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Nikki Haley Schools and Bitch Slaps the UNSC

danmand

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Nikki Haley' knowledge of international affairs arose from a breakfast she once had at the International House of Pancakes.
Ms Haley is a complete embarassment to USA. The administration, against all odds, found somebody dumber than Sarah Palin.
 

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In spite of her eloquence the US lost that one, 14 to 1.

Predictable, considering all she could offer as an argument was 'it's our embassy, we can put it where we want'.

Too bad if it deliberately amps up hostilities instead of improving diplomacy, everyone's wrong but us and we don't listen anyway. So who needs embassies?
 

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In spite of her eloquence the US lost that one, 14 to 1.

Predictable, considering all she could offer as an argument was 'it's our embassy, we can put it where we want'.

Too bad if it deliberately amps up hostilities instead of improving diplomacy, everyone's wrong but us and we don't listen anyway. So who needs embassies?
They only needed one vote - their veto, so how did they lose?
 

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They only needed one vote - their veto, so how did they lose?
They 'won' exactly the way Trump 'won' the Presidency. But in the eyes of the world they lost indisputably. Just as Trump lost, when Americans chose the President they preferred and respected.
 

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They only needed one vote - their veto, so how did they lose?
They lose because now the UN GC will vote against the US position, and Abbas says the US is no longer a partner for any peace talks.
That means peace talks are done and the campaign moves to BDS and the ICC, where Israel will eventually lose as South Africa did.
The US's position now becomes much more isolated, the question is whether any country will vote with the US now.
If the US is accepted as not be a partner for peace in the region there will be more questions about their actions around the world.

Previously Israel had used the US and Oslo to pretend to interested in peace as a stalling tactic while they colonized more of Palestine.
Without those excuses all they have left is whataboutisms like 'what about Hamas', and 'OMG, look at Iran'.
 

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Nikki Haley can say what she wants but it's not going to make any difference. Over 100 Countries have sided with Palestine. China has brought forth a resolution to give Palestine Jerusalem and make it's Palestine's Capital.

The reality that many here don't seem to understand is that America's prestige in the World has been diminishing sine the 9-11 BS and invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Nobody believes America any longer. They've lied so many times and have proven to not be willing to stick to previous agreements. They have become a pariah. When you have to fall in line with two terrorist States like Saudi Arabia and Israel. Two countries that everybody, except a few bought off Middle Eastern Monarchies, hate. This is reality. America has been lead by the nose for decades by Israeli and Saudi Arabia. And nobody likes them.

You can only cry wolf so many times. For Nikki Haley to have a hissy fit at the UN does not change reality. The Empire of Chaos is losing the 21st Century. The worst is yet too come.
 

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Nikki Haley can say what she wants but it's not going to make any difference. Over 100 Countries have sided with Palestine. China has brought forth a resolution to give Palestine Jerusalem and make it's Palestine's Capital.

The reality that many here don't seem to understand is that America's prestige in the World has been diminishing sine the 9-11 BS and invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Nobody believes America any longer. They've lied so many times and have proven to not be willing to stick to previous agreements. They have become a pariah. When you have to fall in line with two terrorist States like Saudi Arabia and Israel. Two countries that everybody, except a few bought off Middle Eastern Monarchies, hate. This is reality. America has been lead by the nose for decades by Israeli and Saudi Arabia. And nobody likes them.

You can only cry wolf so many times. For Nikki Haley to have a hissy fit at the UN does not change reality. The Empire of Chaos is losing the 21st Century. The worst is yet too come.
Yes, the US makes mistakes (unintentionally or otherwise, and lots of them), but until some other country can and will carry the weight of keeping the world in at least survivable working order, it simply doesn't matter what any other country has to say about their moral right to lead, any more than the votes of a thousand ants matter to the foot about to land on them. They lead because there is no one else who is MORE trustworthy or capable of having that power and authority. The rest is all politicking for specific interests and/or whining.
 

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They 'won' exactly the way Trump 'won' the Presidency. But in the eyes of the world they lost indisputably. Just as Trump lost, when Americans chose the President they preferred and respected.
Ants and boots, see above.
 

oldjones

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Ants and boots, see above.
Small comfort that you too realize the only moral authority Trump and his Administration has or recognizes is that of the boot that crushes the ants.

But perhaps you never read Aesop or studied biology. It'll be the much more numerous ants that eat the boot and the wearer in the end.
 

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Small comfort that you too realize the only moral authority Trump and his Administration has or recognizes is that of the boot that crushes the ants.

But perhaps you never read Aesop or studied biology. It'll be the much more numerous ants that eat the boot and the wearer in the end.
Maybe so, but thus far, ants have never ruled the world, and don't seem poised to do so anytime soon.
 

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Who the HELL does the UN think they are trying to tell the US where to put THEIR embassy????!!!!

Since Haley couldn't say it, I'll say it for her.

FUCK YOU U.N
 

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Maybe so, but thus far, ants have never ruled the world, and don't seem poised to do so anytime soon.
And unless Donny finds the Ring of Power neither will he or the USA, no matter how big his feet.

Except by moral authority, of course.
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PS. You might look up Bonaparte, Napoleon; Hitler, Adolf; Stalin, Josef as other example of Big Boot 'Rulers of the World' who succumbed to the multitudes of ants in the end. There are lots more of the 'failures' than there are examples of anyone being ant-proof.

And just BTW, the ants quite likely see you as their clumsy and not-too-bright servant and food-source; when was the last time they did what you told them, O Mighty Ruler? I won't ask ask you for your final solution, you've already chosen the jackboot.
 

oldjones

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Who the HELL does the UN think they are trying to tell the US where to put THEIR embassy????!!!!

Since Haley couldn't say it, I'll say it for her.

FUCK YOU U.N
Actually what the UN told the US was, "…keep your promises, and live up to the case you yourself made and signed onto just a few years ago." That's what the vetoed motion said.

If the US decided to put their Embassy to Canada on the shores of the NorthWest Passage they claim to be International Waters, we too might object, and ask for UN support. Or if they declared their Embassy was a desk in Washington, not a building in Ottawa.

Embassies are about diplomacy and getting along, perhaps, like Netanyahu you're confusing 'embassy' with 'military base'. If that was Trump's intention, no one (with an actual brain) should be miffed if the world sees it that way and doesn't like it.

When he announces the American Mission to the Palestinians will relocate to East Jerusalem, then the world can try to believe America still believes in fairness and justice for all.
 

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Actually what the UN told the US was, "…keep your promises, and live up to the case you yourself made and signed onto just a few years ago." If the US decided to put their Embassy to Canada on the shores of the NorthWest Passage they claim to be International Waters, we too might object, and ask for UN support. Or if they declared their Embassy was a desk in Washington, not a building in Ottawa.

Embassies are about diplomacy and getting along, perhaps, like Netanyahu you're confusing 'embassy' with 'military base'. If that was Trump's intention, no one (with an actual brain) should be miffed if the world sees it that way and doesn't like it.
THE UN can go fuck themselves sideways if they think for a second they can tell the US where they can put THEIR embassies. And while the US is at it, defund the UN.

Israel and the US are on the same page.
 

oldjones

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THE UN can go fuck themselves sideways if they think for a second they can tell the US where they can put THEIR embassies. And while they are at it, defund the UN.

Israel and the US are on the same page.
Not only did you apparently not read my post before replying to it, but you've evidently forgotten you said exactly the same thing just before it. Nothing useful to add, then?
 

SuperCharge

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Not only did you not read my post before replying but you've evidently forgotten you said exactly the same thing just before it. Nothing useful to add, then?
Oh I read your post alright. The UN will not now, or ever, tell the US where they can put their embassies. Maybe you don't understand that part!

This move was voted on by the Senate 90-0/6 months ago.

IMO The US Embassy should have been in Jerusalem from the start.
 
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