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There is a database of racist laws here:
https://www.adalah.org/en/content/view/7771...
p.s. Did you read any of those? Using that list as proof of anything is a joke. Most of them are the exact same as calling Canada apartheid because minorities get stopped by police more often.

The only law they list that comes close is the land law that allows the JNF (a private organization) policy of preferring to lease land to Jews. Considering the PA considers it a major crime to sell land to Jews (up until a couple years ago was a capital crime) Israel once again is shown to be flawed but still fare better than the leaders you support.
 

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p.s Israel is not apartheid no matter what you conspiracy theorist and dictators claim. The only race based laws are on the part of the Palestinians who refuse to accept living with or near Jews. .
Yes, race based laws mean Israel is apartheid.
Thanks for confirming that.

One of Israel's own political parties says Israel is apartheid.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...easures-in-palestinian-territories-apartheid/
South Africa says Israel is apartheid.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...l-is-only-apartheid-state-in-the-world-today/
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/w...inian-people-apartheid-occupation-english.pdf
Even Phil McNasty supports Israeli apartheid.
Until Palestinians finally show they can behave themselves and perhaps are willing to come to some type of peace agreement I will continue to support apartheid.
Ex Israeli PM Olmert warning about apartheid 11 years ago.
In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, Ehud Olmert said Israel was "finished" if it forced the Palestinians into a struggle for equal rights.
If the two-state solution collapsed, he said, Israel would "face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights, and as soon as that happens, the state of**Israel**is finished". Israel's supporters abroad would quickly turn against such a state, he said.
"The Jewish organisations, which were our power base in America, will be the first to come out against us because they will say they cannot support a state that does not support democracy and equal voting rights for all its residents," he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/nov/30/israel
Israel’s Justice Minister says Israel is apartheid.
Israel’s Justice Minister endorses apartheid — the Jewish state ‘at the expense of equality
http://mondoweiss.net/2018/02/minister-endorses-apartheid/
 

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Does this board have a rule against spamming the exact same bullshist in multiple threads?

I guess it just means you have no response to facts.
 

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Does this board have a rule against spamming the exact same bullshist in multiple threads?

I guess it just means you have no response to facts.
Have you ever read your posts?
You refuse to respond to facts, reports, quotes, evidence, stats, human rights reports or international law.

The fact is that Israel is apartheid and you support it.
 

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Have you ever read your posts?...
Is this you excuse for cut and pasting the exact same post to multiple threads?

The fact is you have a much different standard for Jews than you do for Muslims. I just don't know whether it's because you hate Jews or have racist low expectations for Muslims.
 

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Is this you excuse for cut and pasting the exact same post to multiple threads?
Yes, when you make blanket and wrong statements and refuse to accept evidence contrary to your views then copy and pasting the evidence is a reasonable response.
 

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Yes, when you make blanket and wrong statements and refuse to accept evidence contrary to your views then copy and pasting the evidence is a reasonable response.
You should take your own advice.

So which is it? Do you hate Jews or do you think Palestinians are incapable of moral choices?
 

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You should take your own advice.

So which is it? Do you hate Jews or do you think Palestinians are incapable of moral choices?
I don't like apartheid policy.
This is about identifying and stopping racist practices, like your support of apartheid.
All people, including Israelis and Palestinians, deserve to live in peace with equal rights.

Support Canadian values, stop backing apartheid.
 

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I don't like apartheid policy.....
And it doesn't exist in Israel.

Sadly you continue with the elitist belief that your opinion is more important than the people actually involved. Palestinians (and Israelis) hate the 1-state concept. In fact Hamas who you openly support is violently opposed to the idea but somehow you still support those terrorists.
 

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It does, according to the UN, South Africa,...
Not the UN just a group of dictators who hired a conspiracy nut.

Sadly your entire line of arguments boils down to spamming a report from a bunch of brutal dictators including an actual ICC criminal, a massively corrupt ANC government, and a fringe Jewish group. That and your obsessive hatred of Israel and ignoring of far worse issues from Arab and Palestinian leadership.
 

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Not the UN just a group of dictators who hired a conspiracy nut.

Sadly your entire line of arguments boils down to spamming a report from a bunch of brutal dictators including an actual ICC criminal, a massively corrupt ANC government, and a fringe Jewish group. That and your obsessive hatred of Israel and ignoring of far worse issues from Arab and Palestinian leadership.
Your entire line arguments is shooting the messenger at all times.
You're now attacking:
the UN
South Africa
IJV
The Israeli government

Shall we keep adding to that list?
Given your lame blanket denials and your total lack of ability to respond to the charges, its time to see who else says Israel is apartheid.

Jimmy Carter
https://www.haaretz.com/1.4938644
Another Israeli NGO, Ir Amim
http://www.altro.co.il/newsletters/...66ec4480155c282ab9e4bf108ec809c5dd89d:1261228
Nobel Peace Prize winner Bishop Desmond Tutu
A South African University, HSRC
https://web.archive.org/web/20090622083122/http://www.hsrc.ac.za/Document-3227.phtml
 

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Your entire line arguments is shooting the messenger at all times....
I've destroyed your 'message' from a factual basis many times and you simply revert to your dictators, corrupt governments, and fringe groups.

Israel is not apartheid. Their legal system is based on citizenship and 20% of those people are the exact same racial/cultural group as the people you claim are being racially oppressed.


But your repeated lie a bout a rejected report to the UN just show how weak your hate filled arguments are.
 

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I've destroyed your 'message' from a factual basis many times
No, you shoot the messenger with lame insults repeatedly.
But you cannot answer to the charges of apartheid laid by all those accusing.
That's why you shoot the messenger, because their is no defence of a state that is so clearly apartheid, with separate roads, legal system, citizenship, human rights, education, social services.....

All you can do is either shoot the messenger or try to change the subject to those Palestinians living as 'Israeli Arabs'.
All you've done is shown that Israel is apartheid, through your total failure to defend the actual charges.
 

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No, you shoot the messenger with lame insults repeatedly.....
Strange that you think calling out the nasty governments that commissioned the report (including an actual ICC war criminal) is lame.

You keep lying that there is some UN report and you keep lying about Israel being apartheid even though Israel's laws are exact same for Jewish, Muslim, or Christian citizens. Either you don't know what apartheid was or you are happy to repeat any lie against Israel.
 

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Strange that you think calling out the nasty governments that commissioned the report (including an actual ICC war criminal) is lame.
Given that Israel is presently under investigation by the ICC for war crimes and apartheid, will you apply that same standard to everything that Israel states forever on if they are charged with war crimes?
Unless you give me your word that you would, then I have to say your claim is hypocritical and dishonest.
 

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Given that Israel is presently under investigation by the ICC ..
Actually the ICC is weighing whether to conduct an investigation.

And speaking of consistent standards, it is amazing how you fawn all over a group of dictators and actual ICC criminals while claiming to be for human rights and rule of law. Obviously the only issues in the world you care to comment on involve Israel (and occasionally the US).
 

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Actually the ICC is weighing whether to conduct an investigation.
Will you answer the question?

Given that Israel is presently under investigation by the ICC for war crimes and apartheid, will you apply that same standard to everything that Israel states forever on if they are charged with war crimes?
Unless you give me your word that you would, then I have to say your claim is hypocritical and dishonest.
 

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Will you answer the question?

Given that Israel is presently under investigation by the ICC for war crimes and apartheid, will you apply that same standard to everything that Israel states forever on if they are charged with war crimes?
Unless you give me your word that you would, then I have to say your claim is hypocritical and dishonest.
You are a complete fraud. You were called explicitly on an actual ICC war criminal being invited to Turkey and your only response was to justify it since Turkey isn't an ICC member.

I have no problem criticizing Israel. I realize that it lies well below Canada in many ways. Sadly you place your hateful goal of Israel's destruction ahead of criticizing the massive issues with the Palestinian leadership. You continually praise and justify the actions from racist terrorists in Hamas so you have no claim to morality.
 

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You are a complete fraud. You were called explicitly on an actual ICC war criminal being invited to Turkey and your only response was to justify it since Turkey isn't an ICC member.
There you go trying to avoid answering the question.
Now that you are putting weight behind ICC findings its time for you to make your position clear.

Given that Israel is presently under investigation by the ICC for war crimes and apartheid, will you apply that same standard to everything that Israel states forever on if they are charged with war crimes?
Unless you give me your word that you would, then I have to say your claim is hypocritical and dishonest.
 
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