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You keep quoting Amnesty but have repeatedly justified attacks on people who Amnesty says are civilians. Obviously you don't give a shit about Amnesty or human rights except where you can use them you justify the destruction of Israel.
Nonsense.
Show me the post or admit you're lying again.
 

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I have no problem with Tamini kid being held in custody until her assault charges are dealt with. Why do you think Palestinians should be allowed to assault Israelis and get away with it?
Ahed Tamimi is a 16 year old girl whose offence was she slapped a soldier after they shot her brother, on their families property.
Her family has been protesting for 10 years, once a week, against Israel stealing their water.
They've been shot and had family members shot many times.
Israel is now keeping this 16 year kid behind bars and has shut down their entire village.

For a slap.

Its pretty disgusting.

You keep quoting Amnesty but then refuse to listen to what they say when they actually
Here's what Amnesty says:
“Nothing that Ahed Tamimi has done can justify the continuing detention of a 16-year-old girl. The Israeli authorities must release her without delay. In capturing an unarmed teenage girl’s assault on two armed soldiers wearing protective gear, the footage of this incident shows that she posed no actual threat and that her punishment is blatantly disproportionate,” said Magdalena Mughrabi, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.

“Ahed Tamimi’s ensuing arrest and military trial exposes the Israeli authorities’ discriminatory treatment of Palestinian children who dare to stand up to ongoing, often brutal, repression by occupying forces.”

Ahed Tamimi was arrested on 19 December along with her mother, Nariman Tamimi, and cousin Nour Tamimi after Nariman, also a prominent activist, posted the footage online. Ahed confronted the soldiers amid a demonstration in Nabi Saleh against US President Donald Trump’s recent decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

The incident took place on the same day that Ahed’s cousin, 15-year-old Mohammad Tamimi, was hit in the head at close range by a rubber bullet fired by an Israeli soldier. His family told Amnesty International that he required surgery that involved the removal of part of his left skull.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...ase-teenage-palestinian-activist-ahed-tamimi/

You need to shut up about Amnesty until you support their call for human rights in Israel and for Israel to stop abusing children.
 

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Ahed Tamimi is a 16 year old girl whose offence was she slapped a soldier ...
Yep, that's why she's been charged. Your belief that Palestinians should be allowed to use violence and Israel shouldn't be allowed to stop them is insanely hateful. Why do you think Palestinians should be allowed to use violence without consequence?

And it is a joke that you quote amnesty when they criticize Israel but refuse to listen to them when the criticize the Palestinians.
 

Frankfooter

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Yep, that's why she's been charged.
You really are supporting detaining a 16 year old girl, her mother and shutting down her entire village because this kid slapped a fully armed and protected soldier?

In Canada that would never happen.
 

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You really are supporting detaining a 16 year old girl, her mother and shutting down her entire village because this kid slapped a fully armed and protected soldier?

In Canada that would never happen.
Assault is assault. Try attacking a riot cop and tell me what happens.
 

Frankfooter

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Assault is assault. Try attacking a riot cop and tell me what happens.
Riot cops in Canada don't shoot kids in the face from close range, as your cops did to Ahed's brother.
And for slapping a cop no kid in Canada would still be in jail.

Of course Canada wouldn't steal a family's water and shoot at them every week for 10 years if they protested it either.

Free Ahed Tamimi!
 

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...

Of course Canada wouldn't steal a family's water and shoot at them every week for 10 years if they protested it either.
...
Canadian families wouldn't be rioting weekly to get rid of Jews.

An d I see you still refuse to discuss how your Hamas terrorists gunned down a rabbi and promised more attacks of the like.
 

Frankfooter

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Canadian families wouldn't be rioting weekly to get rid of Jews.
And yet:
According to the UN, the border between Israel/Palestine will be negotiated based on the 1949 armistice lines
and:
I officially and formally declare that I hereby call for an end to settlement building.
So you both claim you are for the two state solution, admit that the settlements are in land that should be Palestine, call for settlement building to stop yet simultaneously try to argue that the illegal settlements that are in place should stay?

That's not just a little hypocritical, basketcase.
 

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And yet:

and:


So you both claim you are for the two state solution, admit that the settlements are in land that should be Palestine, call for settlement building to stop yet simultaneously try to argue that the illegal settlements that are in place should stay?

That's not just a little hypocritical, basketcase.
Point?

Are you so desperate to justify Palestinian violence that you quote completely unrelated posts as if they mean something?
 

Frankfooter

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Point?

Are you so desperate to justify Palestinian violence that you quote completely unrelated posts as if they mean something?
The point is that you claim to support the two state solution yet instead support the same illegal settlements that killed it.
That's very hypocritical.

And now you're left supporting apartheid.

Time to bring in the ICC.

If the ICC finds Israel apartheid all Canadians will be morally bound to boycott Israel.
 

basketcase

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The point is that you claim to support the two state solution yet instead support the same illegal settlements that killed it.....
Settlements haven't killed anything. Israel has repeatedly shown the willingness to trade land for peace. Unfortunately the last time they tried your Hamas heroes turned it into a base for terrorism.

The offer Olmert made in 2008 was a completely contiguous and feasible Palestine but Abbas rejected it outright because he's not prepared to make peace with Israel.
 

Frankfooter

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Settlements haven't killed anything.
The two state solution is dead.
There are no peace talks, haven't been for years and the Israeli government is instead talking about annexing more Palestinian land.

You've bought the apartheid solution.
Bring on the ICC!
 

basketcase

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The two state solution is dead....
Keep making excuses for Palestinians to avoid peace.

Your terrorist heroes in Hamas, the ones who just gunned down a rabbi and celebrated the act, have openly refused to be involved in any peace talks but of course you can only blame Israel.
 

Frankfooter

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Keep making excuses for Palestinians to avoid peace.

Your terrorist heroes in Hamas, the ones who just gunned down a rabbi and celebrated the act, have openly refused to be involved in any peace talks but of course you can only blame Israel.
Hamas is walled up in the Gaza death camp.
Gaza is on a general strike because the living conditions are so bad.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...ike-worsening-conditions-180122080213978.html
Of course news of the conditions in the death camp don't get out because of social media censorship.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...ebook-youtube-censorship-180119095053943.html

The conditions of the 2 million people stuck in Gaza are much more urgent, but you don't care about Palestinian deaths, do you?
 

Frankfooter

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Not the ones who just gunned down a rabbi in his car.
You mean you want to put even more Palestinians in the Gaza death camp?

"The magnitude, the deliberateness, the violations of international humanitarian law, the impact on the health, lives, and survival, and the overall conditions warrant the characterisation of a crime against humanity," says Richard Falk, a former UN special rapporteur for human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories.

"This is an increasingly precarious condition. A recent study reports that 46 percent of all Palestinian children in Gaza suffer from acute anaemia. There are reports that the sonic booms associated with Israeli overflights have caused widespread deafness, especially among children. Children need thousands of hearing aids.

"Malnutrition is extremely high in a number of different dimensions and affects 75 percent of Palestinians in Gaza. There are widespread mental disorders, especially among young people ... Over 50 percent of Palestinian children in Gaza under the age of 12 have been found to have no will to live," wrote Falk in 2008.

When I referred to Falk's findings from a decade ago, Dr Naim said things have become "much worse", pointing to the fact that much of Gaza's critical infrastructure was destroyed during Israel's 2014 assault, noting that 20,000 tons of explosive ordinance was dropped on the Strip by Israeli jets and artillery, and that unemployment and poverty have skyrocketed since.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/gaza-situation-catastrophic-1550930209

Ninety-seven Percent of Gaza Drinking Water Contaminated by Sewage, Salt, Expert Warns
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...g-water-contaminated-by-sewage-salt-1.5747876

What you are supporting in Gaza is truly frightening.
Its really quite evil.
 

Frankfooter

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WTF are you talking about?

Why are you so afraid to criticize Hamas for an obvious terror murder?
I did, I said this is a horrible action and the shooter should be brought to trial.

Now why do you refuse to criticize Israeli treatment of all of Gaza?
Why are you all upset about this one murder yet not at all concerned about the treatment of 2 million civilians?

"The magnitude, the deliberateness, the violations of international humanitarian law, the impact on the health, lives, and survival, and the overall conditions warrant the characterisation of a crime against humanity," says Richard Falk, a former UN special rapporteur for human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories.

"This is an increasingly precarious condition. A recent study reports that 46 percent of all Palestinian children in Gaza suffer from acute anaemia. There are reports that the sonic booms associated with Israeli overflights have caused widespread deafness, especially among children. Children need thousands of hearing aids.

"Malnutrition is extremely high in a number of different dimensions and affects 75 percent of Palestinians in Gaza. There are widespread mental disorders, especially among young people ... Over 50 percent of Palestinian children in Gaza under the age of 12 have been found to have no will to live," wrote Falk in 2008.

When I referred to Falk's findings from a decade ago, Dr Naim said things have become "much worse", pointing to the fact that much of Gaza's critical infrastructure was destroyed during Israel's 2014 assault, noting that 20,000 tons of explosive ordinance was dropped on the Strip by Israeli jets and artillery, and that unemployment and poverty have skyrocketed since.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/gaza-situation-catastrophic-1550930209

Ninety-seven Percent of Gaza Drinking Water Contaminated by Sewage, Salt, Expert Warns
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...g-water-contaminated-by-sewage-salt-1.5747876

What you are supporting in Gaza is truly frightening.
Its really quite evil.
 
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