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Harper Government Identified ‘Mental Health Issues’ as a Root Cause of Terrorism

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Harper Government Identified ‘Mental Health Issues’ as a Root Cause of Terrorism, Secret Documents Show

Harper’s Conservatives claimed ‘the root cause of terrorism is terrorists’. Confidential documents suggest otherwise.

December 14, 2017

Despite rhetoric refusing to understand the.“so-called root causes of radicalization,” internal documents show Stephen Harper’s senior bureaucrats actually believed mental health issues are “often” one of its underlying causes.

Documents marked “secret” obtained by PressProgress under access-to-information show top national security experts seemingly at odds with Harper’s hardline public rhetoric on terrorism.

In the lead-up to the 2015 federal election, Harper’s Conservatives repeatedly worked to exploit fears on terrorism in their political and fundraising messaging – Harper himself directly referenced a pair of violent attacks in Ottawa and Québec in 2014 as justifications for the Conservatives’ controversial Bill C-51.

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Yet in the final weeks of the 2015 election, Harper’s National Security Advisor Richard Fadden summoned deputy ministers from several departments to the Privy Council Office to discuss “the future of the Anti-Terrorism Act (Bill C-51)” and plans for “countering radicalization.”

Fadden, a former director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, was tapped as Harper’s top advisor on national security after the 2014 Parliament Hill shooting.

Although Harper vowed not to “commit sociology,” a presentation drafted by Public Safety Canada shows his national security team explored ways federal partners could use social policy to collaborate on Canada’s counter-terrorism strategy.

A partially redacted backgrounder on the “demographics” of violent extremists qualifies that there is “no single profile” but observes age and gender appear to be two important traits– the slide also includes photos of four young men linked to high-profile terror cases.

Notably, the secret document also highlights one other common denominator: “mental health is often an issue.”

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One man whose photo appears in the October 2015 document is Parliament Hill gunman Michael Zehaf-Bibeau. Following an attack that left Cpl. Nathan Cirillo dead, reports emerged that Zehaf-Bibeau had a history of significant substance abuse issues while his own mother stated she believed “mental illness is at the centre of this tragedy.”

Two days earlier in Québec, a man named Martin Couture-Rouleau killed Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent in a hit-and-run at a Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu mall parking lot. A coroner’s report later concluded the attack had more to do with mental illness than radicalization.

Harper’s government linked both attacks to global terrorism while Conservative MPs attacked NDP leader Thomas Mulcair for suggesting mental health issues appeared to be an underlying issue.

Likewise, after the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, Conservative MP P I E R R E Poilievre attacked Liberal leader Justin Trudeau for suggesting it’s important to “look at the root causes” of terrorism, by offering this bit of circular logic:

“The root cause of terrorism is terrorists.”

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In fact, behind-the-scenes, bureaucrats were committing sociology and searching for the root causes of terrorism.

The presentation cites research produced by the Kanishka project, a $10 million research project launched by Stephen Harper in 2011 in order to “know as much as we can about terrorists.”

Another slide from the meeting suggests “social policy-oriented departments” can help stop radicalization by focusing on “strengthening social foundations before individuals and communities become at-risk.”

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Canadians will find nary a peep about social policy or anything relating to mental health issues in the Harper government’s 2012 counter-terrorism strategy or either their 2013 and 2014 reports on “the terrorist threat to Canada.”

Yet the secret documents list several “examples of intervention programming around the world” that do exactly that, including programs in the United Kingdom, Germany, Sweden and Australia.

The UK’s counter-terrorism strategy, for example, identifies at-risk individuals and provides them with individualized “support plans” – including “support from health providers or social care services” for “substance misuse or mental health issues” for individuals vulnerable to extremism.

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In a statement to PressProgress, a spokesperson from Public Safety Canada qualifies there is “no single profile or common pathway” to violent extremism and suggests “multiple causes” can be present at different times and places, but notes “mental health-related factors may contribute to particular processes of radicalization to violence.”

Public Safety Canada also adds that “research on the link between mental health and radicalization to violence is on-going” and suggests “mentorship, counseling, child protection services, or access to mental health resources” can be appropriate ways to intervene “alongside law enforcement measures.”

Earlier this year, the Québec Association of Psychiatrists called for a new approach to dealing with the intersection of mental health and radicalization.

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God forbid that we should ever state that Salafism is a primary cause -- after all Islamists can't possibly be influenced by their view of the religion it must be mental illness.
 

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God forbid that we should ever state that Salafism is a primary cause -- after all Islamists can't possibly be influenced by their view of the religion it must be mental illness.
From scanning photos and reports of Canadian Daesh recruits, many appear to be white converts to extreme Islam. That would appear to suggest mental health issues.
 

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From scanning photos and reports of Canadian Daesh recruits, many appear to be white converts to extreme Islam. That would appear to suggest mental health issues.
It may account for some, but really, the root cause of terrorism is war.
While terror-related headlines tend to imply the worst, the truth is much more prosaic. Terrorism since 9/11 is down – and dramatically so – in countries not suffering from civil wars and insurgencies. The majority of terror incidents that have taken place during the global war on terror were linked with insurgencies and civil wars. While this was still the case before 2001, the association between terrorism and insurgency has grown significantly stronger during the era of the war on terror.

Relatedly, outside countries afflicted with these forms of political violence, terrorism has been remarkably reduced since 2002. Accounting for the fact that most terrorist activity takes place within the context of active insurgency, the number of terror attacks since 9/11 is significantly lower than between 1989 and 2001. A country not suffering civil conflict was more than 60 percent more likely to experience terrorism prior to or during the year 2001 than since.

The distinction between the eras does not stop here. The analysis also revealed a marked trend reversal in terror attacks (pre- and post-2001) in predominantly Muslim countries. Before 2001, countries with higher Muslim populations experienced less domestic terrorism, while since 9/11, these countries have seen significantly more– both domestic and international. This pattern is particularly strong in places recently afflicted with conflicts, such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, and Sudan.

This finding may be a result of domestic upheavals in parts of the Muslim world and Islamist groups’ involvement in Arab Spring-related conflicts. Islamist insurgencies have risen since 2001 and an increase in terrorism is likely a byproduct of this fact. It is possible that defensive measures in the West have forced a shift in targets. While jihadist terrorism has become more enduring and widespread in the past 15 years, as suggested by the reversal in Muslim-majority countries, it remains more local than global.

Importantly, interventions by Western countries may likewise be contributing to this pattern of terrorism in Muslim countries. Unsurprisingly, we found a positive correlation between Western military interventions on behalf of governments fighting civil wars and domestic terrorism in those countries. The models revealed that Western intervention was associated with anywhere from a two to five-fold increase in the expected number of domestic attacks. No doubt, intervening nations only participate in the most protracted and pernicious wars – those most likely to exhibit terrorism in the first place, suggesting that Western interventions may be a symptom of terrorism in these countries as well as a possible cause. In the past decade and a half, this includes multi-sided insurgencies in countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, and Mali.
https://warontherocks.com/2017/12/terrorism-war-terror-look-numbers/

That article is worth reading.

Their summary?
Any debate about a sound U.S. security policy related to countering global terrorism should be informed by the numbers. And the numbers indicate that in as much as there is a concern for combating terrorism internationally, perhaps the focus should be on reducing the incidence of civil war.
 

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From scanning photos and reports of Canadian Daesh recruits, many appear to be white converts to extreme Islam. That would appear to suggest mental health issues.
Oh,... so now anybody who is white, and becomes a Muslim,... has mental health issues,... ???

How very racist of you,... !!!
 

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Oh,... so now anybody who is white, and becomes a Muslim,... has mental health issues,... ???

How very racist of you,... !!!
Anyone who joins with the extremists.
Probably true of the extremist right wingers as well.
 

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At some level, you could characterize the action of killing random civilians for a political cause as crazy. Sadly the blame should lie with the people who take advantage of the mentally ill to fulfil their disgusting agenda.

At a similar level, anyone who justifies terrorism or makes excuses for it also suffers from from mental health issues. ^^^
 

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It may account for some, but really, the root cause of terrorism is war.

https://warontherocks.com/2017/12/terrorism-war-terror-look-numbers/

That article is worth reading.

Their summary?
Religion plays its part to exacerbate gripes. The US has done alot of f*cked up sh*t against both muslim and non muslim countries, but usually it is only muslim countries that resort to terrorism. Panama, Guatemala, Laos, vietnam, off the top of my head those countries should be livid towards the US but they just move on.

With that said, terrorism has more to do with money than war or religion; atleast in the middle east. The middle east is either rich as f*ck, or poor as dirt. The rich pay the poor to do the dirty work and the poor that do it delude themselves that they are not $5 Mc'mercenaries and instead are holy warriors because that suits their ego better.

I wonder how much Suadia Arabia and Qatar invested into ISIS, it might be a shocking low amount in the order of hundreds of millions. Those on the recieving end of ISIS, probably spent tens of billions combined to deal with ISIS.
 

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Religion plays its part to exacerbate gripes. The US has done alot of f*cked up sh*t against both muslim and non muslim countries, but usually it is only muslim countries that resort to terrorism. Panama, Guatemala, Laos, vietnam, off the top of my head those countries should be livid towards the US but they just move on.

With that said, terrorism has more to do with money than war or religion; atleast in the middle east. The middle east is either rich as f*ck, or poor as dirt. The rich pay the poor to do the dirty work and the poor that do it delude themselves that they are not $5 Mc'mercenaries and instead are holy warriors because that suits their ego better.

I wonder how much Suadia Arabia and Qatar invested into ISIS, it might be a shocking low amount in the order of hundreds of millions. Those on the recieving end of ISIS, probably spent tens of billions combined to deal with ISIS.
Eventually. As in those countries moved on eventually.

Religion is just used as a tribal divider, if it wasn't religion it would be something about skin colour, language or culture. That and the fact that the US is more actively involved in Muslim countries as a whole then any other group.
 

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At a similar level, anyone who justifies terrorism or makes excuses for it also suffers from from mental health issues. ^^^
Which is confirmed here, over and over again,... by a certain terrorist apologist here.
 
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Heaven forbid we might call it something else
 

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Heaven forbid we might call it something else
Or simply state up front that anybody who is an Islamic terrorist,... is mentally ill.

PC headlines must now be formatted,..."mentally ill Islamic terrorist drives truck over children,... was shot and killed by mentally ill security",... that should make Hair Doo happy.

Mind you,... I have to agree that anybody who was indoctrinated into a religion at an early age,... should be eligible for treatment.
 

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http://www.newsweek.com/2017/11/17/boston-jihadi-plot-gets-top-isis-leader-killed-703994.html

Apropos this is an article about online recruitment of ISIS terrorists in the US, which is relevant to the motivation discussion.
Interesting article.

Sounds like ISIS targets losers, which makes sense. Same way the FBI likes to set up some losers to entrap them later. The only good news there is that so far the losers aren't very good at attacking. Probably works the same for the white supremacists, who target losers or attract losers like the Charlottesville killer. The bigger question is how do you keep losers from becoming extremists, aside from having opportunity for them to have jobs and lives.

In any case, aside from monitoring communication and offering better opportunities, it makes increased security look like the worst solution.

Good interview here on why Islamic extremists and the far right need each outer.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/12/19/16764046/islam-terrorism-far-right-extremism-isis
 

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PC headlines must now be formatted,..."mentally ill Islamic terrorist drives truck over children"
Nope, its a:

"Mentally very sincere person, who just read his Holy Book slightly different"
 

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Now everyone be nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be nice, dammit!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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