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"I feel they were model Christians," mother of man accused of torturing his 13 kids

versitile1

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"I feel they were model Christians," mother of man accused of torturing his 13 kids

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-siblings-allowed-eat-once-day-shower-n838671

From the article:

Betty Turpin told the Southern California News Group on Wednesday that her son had told her he had so many kids because God wanted him to, and that he shared her Pentecostal Christian faith but was not affiliated with a church in California.

“I feel they were model Christians,” the elder Turpin said. “It’s hard to believe all of this. Over the years, the Lord knows what happened.”
Disgusting.
 

oldjones

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I'm curious what you think makes this repugnant story about a pair of twisted child abusers a fit for Politics, Religion and International Affairs. Because God, Christ and a church got mentioned? By a close relative?

If TERB has a place for cut and pastes about mental illness surely it's the Lounge where we muse and cluck disgustedly about stuff no one can do anything much about.

If you really want this to be about Religion rather than one particular pair of crazies, it's on you to make that general case.
 

oldjones

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Go complain to a Mod.

The posters that need to see this hang out here, not in the lounge.
Why does anyone need to see this? I won't ask you to insult anyone by naming names.

You can post what you want where you want. The Mods run their Board as they choose. I asked 'why post it here?': In the particular discussion Forum devoted to aspects of group behaviour on the largest scale, and what influences them. Pardon me for imagining any such relevance mattered to you.

Anyway it's your party and we're here, tell us why we needed this.
 

oldjones

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Ask NBC news. Look, I know better than to condemn one's actions based solely on their religion. Others here, not so much.
You seemed to think NBC needed your extra assistance. And our eyeballs and ears. Why?

It might help if you connected your gratuitous self-excuse about condemning people on religious grounds to the original story somehow. I wonder how that fits with the "Disgusting" that ended your OP.
 

versitile1

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You seemed to think NBC needed your extra assistance. And our eyeballs and ears. Why?

It might help if you connected your gratuitous self-excuse about condemning people on religious grounds to the original story somehow.
You chose to open the link, and you chose to reply. You could ignore (like I do with those airplane/video game/storm videos), or report if it bothers you. By continuing to reply, you are the one keeping the thread at the top of the page.

And, my point was that other posters start threads trying to pass off the actions of individuals as a way of demonizing a whole religion, I was putting the "shoe on the other foot", as it were. If you missed that, well, that's too bad.
 

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I'm curious what you think makes this repugnant story about a pair of twisted child abusers a fit for Politics, Religion and International Affairs. Because God, Christ and a church got mentioned? By a close relative?

If TERB has a place for cut and pastes about mental illness surely it's the Lounge where we muse and cluck disgustedly about stuff no one can do anything much about.

If you really want this to be about Religion rather than one particular pair of crazies, it's on you to make that general case.
If the parents were Muslim the Alt Right Trump Supporters of this forum would be frothing at the mouth and posting about it non-stop to justify their views about Islam, immigration, etc.

When the parents turn out to be Christian, though, their behaviour is viewed as a mental health issue and barely worthy of discussion.

Interesting but not unexpected.
 

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Frankfooter

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Agreed,... and with the obvious religious connections,... also obviously belongs in this section.

But also obvious,... some here can't read,... and or support oppressive religions.
But doesn't this also mean that Christianity is a repressive religion?
 

oldjones

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If the parents were Muslim the Alt Right Trump Supporters of this forum would be frothing at the mouth and posting about it non-stop to justify their views about Islam, immigration, etc.

When the parents turn out to be Christian, though, their behaviour is viewed as a mental health issue and barely worthy of discussion.

Interesting but not unexpected.
Can't and shouldn't put words in the mouths of Islamophobes, or Trumpkins. But Christian, Animist, Taoist or atheist, clearly this is a mental health matter concerning a couple, not a characteristic of religion in general or in particular.

All it speaks to is the helpless resort to such 'explanations' when confronted with evil greater than we can comprehend.
 

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The good news is that all 13 children are still walking and talking.

Meanwhile, 3 "brown" and one "black" women have been murdered by domestic violence in and around the GTA in the first 2 weeks in 2018.
 

versitile1

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The good news is that all 13 children are still walking and talking.

Meanwhile, 3 "brown" and one "black" women have been murdered by domestic violence in and around the GTA in the first 2 weeks in 2018.
And a possible serial killer has been apprehended. Bruce McArthur, 66, has been charged with 2 counts of 1st degree murder, and police believe there may be more victims. Anyone wanna guess his race?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/bruce-mcarthur-court-appearance-1.4494624
 

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But doesn't this also mean that Christianity is a repressive religion?
Obviously, I cannot think of any religion that is as oppressive as what these couples kids were subjected to. Most of us who are open minded know that this torture was committed by two fundamentalists that followed certain principles that had nothing to do with Christianity. We see the same ideology among certain Muslims who think that they have the power to dictate what their family members can or cannot do. But unlike the Muslim haters, we are much more broadminded not to throw all Muslims under the bus, based on the abhorrent actions of a few Muslim culprits.
 

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Trump is also coming out as anti-abortion today as well.
That's part of the repressive side of christianity, if Trump really can be considered christian.
 

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