be shared (food/wine/toy) or providing a specific outfit/costume that he wants her to wear. Anything else seems excessive and just seems like a way to get something from her, although he's still paying her anyway. I say if a guy is feeling very generous, give the cash equivalent to charity cause chances are if you are seeing the SP enough to warrant a gift, she's probably doing fairly well.

JR has said it's a different type of relationship. I think her circumstances are rare in that she has long-term clients and spends more time than has been paid for or even may not charge them once in a blue moon so the gifts definitely show appreciation. But for any SP who is charging full pop to a client every time and sticking to the time, I definitely question why a guy would shower her with gifts when she clearly treats the relationship as 100% business.

They're falling in love

Jessica Rain said:

Based on the type of relationships you have with SPs, I can see you point.

However, please remember that not everyone has the same type of relationship with escorts and therefore you can't say what happens between them and therefore can't comment on why others should not be giving gifts

I have gifted my clients, they have gifted me. We have a different relationship then the type you discribe.

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True when it's good. My ATF of many years certainly gifted me on multiple occasions, and looking back I was perhaps not quite as generous as her. Of course different things have different value to different people.

KK

sempel said:

In normal business, many companies gift their customers or vice-versa as a way to show appreciation. Technically the scenario is analogous - in a business relationship, money is exchanging hands, so there's technically no need for it. But every company does it as a way to show appreciation in non-monetary ways.

I personally see no reason why a person wouldn't gift an SP if the gift can be shared (food/wine/toy) or providing a specific outfit/costume that he wants her to wear. Anything else seems excessive and just seems like a way to get something from her, although he's still paying her anyway. I say if a guy is feeling very generous, give the cash equivalent to charity cause chances are if you are seeing the SP enough to warrant a gift, she's probably doing fairly well.

JR has said it's a different type of relationship. I think her circumstances are rare in that she has long-term clients and spends more time than has been paid for or even may not charge them once in a blue moon so the gifts definitely show appreciation. But for any SP who is charging full pop to a client every time and sticking to the time, I definitely question why a guy would shower her with gifts when she clearly treats the relationship as 100% business.

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Maybe you can do me a favour and give me the gift of non-assumption. This is the second post where you have made specific assumptions about me directly. About my time spent vrs paid, my taxation.

Enough please.

Oh yay another one of these threads....

sempel said:

In normal business, many companies gift their customers or vice-versa as a way to show appreciation. Technically the scenario is analogous .

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Actually, they are completely opposite.

Jessica Rain said:

Maybe you can do me a favour and give me the gift of non-assumption. This is the second post where you have made specific assumptions about me directly. About my time spent vrs paid, my taxation.

Enough please.

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Hypocrisy - quoiting someone who you've asked not to quote you.

Taxation was a different thread so if I erred there, feel free to correct me (or not). Everything else has been stated in other threads so I don't know how I've assumed anything. Are you saying you don't sometimes give extra time, something you've mentioned elsewhere? Are you saying you've never not charged a long-term client, something you've mentioned elsewhere?

FYI, I'm not disagreeing with your point and am supporting a reason for you and others getting gifts.

Some SP’s also turn out to be nice people. If you get to know an sp and enjoy spending time with her sometimes it’s nice to buy her a gift.

It’s sorta like giving her a tip but more personalized.

My guess would be there are different reasons:

1) Saviour complex: provide a lady with a gift she can't possibly afford herself, or multiple gifts which she could not afford all of, and therefore provide her with a lifestyle she never had while growing up but wanted (supposing she has communicated as much or he has reason to believe so), or any other scenario that allows him to feel he is saving her by spoiling her.

2) Dominance: he knows other guys are paying for her attention but perhaps he has more free cash flow to spend on the ladies and lacks dominance in social circles, or lacks social circles, and uses his wallet to gain dominance through the appearance of affluence and financial superiority....you must be well off to gift some of the gifts I've seen and for some men, and women, money = dominance....lolol.

3) Pussy on a pedestal: he has an unhealthy attachment to her and the fantasy has reached unhealthy levels where he has begun to reject the reality of the Client/SP relationship and has entered into a more personal, albeit delusion realm where he is simply doing what a good SO does.

4) none of the above....but it would take some convincing for me to believe it comes from a healthy place.

I personally will never gift. I'll just book longer dates or more often, or both, if I really like the girl. I will offer a caveat though; I don't feel this applies to simple gestures such as bringing beverages to consume during dates or clothing you want her to wear. If it's more than you would give a stranger/friend out of genuine feelings of altruism, then it's outside of the caveat, just my opinion.

User 123 said:

Oh yay another one of these threads....

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Are you the same kind of guy who would berate a new member for reviving an old thread too? Just cause it's old news to you, doesn't me it is for everyone else. I'm sure the same old topics come up time and time again as people who join the board have similar concerns/experiences/questions....I know this and I'm new....why don't you?