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Toronto Raptors president Masai Ujiri, the first African-born executive in the NBA, has spoken out against Donald Trump after the U.S. President reportedly made disparaging comments towards immigration.

On Thursday night, there were reports that Trump referred to some African nations and Haiti as “s***hole countries” while discussing immigration policies at a White House meeting.

On Friday, Ujiri addressed those comments in an interview with ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.

“This summer, I went to Kigali, and Nairobi and Lagos, and I went to Kampala and Abidjan and Dakar and Johannesburg and I saw great cities, and great people,” Ujiri told ESPN. “And I went to visit the refugee camp in Dadaab, and I met good people and good families with plenty of hope. If those places are being referred to as s***hole, go visit those places, and go meet those people.

“I don’t think it’s fair, and I don’t think it’s what inspiring leadership can be. What sense of hope are we giving people if you are calling where they live — and where they’re from — a s***hole?”

Ujiri was born in Nigeria and moved to the U.S. to play college basketball in 1993. After retiring as a player in 2002, he began work as a scout with the Orlando Magic. In 2010, the Denver Nuggets named Ujiri the first African-born general manager in league history. Ujiri joined the Raptors as GM in 2013.

Ujiri is also director of the NBA’s Basketball Without Borders Africa program and the Giants of African program, which promote the sport across the continent.

“I’ve spent a lot of time in the United States and Canada and I am grateful for the opportunities that I’ve been given by people, and the game of basketball, and the NBA,” he said. “As leaders, I think we have to give people in many places a chance to have success, not continue to put those people down.

“We have to inspire people and give them a sense of hope. We need to bring people along, not ridicule and tear them down. This cannot be the message that we accept from the leader of the free world.”




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Toronto Raptors president Masai Ujiri, the first African-born executive in the NBA, has spoken out against Donald Trump after the U.S. President reportedly made disparaging comments towards immigration.

On Thursday night, there were reports that Trump referred to some African nations and Haiti as “s***hole countries” while discussing immigration policies at a White House meeting.

On Friday, Ujiri addressed those comments in an interview with ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.

“This summer, I went to Kigali, and Nairobi and Lagos, and I went to Kampala and Abidjan and Dakar and Johannesburg and I saw great cities, and great people,” Ujiri told ESPN. “And I went to visit the refugee camp in Dadaab, and I met good people and good families with plenty of hope. If those places are being referred to as s***hole, go visit those places, and go meet those people.

“I don’t think it’s fair, and I don’t think it’s what inspiring leadership can be. What sense of hope are we giving people if you are calling where they live — and where they’re from — a s***hole?”

Ujiri was born in Nigeria and moved to the U.S. to play college basketball in 1993. After retiring as a player in 2002, he began work as a scout with the Orlando Magic. In 2010, the Denver Nuggets named Ujiri the first African-born general manager in league history. Ujiri joined the Raptors as GM in 2013.

Ujiri is also director of the NBA’s Basketball Without Borders Africa program and the Giants of African program, which promote the sport across the continent.

“I’ve spent a lot of time in the United States and Canada and I am grateful for the opportunities that I’ve been given by people, and the game of basketball, and the NBA,” he said. “As leaders, I think we have to give people in many places a chance to have success, not continue to put those people down.

“We have to inspire people and give them a sense of hope. We need to bring people along, not ridicule and tear them down. This cannot be the message that we accept from the leader of the free world.”




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Translation of Ujiri's remarks:

1. There are some pretty good basketball players we'd like to recruit from Africa, hopefully for cheaper than what we would have to pay American born college prospects.

2. Since a lot of people in Africa live in shitholes, I think it would be nice to give them some hope that maybe they wouldn't be living in a shithole some day.

p.s. Please forget about about my repeated fines for using obscenities at my news conferences. That sort of thing would have been A-OK in shithole countries.
 

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Translation of Ujiri's remarks:

1. There are some pretty good basketball players we'd like to recruit from Africa, hopefully for cheaper than what we would have to pay American born college prospects.

2. Since a lot of people in Africa live in shitholes, I think it would be nice to give them some hope that maybe they wouldn't be living in a shithole some day.

p.s. Please forget about about my repeated fines for using obscenities at my news conferences. That sort of thing would have been A-OK in shithole countries.
That is not a translation... it is a perversion from your twisted mind. Ujiri is a class act and spoke a clear truth, which needs no interpretation by the likes of you. Trump is a terrible role model and he said so. Ujiri is also a great GM and has put together the best B-ball team this town has ever had. Meanwhile Trump's "team" is in shambles. The White House is currently a shithole.
 

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That is not a translation... it is a perversion from your twisted mind. Ujiri is a class act and spoke a clear truth, which needs no interpretation by the likes of you. Trump is a terrible role model and he said so. Ujiri is also a great GM and has put together the best B-ball team this town has ever had. Meanwhile Trump's "team" is in shambles. The White House is currently a shithole.
Seems to me that Ujiri is speaking up to criticize Trump's use of specific crude language. A bit galling coming from someone fined multiple times by the NBA for using crude language in press conferences. You want Ujiri to be judged instead on the results the Raptors have achieved while he's been GM? OK, are you prepared to approach Trump the same way? My prediction is that you won't want to be consistent.
 

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Again, this is only reported, and remains unverified.
The chances that someone would make up this accusation are incredibly low, there were a group of senators in that room, remember.
Making up a quote like that where there are witnesses to dispute it would be very stupid.
Its also quite telling how the republican senators have tried to avoid outright denying Trump said it while also not publicly stating that he did say it and therefore getting in Trump's bad books.

The NYT has a good rundown on all of Trump's history of racism.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...2339F881A94BF857BD8&gwt=pay&assetType=opinion
Basically, you really are supporting a racist.
 

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Seems to me that Ujiri is speaking up to criticize Trump's use of specific crude language. A bit galling coming from someone fined multiple times by the NBA for using crude language in press conferences. You want Ujiri to be judged instead on the results the Raptors have achieved while he's been GM? OK, are you prepared to approach Trump the same way? My prediction is that you won't want to be consistent.
Ujiri might swear but he doesn't infer racist intent. And Trump is a failure in both words and deeds. Don't confuse a temporary bull market and a tax handout to the 1% as a successful economic policy.
 

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There were reports that Fred Trump marched with the KKK in the late 1920's, Vice News reports that he may have been only a bystander. It was part of the times, Woodrow Wilson was an openly racist President. It undermines his efforts to prevent another WW. A backlash against blacks moving to Northern cities under his term and reached its violent peaked in 1921. Fred Trump bought up land in Queens and made a huge fortune through development. A civil rights suit was filed against the Trump family by the DOJ, Donald Trump was 27 at the time. Their lawyer Roy Cohn filed a successful counter-suit. After that the Trump family became major obstructionists to fair housing in NYC, spoofed on the show All in the Family.

Roy Cohn was Donald Trump's mentor, what we are watching is the mantra that Cohn lived by. Always win and never apologize for anything.
 

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Flushing Meadows was part of Fred Trump's land holdings. He probably became a billionaire from that alone. Shae Stadium was built there along with the 1964 Expo. In 1978, the USTA built their new facility there, the Trump family must have made out like thieves.
 

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Ujiri might swear but he doesn't infer racist intent. And Trump is a failure in both words and deeds. Don't confuse a temporary bull market and a tax handout to the 1% as a successful economic policy.
To be clear, are you prepared to judge Trump by the outcomes of his presidency, rather than by whether he uses crude words? I doubt you'd like Trump any better if he used the most cautious of language.

p.s. I can't buy the idea that calling places that no one would choose to live "shitholes" is racist. Insensitive, yes. Racist, no. Nor is preferring immigrants from successful countries with well trained work forces.
 

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To be clear, are you prepared to judge Trump by the outcomes of his presidency, rather than by whether he uses crude words? I doubt you'd like Trump any better if he used the most cautious of language.

p.s. I can't buy the idea that calling places that no one would choose to live "shitholes" is racist. Insensitive, yes. Racist, no. Nor is preferring immigrants from successful countries with well trained work forces.
Calling a country a 'shithole' isn't racist, what makes it racist is stating you don't want any immigrants from 'shithole countries' like Africa, but you do want more from places like Norway. If you don't understand the demographic basis to those claims then you may not be as bright as Trump.
 

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Would someone inform me what nationality/nationalities Masai Ujiri has?

He came to the U.S. on a student visa (two and half years), then was in Europe (six years), then briefly back to Nigeria, then to the U.S.A (six years), then to Canada (two years), back to the U.S. (three years), then back to Canada (going on five years).
 

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To be clear, are you prepared to judge Trump by the outcomes of his presidency, rather than by whether he uses crude words? I doubt you'd like Trump any better if he used the most cautious of language.

p.s. I can't buy the idea that calling places that no one would choose to live "shitholes" is racist. Insensitive, yes. Racist, no. Nor is preferring immigrants from successful countries with well trained work forces.
If this was Trump's first offence, he would probably get a pass, but this is the same guy who felt the need to spread equal blame on the antifa ptotesters after a young woman was murdered by a racist terrorist.... and the same guy who is loved by the KKK.... and the same guy who was charged with discriminatory renting practices in New York, years ago.
 

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If this was Trump's first offence, he would probably get a pass, but this is the same guy who felt the need to spread equal blame on the antifa ptotesters after a young woman was murdered by a racist terrorist.... and the same guy who is loved by the KKK.... and the same guy who was charged with discriminatory renting practices in New York, years ago.
Well, you went out of your way to avoid a clear answer, but I take you to be saying that you will judge Trump on his crude words, rather than his results. Not me. I'll be judging him on his results (or judging those who prevent the results he seeks).

Let me ask what you think the point is of this attempt to paint him as a racist. Even if he were a racist, would that make it bad policy to increase border security at the Mexico border? Would that make it bad policy to admit immigrants based on a merit system (like we do in Canada, subject to refugee admissions), instead of primarily based on chain migration? Would that make it bad policy to address trade imbalances and unfair trade practices which have decimated middle class manufacturing jobs by revisiting trade agreements? It seems that his opponents do not have winning alternative policy positions on these issues, so they try to attack the messenger instead.

From my perspective, this perpetual attempt to brand him as a racist is nothing more than electioneering. It's an attempt to drum up more minority votes for Democratic candidates in the mid terms. It's race baiting and identity politics, pure and simple.

Unless someone thinks that Democrats are somehow the only proper governing party (because they are just better human beings somehow?), I don't understand this need to try and hang a label on Trump that just won't seem to stick on a 70 year old man with connections and friends in just about every demographic group imaginable. There's no traction here. The only people believing the racism charge are those who were already never-Trumpers.
 

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Well, you went out of your way to avoid a clear answer, but I take you to be saying that you will judge Trump on his crude words, rather than his results. Not me. I'll be judging him on his results (or judging those who prevent the results he seeks).

Let me ask what you think the point is of this attempt to paint him as a racist. Even if he were a racist, would that make it bad policy to increase border security at the Mexico border? Would that make it bad policy to admit immigrants based on a merit system (like we do in Canada, subject to refugee admissions), instead of primarily based on chain migration? Would that make it bad policy to address trade imbalances and unfair trade practices which have decimated middle class manufacturing jobs by revisiting trade agreements? It seems that his opponents do not have winning alternative policy positions on these issues, so they try to attack the messenger instead.

From my perspective, this perpetual attempt to brand him as a racist is nothing more than electioneering. It's an attempt to drum up more minority votes for Democratic candidates in the mid terms. It's race baiting and identity politics, pure and simple.

Unless someone thinks that Democrats are somehow the only proper governing party (because they are just better human beings somehow?), I don't understand this need to try and hang a label on Trump that just won't seem to stick on a 70 year old man with connections and friends in just about every demographic group imaginable. There's no traction here. The only people believing the racism charge are those who were already never-Trumpers.
Because he's enacting racist policies like his attempts at the Muslim ban. He doesn't like Muslims and Mexicans for a start and the white supremacists love him.
He's a racist and acting like a racist in ways that will affect the country.
 

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Well, you went out of your way to avoid a clear answer, but I take you to be saying that you will judge Trump on his crude words, rather than his results. Not me. I'll be judging him on his results (or judging those who prevent the results he seeks).

Let me ask what you think the point is of this attempt to paint him as a racist. Even if he were a racist, would that make it bad policy to increase border security at the Mexico border? Would that make it bad policy to admit immigrants based on a merit system (like we do in Canada, subject to refugee admissions), instead of primarily based on chain migration? Would that make it bad policy to address trade imbalances and unfair trade practices which have decimated middle class manufacturing jobs by revisiting trade agreements? It seems that his opponents do not have winning alternative policy positions on these issues, so they try to attack the messenger instead.

From my perspective, this perpetual attempt to brand him as a racist is nothing more than electioneering. It's an attempt to drum up more minority votes for Democratic candidates in the mid terms. It's race baiting and identity politics, pure and simple.

Unless someone thinks that Democrats are somehow the only proper governing party (because they are just better human beings somehow?), I don't understand this need to try and hang a label on Trump that just won't seem to stick on a 70 year old man with connections and friends in just about every demographic group imaginable. There's no traction here. The only people believing the racism charge are those who were already never-Trumpers.
I'm willing to judge him on his words and his deeds. If he really helps the economy... great ( but the jury is out on that). With racial scapegoating , the verdict is in....he has thrown gas on the fire of racial tensions and Islamaphobia. His insanity and lies have enraged millions and cast shade on the media, the judiciary, the intelligence bureaus. That is not good for democracy or civil public discourse. The shitshow continues....
 

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Would someone inform me what nationality/nationalities Masai Ujiri has?

He came to the U.S. on a student visa (two and half years), then was in Europe (six years), then briefly back to Nigeria, then to the U.S.A (six years), then to Canada (two years), back to the U.S. (three years), then back to Canada (going on five years).
Masai Ujiri is from north west Nigeria, he was born near Kano. That city is one of Africa's fastest growing. Nigeria is fascinating, the further east you go the more troubled the country is.
 
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