You are farcical when you claim that peace can be achieved when Hamas has a major say in Palestinian politics and prefers continual violence to peace with Israel.
Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, defying allies and foes
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What does that have to do with 'punishment' for making a statement?http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...icc-criminal-court-hague-latest-a8035576.html
The ICC appears more interested in punishing war crimes then statements.
What a bullshit statement from you. You are constantly railing that Israelis are on Palestinian land so you have already pre-determined what you think Palestine is (and based on your posting history, you seem to agree with the Hamas definition)....
Borders would be up to Israelis and Palestinians, ...
The ICC will investigate war crimes, not statements or speeches.What does that have to do with 'punishment' for making a statement?
Coming from the guy who defends a country but refuses to say where its borders are himself, I find this incredibly funny.What a bullshit statement from you. You are constantly railing that Israelis are on Palestinian land so you have already pre-determined what you think Palestine is (and based on your posting history, you seem to agree with the Hamas definition).
Did you find a map yet that has the borders of Israel printed on it yet?
As the biggest Israel supporter here, how come you can't tell us where it is?
You and your Hamas buddies are the joke.Coming from the guy who defends a country but refuses to say where its borders are himself, I find this incredibly funny.
Did you find a map yet that has the borders of Israel printed on it yet?
As the biggest Israel supporter here, how come you can't tell us where it is?
I could point to to the UN which clearly addresses the issue but you only want to justify attacks on Jewish civilians who dare take kids for a hike in the West Bank.
According to the UN, the border between Israel/Palestine will be negotiated based on the 1949 armistice lines but you support Hamas in the rejection of negotiations and the rejection of any peace that means Israel exists.
p.s. Make up your mind. You keep claiming where is Palestinian land is so when you stated "Borders would be up to Israelis and Palestinians," you are clearly lying.
Then why do you want the ICC to prosecute the US for a statement?The ICC will investigate war crimes, not statements or speeches.
Keep living up to your Fraudfooter handle.
Typical hasbara troll claims.According to the UN, the border between Israel/Palestine will be negotiated based on the 1949 armistice lines but you support Hamas in the rejection of negotiations and the rejection of any peace that means Israel exists.
I've repeatedly posted that should the near impossible happen and the two state solution be negotiated, agreed on and acted upon, I'd be very happy to support a peaceful resolution.
I don't support attacks on anyone, I don't support attacks on civilians, unlike you, who supported the killing of a Palestinian farmer by armed trespassers.
If the UN comes in declares borders or if the ICC declares borders, I'd be happy to support that if it leads to peace.
After 20 years of Oslo, its clear that Israel won't negotiate peace and are happier colonizing and running apartheid.
Time to bring in the ICC and UN.
Better than your Hamas troll routine.Typical hasbara troll claims....
Yet you refuse to criticize Hamas for their rejection of peace in any form. Fraudfooter strikes again.I've repeatedly posted that should the near impossible happen and the two state solution be negotiated, agreed on and acted upon, I'd be very happy to support a peaceful resolution.
Yet refuse to criticize Palestinians when they do it. Your latest example is suggesting that Jewish kids hiking in the West Bank deserved to be attacked because they were trespassing. We can also discuss how you continually pretend there is no Palestinian terrorism and refuse to discuss things like the once again daily terror rockets from Gaza (BTW. those rockets have hit a Palestinian school and house - figured you'd complain about attacks on Palestinian schools).I don't support attacks on anyone
The UN says the only solution is a Two-State peace negotiated based on the 1949 armistice lines, something Hamas openly opposes and Abbas/Arafat rejected repeatedly....
Time to bring in the ICC and UN.
Why do you keep claiming I said the exact opposite of what was written?Then why do you want the ICC to prosecute the US for a statement?
Have you no honesty at all?
Hamas has said they'd accept it, its in their charter.The UN says the only solution is a Two-State peace negotiated based on the 1949 armistice lines, something Hamas openly opposes and Abbas/Arafat rejected repeatedly.
Abbas offered everything Israel asked and Israel still refused, its in the Palestine papers.
Netanyahu has repeatedly stated he won't give any land back, that makes the two state solution impossible.
The one state solution is already here, only its apartheid.
At least you're good for a laugh.Why do you keep claiming I said the exact opposite of what was written?
Have you no honesty at all?
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Claiming Jerusalem for Israel is a war crime, ...
Still trying to justify more war crimes?
US embassy relocation to Jerusalem 'a war crime'
The charter where Hamas explicitly says the conflict will not end until Israel is gone from all of Historic Palestine?Hamas has said they'd accept it, its in their charter.
Flat out wrong.Abbas offered everything Israel asked and Israel still refused, its in the Palestine papers.
Olmert's offer was far more compromising than anything in the 'Palestine papers' yet Abbas walked away from it.
Despite the Palestinian constitution stating Palestinian is an Islamic state, Abbas (and even more so Hamas) reject the statement that Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people.
It's laughable when a guy complains about lies then comes out with obvious whoppers like this. Netanyahu claimed that settlements would be Israeli as part of the land swaps that the UN and Arab League support.Netanyahu has repeatedly stated he won't give any land back,
p.s. Why don't you admit that all of your complaints are because you have the same goals as Hamas and are okay with their methods.
Acquisition of land through war is a war crime.At least you're good for a laugh.
Its not so hard.
They said:The charter where Hamas explicitly says the conflict will not end until Israel is gone from all of Historic Palestine?
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-charter-1637794876However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.
The one written on a napkin?Olmert's offer was far more compromising than anything in the 'Palestine papers' yet Abbas walked away from it.
The one detailed in the Palestine papers?
You want to do this again?They said:
It's point 2 and 3 of their charter.
2 Palestine, with its historical known borders from Jordan’s river in the east to the mediterranean sea in the west, from Ras Al Nakora in the north to Om Al Rashrash in the south, this land is Palestinian and a united regional unit. Displacing Palestinians and creating a Zionist entity does not cancel the right of Palestinians to their entire land, and does not validate the Zionist entity to violate this land.
3 Palestine is an Arab and Islamic land, it is holy and blessed and it has a special place in the heart of all Arabs and Muslims.
In point 4 they explicitly say that only Arabs can be citizens of Palestine.
4 The Palestinians are the Arab citizens who lived in Palestine before 1947. Anyone who was displaced or stayed in Palestine, anyone who was born from an Arab Palestinian father after 1947, inside or outside the country is Palestinian.
It's pathetic that you continually make excuses for Hamas terrorism.
You always need to lie to justify Palestinian rejection of peace. Abbas saw the entire map. If he didn't like the proposed borders he could have easily made a counter-proposal.The one written on a napkin?
Olmert's offer had EVERYTHING the international community sees as fair yet Abbas walked away because it would mean accepting Israel exists. Of course Hamas would never have accepted it and used it as just another excuse for terrorism.
p.s. I see you have no interest in criticizing Hamas for the terrorism as a response to a US announcement.
Don't worry. I know you have no interest in charging the US for Trump's statement. I'm just pointing out how asinine it is that you want Israel charged for a US statement.Why do you keep claiming I said the exact opposite of what was written?
Have you no honesty at all?
Likud also states they want all the land for themselves, but the difference here is that Hamas' quoted charter also states that they'd accept the democratic will of the Palestinian people and settle for two states if the people wanted it.You want to do this again?
It's point 2 and 3 of their charter.
Shame that the Likud charter doesn't go so far.
...Is a terrorist entity that continues to use it's private army to prevent any opportunities at peace.Likud also states they want all the land for themselves, but the difference here is that Hamas' ...
Israel on the other hand is a democracy that has officially accepted the idea of a two state peace.
