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Police recommend Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu be indicted

Frankfooter

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Yet you constantly refuse to criticize Hamas for their terrorism, for their rejection of peace, or their massive corruption.
You constantly make this bald faced lie as if it justifies your support of apartheid.
I don't care how evil you think Hamas is, nothing they are doing is anywhere as evil as apartheid and the Gaza death camp.
Both sides should be held to the law by the ICC, the problem is you know that Israel is guilty of far worse crimes so you won't ever back a call for the law to be applied equally.
 

basketcase

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You constantly make this bald faced lie as if it justifies your support of apartheid.....
So show me the posts where you hold Hamas to task for their terrorism? You can't because you're too busy claiming they have given up on terrorism or claiming terrorism against Jews in the West Bank is justified.
Show me the posts where you criticize Hamas for their refusal to take part in peace talks? You can't because you agree with them.
Show me the posts where you called Hamas out for living a life of luxury while the poor in Gaza suffer?
To add, you've made hundreds of posts hating Israel for having an official religion yet avoid comment on Hamas, the ISLAMIC resistance, or the Palestinian constitution defining Palestine as an ISLAMIC state based on ISLAMIC laws.

You have made thousands of posts criticizing Israel for everything from arresting criminals to even existing yet you stay silent about the massive issues with the Palestinians.
 

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Frankfooter, I was expecting a bit more contrition on your part -- since this news confirms that Israel is a healthy democracy, and not a "theocracy."
A healthy democracy where the leader is corrupt? Thats your definition of healthy? And this on the heels of Olmert being convicted? Oi Vey
 

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Yet you constantly refuse to criticize Hamas for their terrorism, for their rejection of peace, or their massive corruption.
So what, Hamas is just a strawman argument. There is no peace on offer. That is the same as saying Hamas rejects the tooth fairy.
 

Frankfooter

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So show me the posts where you hold Hamas ....
Nothing Hamas has done is an excuse for Israeli apartheid, which is a far worse crime then anything you've accused Hamas of.
Your support of Israeli apartheid makes you more evil then Hamas.
Why do you refuse to criticize Israeli apartheid?
 

basketcase

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So you admit you have absolutely zero interest in criticizing Hamas. Thanks.

So much for your "both sides" claims.
 

Frankfooter

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So you admit you have absolutely zero interest in criticizing Hamas. Thanks.

So much for your "both sides" claims.
You're looking in the mirror again.
I'm the one saying that both sides have committed war crimes and both sides should be investigated and charged for war crimes.
I'm the one arguing for equal rights and you're the one defending apartheid.
 

Frankfooter

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Lock him up!
A few of Netanyahu's associates were locked up yesterday.
The worry should be whether he'll start another war to rescue himself politically again.
The prancing around with bits of an Iranian drone (while ignoring Israeli drone usage) could be the start.

For peace's sake, lets hope not.
 

basketcase

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You're looking in the mirror again.
I'm the one saying that both sides have committed war crimes and both sides should be investigated and charged for war crimes.....
But you completely refuse to criticize Hamas. You are a complete fraud.
 

basketcase

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A few of Netanyahu's associates were locked up yesterday.
The worry should be whether he'll start another war to rescue himself politically again.
The prancing around with bits of an Iranian drone (while ignoring Israeli drone usage) could be the start.

For peace's sake, lets hope not.
Yep, just another of your posts where you single out Israel and don't want to discuss how the leadership of both the PA and Hamas are massively corrupt and should be locked up.
 

Frankfooter

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But you completely refuse to criticize Hamas. You are a complete fraud.
Hamas commits war crimes, like Israel.
Both should be charged for all war crimes committed.

You're the fraud, just criticized them as I have done multiple times.
 

Frankfooter

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Yep, just another of your posts where you single out Israel and don't want to discuss how the leadership of both the PA and Hamas are massively corrupt and should be locked up.
Abbas is quite corrupt, Hamas appears less corrupt though they have committed war crimes.
But sure, lock up Abbas and charge both Hamas and Israel/Netanyahu for war crimes.
Like apartheid, the occupation, transfer of population and trying to gain land through war.
Charge both sides at the ICC.

Why won't you support the application of law and equal rights?
Why do you defend Israeli apartheid?
 

basketcase

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Hamas commits war crimes, like Israel.
Both should be charged for all war crimes committed.

You're the fraud, just criticized them as I have done multiple times.
So why do you avoid discussing Hamas' evil? You have refused to admit that Hamas is massively corrupt. You have refused to discuss the Hamas murder of some random Jews driving his car. You have refused to discuss why Hamas run Gaza is in such bad shape while the PA run West Bank is succeeding. You have refused to criticize Hamas for their rejection of peace. You have refused to criticize Hamas' rejection of your alleged idea for peace. You have refused to discuss Hamas being an ISLAMIC organization despite claiming to hate religious governments.

Your both sides crap is obviously you just looking for an out when called on your hate filled, violent beliefs.
 

Frankfooter

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Your both sides crap is obviously you just looking for an out when called on your hate filled, violent beliefs.
Calling for equal rights and the application of law to both sides is what you call 'hate filled, violent beliefs'?
That's pretty sad for you.

Join the 20th century, support equal rights.
Its the Canadian values.
 

basketcase

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Calling for equal rights and the application of law to both sides is what you call 'hate filled, violent beliefs'?
Because your absolute refusal to criticize Palestinians, especially Hamas, shows your claims are fraudulent. One would have to be an idiot to claim they support human rights while at the same time arguing that it is okay to attack people simply because of their religion.

And Canadian values include the right of democratic self determination, not forcing other countries into things they detest. What makes you think you have the right to tell the Palestinians what they need to do when even the UN rejects that idea?
 

Frankfooter

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Because your absolute refusal to criticize Palestinians?
I criticize both sides, but it will never be enough to satisfy your racist, Islamaphobic, anti-Palestinian desires.
And I'm ok with that and will read your constant attempts for me to join your hate party as the cries of a sad old man.

I continue to call for equal rights and support Canadian values, as most Canadians do.
We are a group of Jews in Canada from diverse backgrounds, occupations and affiliations who share a strong commitment to social justice and universal human rights. We come together in the belief that the broad spectrum of opinion among the Jewish population of this country is not reflected by those institutions that claim to represent Jewish communities as a whole. We further believe that individuals and groups within all communities should feel free to express their views on any issue of public concern without incurring accusations of disloyalty.

We have therefore resolved to promote the expression of alternative Jewish voices, particularly in respect of the grave situation in the Middle East, which threatens the future of Palestinians and Israelis as well as the stability of the whole region. We are guided by the following principles that:

1. Human rights are universal and indivisible and should be upheld without exception. This is as applicable in Israel and Occupied Palestine as it is elsewhere.
2. Palestinians and Israelis alike have the right to peaceful and secure lives.
3. Peace and stability require the willingness of all parties to the conflict to comply with international law.
4. There is no justification for any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, anti-Arab racism or lslamaphobia in any circumstance.
5. The battle against anti-Semitism is vital and is undermined whenever opposition to Israeli government policies is automatically branded as anti-Semitic.

We hereby reclaim the tradition of Jewish support for universal freedoms, human rights and social justice. The lessons we have learned from our own history compel us to speak out.

These principles are violated when we allow an occupying power to trample the human rights of an occupied people. Palestinian inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza, living under Israeli occupation and military blockade, face appalling living conditions, with desperately little hope for the future. At the same time, Palestinian Israelis are subjected to a range of discriminatory laws and regulations and are consequently unable to enjoy the same rights and freedoms that are enjoyed by Israeli Jews. This institutionalized discrimination has led increasing numbers of people around the world to identify Israel an apartheid state.

We therefore declare our support for a properly negotiated peace between the Israeli and Palestinian people and oppose any attempt by the Israeli government to impose its own solutions on the Palestinians. Furthermore, we support full equality for Palestinian Israelis.

To these ends, IJV supports the 2005 call issued by the Palestinian Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) National Committee for an international campaign of Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions to compel the State of Israel to comply with international law and support Palestinian Israelis’ human rights by

a. Ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the Wall;
b. Recognizing the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality; and
c. Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN resolution 194.
http://ijvcanada.org/about-ijv-a-propos/ijv-basis-of-unity-vji-entente-de-principes/
 

basketcase

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I criticize both sides,...
No you don't.

You criticize Israel, Israel's existence, and give reasons why Jewish civilians are valid targets.

On the other hand, you pretend Hamas is blameless, isn't corrupt, has given up terrorism, and wants peace. Hamas outright rejects your concept of equal rights yet you have refused to take them to task.

You are a fraud, no matter what your group of Jews say (and yes, it is racist the way you pretend this tiny group of Jews somehow makes your views more valid).

And in case you missed it, Canadian values declare Hamas a terrorist organization and maintain strong relationship with Israel. Canadian values also favour democracy, not forcing your racist elitist values on other people.
 

Frankfooter

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And in case you missed it, Canadian values declare Hamas a terrorist organization and maintain strong relationship with Israel. Canadian values also favour democracy, not forcing your racist elitist values on other people.
Let me again refer to IJV and their poll that shows that Canadians back the IJV's views, as do I.
The Canadian government is not supporting the will of Canadians on this issue.

represent Independent Jewish Voices Canada. We are a national Jewish human rights organization whose mandate is to promote a just resolution to the conflict in Israel and Palestine through the application of international law and respect for the human rights of all parties. We are pleased to announce that this survey shows that IJV’s values are in line with those of most Canadians and especially of Canadian Jews.

The results of this survey are consistent with those of other recent surveys in Canada, the US and of British Jews in Canada. They all show growing sympathy for Palestinians and rising criticism of the Israeli Government.

As a Jewish Canadian, I especially want to highlight the disconnect between the responses of Jewish Canadians with the narrative promoted by pro-Israel lobby groups like the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA).

We found that Canadians who identified as “Jewish” were slightly more likely to hold a negative than a positive opinion of the Government of Israel (39% vs. 32%). They were also far more likely to view the Canadian media as biased toward Israel (48%) than as biased toward Palestinians (7%).

And they generally shared the overwhelming view of other Canadians that criticism of Israeli government policies are like those of any other country, and are not necessarily anti-Semitic (93% vs. 7% who believe it is anti-Semitic).

Those results echo those in a 2015 national survey of British Jews, which found that, in spite of being highly identified with Israel, 68% agreed with the statement “I feel a sense of despair every time Israel approves further expansion of settlements.” Almost three-quarters (72% vs. 14% against) agreed that Palestinians have “rights to a land of their own.” And the majority (58% vs. 22% against) believe “Israel will be seen as an ‘apartheid state’ if it tries to retain control over borders which include more Arabs than Jews.”.

This study shows that, even Jewish Canadians do not agree with the Canadian government’s uncritical support of Israel. CIJA has far more money than we do. But it has never commissioned a representative survey of the Canadian Jews it claims to represent, perhaps because it already knows that Canadian Jews do not share their agenda.

We challenge the Canadian Government and all political parties to listen to the people, and to stop enabling Israel’s unjust policies. We expect you to hold Israel to the same standards of human rights and justice that we expect of all other countries.
http://ijvcanada.org/2017/canadians-polled-on-ispal-ijv-statement/
 

basketcase

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More spamming from you to justify your hatred.

Canada considers Hamas a terrorist entity and has a strong relationship with Israel.

Hamas is a religious totalitarian group that is massively corrupt and dedicated to violence, things which are completely against Canadian values but you happily support them simply because you share their goal of destroying Israel.
 
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