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Frankfooter

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You'll ignore the results as usual so what's the point?
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I didn't think you'd enter into a debate you'd lose that easily.

Another day in apartheid Israel, under brutal military occupation.
BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) -- As Palestinian children were heading to school on Wednesday morning, Israeli forces raided the central occupied West Bank village of al-Mughayyir, in the Ramallah district, injuring eight people with rubber-coated steel bullets while dozens of others, some kindergarten children, were suffered from tear gas inhalation.

Local sources told Ma’an that Israeli forces raided the village as students were heading to their schools, and local residents were heading to work.
Soldiers deployed at the village’s schools, kindergarten, local mosque, and several homes.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779958

How does the law protect Palestinians here?
 

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I didn't think you'd enter into a debate you'd lose that easily.

Another day in apartheid Israel, under brutal military occupation.

https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779958

How does the law protect Palestinians here?
So no response to what I posted then. The law you posted applies and has been used against everyone and is not racist. Palestinian laws banning Jews from owning land are racist.


As usual your complaints are that Israeli forces dare arrest violent Palestinians.
 

Frankfooter

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So no response to what I posted then. The law you posted applies and has been used against everyone and is not racist. Palestinian laws banning Jews from owning land are racist.
In theory, in practice not so much.
The law substantially strengthens and expands the powers of the police and the General Security Services (GSS, or Shabak/Shin Bet) to suppress legitimate protest activities by Palestinian citizens of Israel and Palestinian residents of the OPT. It adds to a pre-existing system that provides fertile ground for the security agencies to employ illegal methods in the interrogation room, which includes a “temporary order” that exempts the security agencies from producing audio or visual documentation of interrogations of security detainees. The Knesset extended this order, which creates conditions that may facilitate the torture of security suspects during interrogation, in July 2015, for the third time.
I'm sure you don't find any problems with that.

Or probably with the next one.
Mandatory minimum sentences for convicted stone-throwers - Amendment No. 120 to the Israeli Penal Code


Theme:Criminal Law and Procedures
Status:Active
Year:2015
Description:
This new law imposes mandatory minimum prison sentences on persons convicted of stone-throwing or similar acts. The minimum sentence is set at “one-fifth of the maximum sentence” – either 10 or 20 years – which equates to either two or four years. Mandatory minimum sentences fail to account for the individual circumstances of each case.

The new law essentially targets Palestinians (the alleged stone-throwers) who are either citizens of Israel or residents of East Jerusalem, and who are all brought before Israeli civil courts. The law is officially a “temporary order” and is valid for three years. Very few Israeli criminal laws contain mandatory minimum punishments as they remove judges’ discretion in imposing punishment; thus, this new law is a severe measure. In addition, although the majority of the stone-throwers are young people, the law does not allow judges to give reasonable weight to the option of rehabilitation.

The new law follows the earlier enactment of a related law that added a new 10-year maximum sentence for persons convicted of stone-throwing or similar acts without requiring proof of intent to cause harm. The pre-existing maximum sentence of 20 years applies in cases in which the courts rule there was such proof of intent.
Only 64 more to go.
 

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In theory, in practice not so much.


I'm sure you don't find any problems with that.

Or probably with the next one.


Only 64 more to go.
Sad that you have a problem with a law that law against throwing stones at civilians, something that you have referred to as terrorism (at least when Jews do it, when Palestinians do it you consider it just fine). And just like the first one, it applies to Israeli Jews, Israeli Arabs, and Palestinians so has nothing to do with race.

And why is it that you don;t want to talk about the racist PA laws banning Jews from owning land, the open Jew hatred of Hamas? Is it the same reason why you keep pretending Hamas are former terrorists and not stealing millions meant for the people of Gaza? Is it the same reason you think Jewish civilians in the West Bank are valid targets?
 

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I didn't think you'd enter into a debate you'd lose that easily
Frankie, who's losing the daily war between Israel and the Palestinians??!!

Your side is getting your ass kicked on a daily basis, and then some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Frankie, who's losing the daily war between Israel and the Palestinians??!!

Your side is getting your ass kicked on a daily basis, and then some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not true. They are kicking their own asses every day, the same thing they've been doing for 90 years.
 

Frankfooter

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Frankie, who's losing the daily war between Israel and the Palestinians??!!

Your side is getting your ass kicked on a daily basis, and then some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Israel has won all the battles, but they're in a position to lose the war through their own greed.
Now that the two state solution is dead, Bolton now agrees by the way, Palestinians have started arguing for equal rights in what is now apartheid Israel.
That's a battle Israel can't win.
 

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Israel has won all the battles, but they're in a position to lose the war through their own greed.
Now that the two state solution is dead, Bolton now agrees by the way, Palestinians have started arguing for equal rights in what is now apartheid Israel.
That's a battle Israel can't win.
You are dreaming. Now that the Sunni countries and Israel have a common enemy in Iran the Palestinians may have lost the last best chance they have for a sovereign state on the terms most favorable to them. Whatever deal they make today is unlikely to be as favorable as it would have been a few years ago. Very unfortunate but as usual the Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
 

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You are dreaming. Now that the Sunni countries and Israel have a common enemy in Iran the Palestinians may have lost the last best chance they have for a sovereign state on the terms most favorable to them. Whatever deal they make today is unlikely to be as favorable as it would have been a few years ago. Very unfortunate but as usual the Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
You are acting as if the two state solution is possible.
We are talking about the one state solution.
 

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Israel has won all the battles, but they're in a position to lose the war through their own greed.
Now that the two state solution is dead, Bolton now agrees by the way, Palestinians have started arguing for equal rights in what is now apartheid Israel.
That's a battle Israel can't win.
The Palestinian leadership has lost all the battles due to their refusal to accept that Israel will continue to exist.

And keep on arguing for a farce that your own poll shows only 10% of Palestinians support. Shows quite clearly you don't care about Palestinians, only the destruction of Israel. Of course your continued support for Hamas terrorists and claims that Jews in the West Bank are valid targets makes it clear that your interest isn't human rights at all.
 

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You are acting as if the two state solution is possible.
We are talking about the one state solution.
No one is talking about a One State solution. The Palestinians hate it. The Israelis hate it. The UN hates it. Your boys in Hamas absolutely detest it.
 

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No one is talking about a One State solution. The Palestinians hate it. The Israelis hate it. The UN hates it. Your boys in Hamas absolutely detest it.
A two state solution is the ONLY possible one to achieve anything positive.

But of coarse is NOT the solution favoured by those who's main goal is the destruction of Israel,... not to mention any names,... not required.
 

Frankfooter

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No one is talking about a One State solution. The Palestinians hate it. The Israelis hate it. The UN hates it. Your boys in Hamas absolutely detest it.
Yes, everyone hates it, especially this present apartheid one state solution.
The problem is that its already here.

Israel has already enacted the apartheid, one state solution.
 

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Yes, everyone hates it, especially this present apartheid one state solution.
The problem is that its already here.

Israel has already enacted the apartheid, one state solution.
Keep making up all the shit you want to justify your hatred of the only country that happens to be majority Jewish.

What makes you think the Palestinians should do what you want even though 90% of them and the terrorist group you continually fawn over outright reject the concept? Sounds like you never moved past the Victorian Era belief that you know better than non-Westerners.
 

Frankfooter

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Keep making up all the shit you want to justify your hatred of the only country that happens to be majority Jewish.
The big problem for you is that Palestinians are the majority in the present one state, apartheid Israel, counting Palestinians and 'Arab Israelis'.
That's why its apartheid and not a democracy, because its not a Jewish majority.

You really should have pushed for the two state solution instead of supporting every single settlement and bit of colonization.
 

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Not according to the UN but thanks for once again showing that the Palestinian leadership are shooting themselves in the foot.
Bolton says its dead, the PA says its dead and Netanyahu says its dead.
If you're going to push for the UN to have its ways you're going to have to start demanding that Israel abide by all UN and UN SC resolutions.
You going to go that way?
 

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Palestinians have started arguing for equal rights in what is now apartheid Israel.
That's a battle Israel can't win
They will easily win because the US and EU cannot afford to lose their strongest ally in the middle-east, which is Israel
 

basketcase

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Bolton says its dead,...
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First off, does Bolton represent your views?

Secondly, the UN disagrees. You keep claiming minor bodies in the UN speak truth but then you ignore the UNGA and UNSC on this.

And still you have this racist belief that your ideas are more important than what the Palestinians think. Only 10% of Palestinians support the farce of an idea you promote but in your elitist ways you think they are incapable of making decisions.
 
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