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peteeey

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Exactly my sentiments. Shulman is okay. He's similar to the better American announcers who sound professional despite having an understandable bias toward the team. I can understand announcers having somewhat of a bias. The team may have a say in who announces the game, they grow close to the players or they aren't as critical because they have to spend the entire season with the team. I find Buck and Tabler not critical at all and sometimes are condescending, as if Jays fans are still learning the ins and outs of baseball.

I love it when Shulman does the Blue Jays broadcasts. He is the best voice in professional sports as far as I'm concerned. But overall I think the Jays announcers are the worst in not being critical. Tabler by far is the biggest brown noser. My goodness I would love to hear just once anything said critical of John Gibbons managerial decisions. FFS there are so many to choose from.
 

shack

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For those who criticize the Toronto announcers for being big homers, the next time the Jays are in a rain delay somewhere and we get bonus coverage from some American broadcast, then you will see what real homers are like. I hate Jerry Remy in Boston. Not only does he never criticize, you never get any analysis of the other team. One time he spent the entire half inning of the away team's at bats talking about what a great dresser Jim Rice is. Buck and Pat give you info of the opposing team's players, their back stories or their struggles or how they were acquired etc. You rarely get any of that on any American broadcast.

I believe that they have been instructed to be more homerish, but I still find them extremely professional.
 

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You can hate statistics all you want but when used properly they can be (and often are) more accurate predictors than anything else out there (i.e., your "gut feeling", or a commentator telling you about "when they were in the league...").

The problem is most commentators are completely unqualified to be performing statistical analysis. But when you get someone who knows what they're doing (usually working for the teams), they can be of real value.

Statistics don't "predict the future." They analyze the past and look for correlations between factors. Stronger correlations means an increased likelihood (not a certainty) that an event will repeat itself.
 

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Local sportscaster have to be homers. First off, no one wants to listen to their local sportscaster "telling them like it is" when their local team sucks. Second, your local sportscaster spends a lot of team talking to your team's players and if he doesn't play nicey nice he won't be getting the juicy tidbits that listeners want to hear--they'll get ignored.

Homers are just part of the sportscaster game. As long as you're aware of them being homers and take it all with a grain of salt, it's all good.
 

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Are we listening to different broadcasts? I personally like the team of Buck, Pat, and Dan. Some of you say they aren't critical but that's not their job - they are commentators. What I like is there is almost a bit of unbiased style commentary - they do compliment the other teams/players, provide snippets about other teams that are doing well. Sure they don't go over the top when it comes to calling out bad plays or decisions but they do politely disagree. E.g. if a team steals and gets caught when they didn't need to, the guys will point it out. I also don't mind some of the "education" as there will always be new fans or those not familiar with the game who have something to learn.

Not that I watch other teams but I found the playoff commentary was sad and terrible for the Jays because the announcers seemed a bit slow (I guess ESPN does all the playoff coverage).

Fact is Gibbons at times made horrific pitching decisions, whether it was to leave someone in or put pitcher X in. Suddenly a lead would be lost. They do say though that managers generally have little effect during the course of a game so who knows if the same results would take place with a different person at the helm.
 

shack

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I think I heard them three times tonight mention "a long stretch pass". Is that opposed to a short stretch pass?

It's like referring to an overweight obese guy.
 

Nad Smith

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"little bit"....at least one of those words is unnecessary....he throws his curve a little more....not a little bit more........or he throws his curve a bit more......but they say a little bit more.

The worst offender is Pat Tabler. The over under is that he will say "little bit" 20 times in a game. If you are a drinker, take a drink every time he says "little bit", you will be sloshed by the fourth inning.

If you are trying to quit drinking.......tell yourself to only drink when Pat disagrees with Buck...you will be sober again. That is a "little bit" of my pet peeve. JUst once, I want to hear Pat say "you are full of it Buck, I disagree a little with you! or a lot
 

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When I'm watching sports, I usually turn the sound off and have music playing. I gave up on media 'commentators' and their moronic dialogue decades ago..
Haha. I have been doing this or the last 15yrs. I know all the rules and calls so I have a much better experience jus having my stereo playing in the background
 

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I used to love WWE a lot. But now I realized they can do anything for business. At least they should show something that viewers can digest. Now I only watch WrestleMania, not any other event.
 

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I really hate these new baseball stats like WAR, WHIP and OPS. Give it to me simple, man. I like my homers, RBIs, and ERA.
Hear, hear. Calculating Gehrig's and Ruth's WAR, OPS and other bullshit stats for many publications is the greatest waste of time and irrelevance one can imagine.
 

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I used to love WWE a lot. But now I realized they can do anything for business. At least they should show something that viewers can digest. Now I only watch WrestleMania, not any other event.
Sorry, but anybody watching wwe over the age of 14 needs to reevaluate the decisions that brought them to that point
 

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I'm finding player interviews before/after games and during intermissions, are increasingly useless. Interviewers lob softball questions, like "tell us about teammate/coach" or "why are you so successful" or "tell us about these fans". I understand they aren't doing 60 minutes but they can do better.
 

shack

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I'm finding player interviews before/after games and during intermissions, are increasingly useless. Interviewers lob softball questions, like "tell us about teammate/coach" or "why are you so successful" or "tell us about these fans". I understand they aren't doing 60 minutes but they can do better.
Or the ones that start, "Would you have believed it if somebody told you 3 months that....?"
 

superstar_88

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There are a few things I see in sports, especially nowadays that piss me off cause they are nonsensical.

2) Similarly, PPG measures nothing. A guy scores 5 points in 1 game and 0 in 4 other games, so he averages 1 PPG. But he really doesn't. For 4 games he contributed nothing. The only reason to use PPG is to compare apples to apples - two people who have played a different number of games and have different point totals - who's scoring more? That's all PPG measures
PPG very relevant. You must have failed math.
 

superstar_88

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The three point game in hockey. Dumbest thing ever.

I also get irritated by comments like your #2, which takes unrealistic extremes to try to make a point.
3 pt games are not dumb. Having some games worth 2 and some worth 3 that is what's dumb. Should be 3 for regulation win. 2 for OT or shootout win and 1 for shootout or OT loss. Then there is incentive to win in regulation rather than play for tie to guarantee the point then fight for bonus point. That way if it goes to overtime you've already lost a point and could lose ground in the race even with a win. Makes pushing for a win in regulation relevant.

Or perhaps even better is to have all games worth 2 pts with overtime shootout wins worth 1.5 pts and overtime shootout loss worth .5 This way can compare easier with old records when ties were a point each.
 

shack

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Watching US Open golf and the announcers on Fox are the absolute worst. I can't decide who is the most boring. Brad Faxon or Paul Azinger or Curtis Strange and Joe Buck is out of his element in golf.

There are so many knowledgeable AND interesting announcers like Johnny Miller, Gary McCord, Nick Faldo, David Feherty, Gary Koch ("better than most"), Peter Kostas, Ian Baker Finch, Jim Nantz. Every one of those guys is way more interesting that the human sleeping pills on Fox.

Fox is dull, dull, dull. (Think Michael Palin describing his life as an accountant.)
 
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