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Yale University psychology professor Bandy Lee has deleted her Twitter account amid mounting allegations that she is not licensed in her home state of Connecticut.

Accusations have been circulating on Twitter that the prominent Yale professor, known for her public diagnosis of President Donald Trump as having a “mental impairment” and who recently met with lawmakers on Capitol Hill to discuss the issue, isn’t actually a licensed psychiatrist.

"We at the APA call for an end to psychiatrists providing professional opinions in the media about public figures whom they have not examined." Tweet This

In fact, Campus Reform discovered that according to the State of Connecticut, Lee’s “physician/surgeon” license expired in 2015, and her application for reinstatement has been “pending” ever since.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10363


Hum, ho – the Trump-haters have found a new authority figure to swear that the man is crazy. Rocketing to fame thanks to the objective media today is a woman with the extraordinary name of Bandy X. Lee.

Dr. Lee, M.D. is now in danger of having her license pulled by the American Medical Association (AMA) and the American Psychiatric Association (APA) for engaging in ethically prohibited long-distance diagnosis without even interviewing the supposed patient in person. In real psychiatry, not the imaginary kind peddled by the NYT-WaPo Axis of Lies, psychiatric diagnosis is serious business, which normally involves a private interview with the clear, legal consent of the patient, an explicit set of criteria covered in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) of the APA, and an absolute guarantee of privacy in the patient-doctor relationship. Dr. Lee violated all those rules, and in the real world (not in the media narrative), that means her career is at an end. I've seen licenses pulled for much less than that.

That is presumably why Dr. Lee's claimed team of fellow psychiatrists have never been named – if they exist. Lee uses the term "we" in claiming that her extremely dubious "diagnosis" (which does not exist in the DSM) is backed by an unspecified group of fellow "experts." A real licensing board would suspend her for abusing her license to practice for obvious political payoffs, thereby bringing her profession to public ridicule and contempt.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/trump_crazy_like_a_fox.html
 

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Yale University psychology professor Bandy Lee has deleted her Twitter account amid mounting allegations that she is not licensed in her home state of Connecticut.

Accusations have been circulating on Twitter that the prominent Yale professor, known for her public diagnosis of President Donald Trump as having a “mental impairment” and who recently met with lawmakers on Capitol Hill to discuss the issue, isn’t actually a licensed psychiatrist.

"We at the APA call for an end to psychiatrists providing professional opinions in the media about public figures whom they have not examined." Tweet This

In fact, Campus Reform discovered that according to the State of Connecticut, Lee’s “physician/surgeon” license expired in 2015, and her application for reinstatement has been “pending” ever since.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10363


Hum, ho – the Trump-haters have found a new authority figure to swear that the man is crazy. Rocketing to fame thanks to the objective media today is a woman with the extraordinary name of Bandy X. Lee.

Dr. Lee, M.D. is now in danger of having her license pulled by the American Medical Association (AMA) and the American Psychiatric Association (APA) for engaging in ethically prohibited long-distance diagnosis without even interviewing the supposed patient in person. In real psychiatry, not the imaginary kind peddled by the NYT-WaPo Axis of Lies, psychiatric diagnosis is serious business, which normally involves a private interview with the clear, legal consent of the patient, an explicit set of criteria covered in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) of the APA, and an absolute guarantee of privacy in the patient-doctor relationship. Dr. Lee violated all those rules, and in the real world (not in the media narrative), that means her career is at an end. I've seen licenses pulled for much less than that.

That is presumably why Dr. Lee's claimed team of fellow psychiatrists have never been named – if they exist. Lee uses the term "we" in claiming that her extremely dubious "diagnosis" (which does not exist in the DSM) is backed by an unspecified group of fellow "experts." A real licensing board would suspend her for abusing her license to practice for obvious political payoffs, thereby bringing her profession to public ridicule and contempt.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/trump_crazy_like_a_fox.html
The same fine website that also features the article "Leftist Toilet Mouths condemn Trump as they Corrupt Nation"?

Are you serious??!!! A Yale psychology professor is incompetent because she isn't licensed to practice in CT??!! Most of the law professors at my law school weren't licensed to practise law in ON. Know why??...... Because a professor doesn't "practise" professionally within the definition of being licensed. And being licensed requires paying $1,000's for malpractice insurance and other professional fees.

More nonsense from your favourite conspiracy theory websites!
 

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The same fine website that also features the article "Leftist Toilet Mouths condemn Trump as they Corrupt Nation"?

Are you serious??!!! A Yale psychology professor is incompetent because she isn't licensed to practice in CT??!! Most of the law professors at my law school weren't licensed to practise law in ON. Know why??...... Because a professor doesn't "practise" professionally within the definition of being licensed. And being licensed requires paying $1,000's for malpractice insurance and other professional fees.

More nonsense from your favourite conspiracy theory websites!
I doubt your law professors were offering private groups legal opinions about their Ontario cases.
 

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It's quite telling that the main controversy with Dr. Lee is not the actual assessment - it's the controversy of whether she violated the "Goldwater Rule". Also - it should be noted that Dr. Lee specifically stated (from the beginning) that her's was NOT a diagnosis (eg: crazy/not crazy) - she was assessing "dangerousness" which is her field of expertise gained over 20 years studying and predicting violence.
 

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It's quite telling that the main controversy with Dr. Lee is not the actual assessment - it's the controversy of whether she violated the "Goldwater Rule". Also - it should be noted that Dr. Lee specifically stated (from the beginning) that her's was NOT a diagnosis (eg: crazy/not crazy) - she was assessing "dangerousness" which is her field of expertise gained over 20 years studying and predicting violence.
The reason for the Goldwater rule is to avoid unreliable diagnoses, potential breach of patient confidentiality, as well as minimizing potential harm to a person which could arise from public disclosure of mental health information. The rule is premised on the idea that such diagnoses/assessments are inherently unreliable and prejudicial. That's why no one cares what they were. Same reason courts refuse to hear inherently unreliable and potentially prejudicial evidence.
 

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I don't have to be a licensed surgeon in Ontario to see a guy with one arm and be able to diagnose "that man is missing an arm".
 

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I don't have to be a licensed surgeon in Ontario to see a guy with one arm and be able to diagnose "that man is missing an arm".
That's true. Are you saying that psychiatric evaluation is the same? Really just observations that anyone could make? That the pretense that that there is medical expertise to be applied to such opinions is just a hoax being played by the medical profession?
 

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That's true. Are you saying that psychiatric evaluation is the same? Really just observations that anyone could make? That the pretense that that there is medical expertise to be applied to such opinions is just a hoax being played by the medical profession?
Not at all.
Some 'conditions' are so blatantly obvious that it is impossible for anyone with a pulse to mistake.
There is no way to not know that a man with one arm is missing an arm. Extrapolate that to Trump's mental well-being...
 

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Not at all.
Some 'conditions' are so blatantly obvious that it is impossible for anyone with a pulse to mistake.
There is no way to not know that a man with one arm is missing an arm. Extrapolate that to Trump's mental well-being...
Who should decide which psychiatric conditions may be assessed by anyone? You, or the APA? So far, the APA isn't in agreement with you.
 

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Who should decide which psychiatric conditions may be assessed by anyone? You, or the APA? So far, the APA isn't in agreement with you.
If you will only accept an official, sanctioned diagnosis, you aren't going to get one.
In case you haven't noticed, he is the POTUS, for God's sake.

However, if YOU, as an INDIVIDUAL, allegedly intelligent and educated, cannot surmise from the body of evidence, circumstantial and otherwise that Trump has some serious mental issues, then there is really no point in debating with a Trumplekin parrot.
 

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If you will only accept an official, sanctioned diagnosis, you aren't going to get one.
In case you haven't noticed, he is the POTUS, for God's sake.

However, if YOU, as an INDIVIDUAL, allegedly intelligent and educated, cannot surmise from the body of evidence, circumstantial and otherwise that Trump has some serious mental issues, then there is really no point in debating with a Trumplekin parrot.
Ordinary people are free to advance their own amateur analyses of Trump's psyche/intelligence. Of course, those opinions will be given zero weight, as they should be.

Health care professionals are not so free to publicize their half-baked assessments.
 

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I doubt your law professors were offering private groups legal opinions about their Ontario cases.
I think the point is that she wasn't treating patients.
 

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I think the point is that she wasn't treating patients.
I don't think a doctor's ethical obligations are limited to their treatment of patients. Do you?
 

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Ordinary people are free to advance their own amateur analyses of Trump's psyche/intelligence. Of course, those opinions will be given zero weight, as they should be.

Health care professionals are not so free to publicize their half-baked assessments.
No one is stopping you from believing that Trump is the Gold Standard in mental stability.
 

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Once again, from the very beginning Dr. Lee made very clear that she was not diagnosing Trump for mental illness. As for her assessment, again - people (Trump supporters) are attacking her for allegedly violating the "Goldwater Rule" without an understanding of what she was saying. And her assessment is valid, hence the near total lack of reputable experts refuting the assessment but all sorts of Trump supporters attacking her for something she didn't do (i.e. a psychiatric evaluation of Trump). Her field of expertise is assessing violent tendencies.
 

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No one is stopping you from believing that Trump is the Gold Standard in mental stability.
Neither you nor I are doctors, but so far all I see from Trump are garden variety irritating qualities that can be seen in many high ranking political or business leaders (short temper, vanity, micro-managerial control tendencies, insensitivity to those with thin skins, sub par speaking clarity) as well as some positive character attributes (patience in negotiations, independent thinking, willingness to criticize institutions that typically avoid necessary criticism and feedback). Nothing I would call mental illness.

In my view, all persons capable of achieving the level of political success necessary to become President are atypical personalities with extreme tendencies measured against the norm. Some are just better than others at hiding what is atypical about them (and the media has decided to try to make this an issue for Trump - however, whether they are actually hurting or helping Trump remains to be seen).
 

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Once again, from the very beginning Dr. Lee made very clear that she was not diagnosing Trump for mental illness. As for her assessment, again - people (Trump supporters) are attacking her for allegedly violating the "Goldwater Rule" without an understanding of what she was saying. And her assessment is valid, hence the near total lack of reputable experts refuting the assessment but all sorts of Trump supporters attacking her for something she didn't do (i.e. a psychiatric evaluation of Trump). Her field of expertise is assessing violent tendencies.
When she answers to her medical peers, her argument that I "was only discussing a hypothetical based on information gathered about Trump" will be about as convincing as a lawyer claiming he wasn't providing legal advice because he was wearing his "consultant" hat that day. If the essence of her opinion required the exercise of her medical expertise, she was providing a medical assessment. No one would have met with her if they thought they were receiving any less from her.
 

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Neither you nor I are doctors, but so far all I see from Trump are garden variety irritating qualities that can be seen in many high ranking political or business leaders (short temper, vanity, micro-managerial control tendencies, insensitivity to those with thin skins, sub par speaking clarity) as well as some positive character attributes (patience in negotiations, independent thinking, willingness to criticize institutions that typically avoid necessary criticism and feedback). Nothing I would call mental illness.

In my view, all persons capable of achieving the level of political success necessary to become President are atypical personalities with extreme tendencies measured against the norm. Some are just better than others at hiding what is atypical about them (and the media has decided to try to make this an issue for Trump - however, whether they are actually hurting or helping Trump remains to be seen).
Some are better at ignoring the signs of dementia then others.
Just read a full transcript of a Trump interview and tell me how coherent he is.
 
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