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Why do clients patronize SWs with gifts?

Uber1952

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This guy is a complete waste of time!!
Seen Jess a good amount of times her rates are fair and you get what you pay for with Jess!!9
 

Uber1952

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I say have some respect for the Sw out there especially this one. Don't be a bully that's what kids do!!!How is
 

kherg007

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Why? Because I like her. I like many business associates. Super hot ones that will....uh....share companionship....and make me feel like I'm 25 again... I am PARTICULARLY fond of...Lol. Plus if i am going to her place i hate to arrive empty handed, unless my schedule fails to permit a stop. Finally, I'm not the smartest bloke in the world, but I haved learned that woman appreciate being made to feel that you thought about them a bit prior to the visit. And the great ladies who brighten my life I do think about for sure.
 

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Based on the type of relationships you have with SPs, I can see you point.

However, please remember that not everyone has the same type of relationship with escorts and therefore you can't say what happens between them and therefore can't comment on why others should not be giving gifts

I have gifted my clients, they have gifted me. We have a different relationship then the type you discribe.
So you have paid your clients to have sex with you?

Lets get real here you get paid to have sex, spread your legs or ass, suck cock, catch cum, be a girlfriend to fat ugly old men, make fat ugly old men feel fortunate to be able to tap something they have no chance to do in real life.

There is nothing wrong with what you do because your profession is more honourable than being a politician.
 

Jasmine Raine

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At the root of it it's just a reminder to her of my appreciation, as in I appreciate who she is, what she does, and for making me feel like it's more than a provider/client arrangement. I wont ever be able to gift her a Louis, or a Porsche, or a tropical island, but I do what I can.
This is exactly how I feel when I get a gift.

Except, no tropical island???? Really???? I don't know if I can be with someone who is not willing to buy me an island. I mean that is kind of a deal breaker, no? LOL

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So you have paid your clients to have sex with you?

Lets get real here you get paid to have sex, spread your legs or ass, suck cock, catch cum, be a girlfriend to fat ugly old men, make fat ugly old men feel fortunate to be able to tap something they have no chance to do in real life.

There is nothing wrong with what you do because your profession is more honourable than being a politician.
Again with the assumptions. I have two clients in this thread alone. They are not old, they are not fat and they are certainly not ugly. I don't fuck ugly people.

Yes, I get to have sex. I get to enjoy a good cock in my mouth, I get to cum over and over and over again. I get to get fucked...well, very well. I get to enjoy the company of others. I get paid to do the laundry after because with my clients, fucking is done right and that means making a mess.

So thank you for your assumptions, but maybe try harder not to look so silly and ignorant next time. Thanks.

I made this thread to ask so I can get a better understanding of the thought process behind clients patronizing SPs. I’m still new. You saying “because I can” does not validate it being a deductive reason as to why you buy gifts to SPs
Actually, I think it explains it perfectly. It is the only reason that is valid if you think about it. Why does anyone do anything? Because they can, because they want to. You are the one who put the limit on the type of relationship you can have with an SP, so for you, you can't. You can't justify it based on your type of relationship.

He can. He has different relationships with escorts. He sees different escorts. As I have said, I have gifted clients. Because why? Because I can. I can give a gift that will be appreciated. Based on the types of relationships you seem to have with escorts or are going to have, you can't. You don't delve deeper than getting balls deep. That is ok. But remember, for others it is different. As I said, different types of encounters and relationships with escorts will yield different results.

If an escort is only a means to an end, then no. Why gift her? But if that escort is more then that, why not gift each other? Everyone likes getting a little something special and unexpected.

Now saying all this, I reconize that some women are not like me. They want large expensive gifts, first time gifts, etc Those I don't understand. Then again my wishlist on my site is for chocolate, movies, chocolate, sex toys, chocolate, books, coffee, .... Oh and in case I didn't say it, chocolate. ;)
 

Uber1952

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No.1 Jess I would love to buy you a tropical island just for you and I to
No.2 Assumptions about you. Really sweet Jess
Obviously the guy is wasting his time with such crap. Hmmm don't worry Jess most of us have your back. You know what I bring to the table where your concerned:*******
 

Smallcock

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I don't fuck ugly people.
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This is when you know you're talking to someone that has no objectivity, and thus no credibility.

Jessica only fucks young, attractive studs. Assumptions hahaha
 

Jasmine Raine

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This is when you know you're talking to someone that has no objectivity, and thus no credibility.

Jessica only fucks young, attractive studs. Assumptions hahaha
I fuck maybe 4 people a month. I think my odds of ensuring they are not ugly people is pretty high thanks, but speaking of assumptions, why do you assume that

1. Only young people are attractive
2. That I only want young people
3. That as open as I am, that I would lie

Seriously, I don't want anyone under 30. I make that clear. Just like some men are not attracted to young 20 somethings, I am the same way. I like a man, not a boy. That is just me. You can call that no creditablity, personally I don't care. I am still enjoying my sex life with non-ugly people whether you believe it or not. LOL
 

sempel

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Like any job in life (especially ones where people get tips), ZERO people will decline free money and tips. So IMO, anyone on the receiving end will always enjoy freebies.

As for people giving tips, it really comes to:

1. If you have extra money you feel like giving
2. How much of a connection you have with that product or service.
3. If you feel bad for the person (pity pay)

As for #2, having sex with someone has a connection with some people. Even if it's just a one-off one hour session, some people will feel emotional and treat that as some kind of human contact/GF/BF material type of thing. So to keep it going and feel a sense of it still happening, you give gifts.... just like a married couple or BF/GF relationship

As for #3, typically the things you tip in life...... waiters, taxi drivers, SPs, etc..... are the kinds of jobs most people will feel some pity for. So you give a bit more to keep them happy.

On the other hand, someone working at the mall making minimum wage being Al Bundy selling shoes isn't accustomed to getting tips. Even if the person slaves away all day with stack of shoes, people's smelly feet and going back and forth to the stock room and back for picky shoe buyers, they get zero tips.

A crappy job, but when compared to a waiter, taxi driver or SP who can deal with more demanding customers and have a job portrayed as low on ladder of success, people can give tips to prop up their spirits to show that their service is still needed and valued.

So why doesn't Al Bundy get tips? Or why the person working the counter at 7-11 get tips? Probably because those menial jobs are more clean cut and don't involve getting dirty with food with yelling kids, stuffy taxis in hot weather, and clients who act like pigs.
Yes, I don't see anyone declining freebies.

I know some places will ask you if you got help from an associate (Sportchek comes to mind). I don't know if they ask the question because they want to know if you were helped (good service), they are monitoring associates to ensure they are doing their jobs, or the person gets some credit/compensation for the sale. So perhaps there is some form of additional compensation behind the scenes that is not being seen.

But yes, I have always said I don't understand tipping in general. Why is it that some professions get tipped and others don't? Why is there a need for tipping in the first place? I just read that Australia pays its employees and there is no concept of tipping, no expectation. Sure, I'm thinking the staff love tourists who will tip but if you are just working at a place outside the tourist areas you get your wages and that's it. You provide good service and that's it. Why are we rewarding a server who may spend 15 min out of 90 min with you bringing food/drinks, taking orders, etc. but you don't tip the sales staff at a store that might spend 30-60 min with you helping you with whatever?

I've given small gifts to my ATF before, I've been seeing her for about 5 years now so I see it as a sign of appreciation for the years of good service she has given me. She also gives me small gifts around Christmas or my birthday so it kind of evens out, heck this year she got me valentine's day chocolates which I thought was a nice touch. I think it just depends on what kind of relationship you have with that particular provider.
I see nothing wrong if there is mutual exchanges. If it's one-sided, which I imagine it is for some, that's a bit concerning.

I made this thread to ask so I can get a better understanding of the thought process behind clients patronizing SPs. I’m still new. You saying “because I can” does not validate it being a deductive reason as to why you buy gifts to SPs
Actually, "because I can" is a fair reason. Everybody has a choice. Sometimes it can be explained with a rational reason, other times it cannot. How many people travel and haggle when purchasing things, something you'd never really do here? Many do - because they can.
 

Don Draper

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One of the things that I found hard to understand about this industry is the idea of a client patronizing a SW with gifts. I see SP's and MPA's post their gifts from clients on their Twitter feed and also seeing some SP's post a link to their Amazon wishlist on their and men actually buying those accessories for them. I believe that the dynamic of a client/SW relationship is a business transnational relationship. She provides you service and you pay. Nothing more and nothing less. Anything outside of that dynamic such as buying them gifts I find to be very unnecessary. I feel that it makes the client seem like the SW is their actual significant other and on top of that, SWs are only a part of our lives in a business sense. SWs are not thinking about us at the back of their minds while they are off-work so I don't see a logical reasoning as to why would a client go out of their way to buy a SW a gift like they are their actual partner.
You're a soulless, jaded and lonely individual to utter such a callous statement.

If you feel this way, then all you need is a blow up doll to service your needs. Complete disregard for the humanity of a woman makes you less of a human being than would be thought possible.

You also know you can stop hobbying whenever you want and not deal with this scenario. No one is stopping you from doing this.
 

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You're a soulless, jaded and lonely individual to utter such a callous statement.

If you feel this way, then all you need is a blow up doll to service your needs. Complete disregard for the humanity of a woman makes you less of a human being than would be thought possible.

You also know you can stop hobbying whenever you want and not deal with this scenario. No one is stopping you from doing this.
This is an extreme reaction and there's nothing wrong with the OP's belief that the relationship is transactional. Frankly, many SP's on here re-enforce this position on numerous occasions. I see nothing wrong with a person asking the question and I'm sure some people will agree with the OP's POV. The OP has not indicated an SW is subhuman and doesn't deserve a gift.
 

kherg007

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The same group of people always ask the same questions:

Why do clients give SPs gifts?
Why do clients tip SPs?
Why do clients book extended sessions?

Short answer: because I can.

I've never understood why people are so concerned with things that don't affect their lives. Why does it matter to you?

I'll give a reason but this isn't the reason why I give gifts. I often book multi hour sessions, so let's say for this example, I book a 4 hour session with an indy who gives me a packaged rate of $1,000 as opposed to $300/hr x 4 = $1,200. So with the $200 difference, I spend some, half or all of it on gifts for the SP. So in this case, everyone's point of spending money on top of the hourly rate is now moot.

I already know from experience, this will stem the question of why do I book multi hour sessions. Short answer: because I can. Again, why does it matter to you?

I have my preferences, you have yours. Maybe I just want to cuddle with someone for 4 hours, maybe I just want someone to talk to (this is cheaper than going to see a shrink), maybe I just like sex, maybe it's none of your business.

I'm single by the way, I don't hobby when I'm in a relationship. So my question is why do guys in relationships see an SP? What's worse, me giving an SP a gift or you cheating on your wife/gf?

Flame on!
You stole my opening line lol. Agreed! P.S. Clear your mailbox EC...
 

massman

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Why do clients give gifts to SPs? 1. They can 2. They want to.

Bigger question is why TF do so many people care that they do??? Some here seem to think that there is a worldwide conspiracy theory by all women to dupe men and swindle then out of their hard earned cash.

Some provider / client relationships develop into a little more than a simple fee in exchange for a specified service. Just like people give Xmas gifts to their doctor (who gets paid plenty and can afford a bottle of single malt themselves) their hairstylist, housekeeper etc. It’s a token for going a bit above and beyond the usual. Giving a gift to show appreciation of someone even in the context of a business relationship feels good for some people. It’s sad that so many are so jaded that they feel they have to criticize this practice, rather than just carry on and behave in their sp/ client relationships however they see fit.
 

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One of the things that I found hard to understand about this industry is the idea of a client patronizing a SW with gifts. I see SP's and MPA's post their gifts from clients on their Twitter feed and also seeing some SP's post a link to their Amazon wishlist on their and men actually buying those accessories for them. I believe that the dynamic of a client/SW relationship is a business transnational relationship. She provides you service and you pay. Nothing more and nothing less. Anything outside of that dynamic such as buying them gifts I find to be very unnecessary. I feel that it makes the client seem like the SW is their actual significant other and on top of that, SWs are only a part of our lives in a business sense. SWs are not thinking about us at the back of their minds while they are off-work so I don't see a logical reasoning as to why would a client go out of their way to buy a SW a gift like they are their actual partner.
If people only bought gifts for their partners there would be a lot of sad children on Christmas LOL! I find that clients go above and beyond to buy an escort gifts beside their fav escort(s) go above and beyond in servicing them. Sometimes over time you may develop a close friendship where buying a gift for someone you care about isn’t abnormal. I have a select few clients that I have developed a close bond with and can see myself still talking to even after I leave this industry.

Sometimes there is more to this hobby that just buy and sell. There is often a whole other dynamic where people become close and want to do something extra to show they care or simply because they enjoy seeing someone happy.

I have a client that gets me little trinkets and gifts from around the world. Though they may not mean much to other people they mean so much to me because it means that he is thinking of me even from across the globe. That’s humbling. I have another client that gets me my favourite wine and chocolates every visit. He doesn’t have to but he wants to and it always makes my day. Another client bought me a bunch of lingerie and a gown and I will be wearing them for my next photo shoot and dedicating the whole shoot to him.

I once bought a tie for a client because I saw it and thought of him. I know he likes funky ties. He wore nothing but that tie the next time he saw me. It meant a lot to him. Now he says it’s his favourite tie in his whole collection!

When you grow close with someone you want to do things that make them smile. We may be escorts that provide a transactional service but we are still human beings. You don’t have to be a partner to buy/receive a gift for someone. Buying gifts is something people do for others they care about. That could be a parent, a child, a friend, a coworker, the homeless man down the street and yes even escorts.
 

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4. The naive type who gets easily swindled. Sort of like going to a strip joint. Every stripper coming by treats you nice and thinks you are great looking, even with scripted canned lines..... "Oh wow, do you work out?" Gimme a break. I'm probably 40 lbs overweight, haven't been to a gym in 10 years and I'm wearing short sleeves which shows zero ripped biceps. The second you decline, they shuffle off, give you an evil eye half the type and try the same line on the next table. Nothing makes them feel better than finding that lonely old guy who can't say no. Guy probably spends his entire monthly pension on her in 2 hours.
Could not agree more. A lot of guys lose perspective. They think that they finally found "the one". She's young, beautiful, and has agreed to have sex with him. Just that teenie weenie problem of the donation. Oh well, he's sure that he can bring her round to being his real life significant other.

 

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I used to bring small gifts to every session. I thought most people were bringing gifts, so I thought I should probably do the same. The other reason was to be nice, make the girl feel comfortable and appreciated, since I assumed they have to deal with shitbags regularly.

That changed though. I realized that most escorts don't even deserve the $$$ they are getting. For these reasons:
Some escorts themselves are shitbags and they deserve the shitbag clients they have to deal with.
Seeing escorts complain about not being able to afford something or beg for things. Especially one who is charging $400/hr.
Bad hygiene, even with one escort who is supposed to be some VIP golden pussy with her expensive rate. Expects me to be clean but I have to put up with her smell.
I look at photos, read the reviews, and then the girl ends up being barely even average looking. Screw the agencies with their photoshop AND the reviewers with low standards who rate all the girls 8+/10.

If I am paying, I should be in bed with a pretty girl that makes me feel good. So, after all the shitty experiences with other escorts, I am hooked on Callie @ Mirage even though she is nothing special. I think she deserves some gifts from me simply because I don't feel like I wasted money after spending an hour with her.
 

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I fuck maybe 4 people a month. I think my odds of ensuring they are not ugly people is pretty high thanks, but speaking of assumptions, why do you assume that
That is very low volume Jess. I'm not sure it guarantees most of your clients are attractive but it does show you can definitely pick and choose when a client is requesting a repeat session.
 

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I love a mature woman in her for forties they teach you so much especially in the lovemaking skills. 40's are great years for most women. Not getting older getting better. The Sw I see all in there forties and beautiful women.
As for giving a gift to a Sw and I'm not talking expensive things but it's the joy that comes from them and makes my heart feel special and makes me smile.
Lots of days lately certain Sw have made my day threw some rough times. Like the lady in this thread.
 

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I think perspective is important. On this thread there seems to be some with the mindset that this is just a commercial transaction - no emotions, and therefore gifts are stupid. But if you keep things in perspective, then there is absolutely nothing weird or dangerous about giving gifts within reason.

In business, I've made many close friends with people who started off as clients or where I was their client (men and women). Face it, in life you meet people and those you like, you make a connection. Sometimes after a while you get a feeling the connection isn't what you thought so you move on. I've given gifts to providers on a handful of occasions - but only with regulars where we've seen each other enough that we're on a real name basis and there's a level of trust. Nothing extravagant - eg: small "going away" gifts when they were going on extended travel breaks or birthday gifts - again nothing extravagant. I've also received gifts in return - and little things like day off appointments that are totally off the clock (within reason - I don't believe in abusing a privilege) or even surprise "menu items" thrown in. Absolutely no illusions that we're going to run off to Tahiti and spend the rest of our days swimming naked and fucking all night. But it's much more enjoyable having sex with somebody where you have a bit of a personal connection or at least like each other - even if you pay for it. And for those who will say it's all an illusion - well, what's the worst case so long as you've kept it in perspective?
 
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