SP pre-screening advice

kugel2 · Nov 19, 2017

There is a particular SP that I would like to see, and part of the screening process is references from 2 other SP's. I don't have any problem with that request as a safety measure, because SP's need to be careful, and their rules are their rules.

My problem is that I am a very occasional hobbyist, as in 2 or 3 times a year, and tend to stick with an SP I like. Unfortunately, the ones I have seen in the past are either retired, or were seen so long ago that it would be unlikely that they would specifically recall me. I've seen Catherine tog a number of times, but the last time was about 2 years ago. Juicy Lucy / Lady Lucy, about the same. Sara Toja...retired/moved. Saw Ziri literally the day before she retired. And as you can see, I prefer to gravitate to the more mature SP.

Any suggestions? Would love to hear any advice from the ladies on this.

Sophia Sinclair · Nov 19, 2017

For myself, if a gent doesn't have any reference or Linkedin profile I ask him to contact me for other ways to book me. However, it gets even more intrusive IMO, like scanning and sending me a piece of gov't issued ID (e.g. Driver's Licence) with his address blacked out, proving he is who he claims to be (i.e. name and age). It wouldn't hurt to give a handle as well but many don't like to do that and yours is obviously new and tells me little about you. A brief phone call is nice as it gives me a better sense of who you are and lends to the process.

Jasmine Raine · Nov 19, 2017

kugel2 said:
There is a particular SP that I would like to see, and part of the screening process is references from 2 other SP's. I don't have any problem with that request as a safety measure, because SP's need to be careful, and their rules are their rules.

My problem is that I am a very occasional hobbyist, as in 2 or 3 times a year, and tend to stick with an SP I like. Unfortunately, the ones I have seen in the past are either retired, or were seen so long ago that it would be unlikely that they would specifically recall me. I've seen Catherine tog a number of times, but the last time was about 2 years ago. Juicy Lucy / Lady Lucy, about the same. Sara Toja...retired/moved. Saw Ziri literally the day before she retired. And as you can see, I prefer to gravitate to the more mature SP.

Any suggestions? Would love to hear any advice from the ladies on this.

I just had a potential client ask me about this. He has never seen an escort before and had a very new TERB handle. Even if he gave me a work reference, it still would not have meant my criteria of two verifications types. Since I work from home, security is not something I mess around with.

I was happy to offer an outcall in my area, so long as I could confirm his hotel, I would have accepted that as a first-time visit. That is me though. Most ladies are not going to compromise on this so your best bet to is build up a reference list, or pass.

I would try contacting some of your past providers, you may be surprised. Asking them would not hurt in this case.

kugel2 · Nov 19, 2017

Thanks Sophia, makes sense. I guess I'm also a bit of an author of my own misfortune. At the beginning of this year, Terb was having some technical issues and I couldn't log on using my handle, "kugel1". So I relogged under my new handle "kugel2". My posts under the old one go back to 2005.

Jasmine Raine · Nov 19, 2017

kugel2 said:
Thanks Sophia, makes sense. I guess I'm also a bit of an author of my own misfortune. At the beginning of this year, Terb was having some technical issues and I couldn't log on using my handle, "kugel1". So I relogged under my new handle "kugel2". My posts under the old one go back to 2005.

I would certainly be telling any SP about that. It would help it reading more from you. You are not actually "new" and that could make a difference.

Sophia Sinclair · Nov 19, 2017

Jessica brings up an option I hadn't thought of (i.e. outcall). I didn't consider it because I figured most gents aren't willing to shell out the extra dough. I did recently reconnect with a former Mississauga client by having a $50 1 hr coffee date first. Everything unfolded well so we went back to my place and I took the coffee date money off my hourly fee.

Robert Mugabe · Nov 19, 2017

Sophia Sinclair said:
For myself, if a gent doesn't have any reference or Linkedin profile I ask him to contact me for other ways to book me. However, it gets even more intrusive IMO, like scanning and sending me a piece of gov't issued ID (e.g. Driver's Licence) with his address blacked out, proving he is who he claims to be (i.e. name and age). It wouldn't hurt to give a handle as well but many don't like to do that and yours is obviously new and tells me little about you. A brief phone call is nice as it gives me a better sense of who you are and lends to the process.

i find this scenario works just fine....sp plays the part of "deep throat"appropriately.

Jasmine Raine · Nov 19, 2017

Sophia Sinclair said:
Jessica brings up an option I hadn't thought of (i.e. outcall). I didn't consider it because I figured most gents aren't willing to shell out the extra dough. I did recently reconnect with a former Mississauga client by having a $50 1 hr coffee date first. Everything transpired well so we went back to my place and I took the money off my hourly fee.

If it is for Durham, and for a first time first, I will usually offer it at the incall price. I have also taken a client reference once for his friend who was not on review boards, LOL.

However, this offer is not always on the table either. It really depends on the communication attempted by the client. If a gentlemen is respectful and asking if there is another way he can be verified, I will make the offer. If a person emails, complaining or whining or at all pushing for lax in my policy, he is just politely told to find an escort more suited to his needs for booking.

Sophia Sinclair · Nov 19, 2017

Jessica Rain said:
I would certainly be telling any SP about that. It would help it reading more from you. You are not actually "new" and that could make a difference.

Not certain that will help. He joined in Oct. 2004, had 263 posts, but was Banned. Explains why he couldn't log in. :doh:

Jasmine Raine · Nov 19, 2017

Sophia Sinclair said:
Not certain that will help. He joined in Oct. 2004, had 263 posts, but was Banned. Explains why he couldn't log in.

I didn't search, just took him on his words. Not my client, so I didn't need to search posting history but does explain why he couldn't log in. That is true. LOL

malata · Nov 19, 2017

Sophia Sinclair said:
Not certain that will help. He joined in Oct. 2004, had 263 posts, but was Banned. Explains why he couldn't log in. :doh:

probably won't look good on his CV

kugel2 · Nov 19, 2017

Sophia Sinclair said:
Not certain that will help. He joined in Oct. 2004, had 263 posts, but was Banned. Explains why he couldn't log in. :doh:

Well now I'm completely confused. If you would check my posts and responses, I think you'll find that not only are they pretty mild for what else goes on here, but they are absent of any racism, personal derogatory comments, or any type of offensively questionable content. How does one query the reason for being banned?

Sophia Sinclair · Nov 19, 2017

kugel2 said:
Well now I'm completely confused. If you would check my posts and responses, I think you'll find that not only are they pretty mild for what else goes on here, but they are absent of any racism, personal derogatory comments, or any type of offensively questionable content. How does one query the reason for being banned?

I did and you're right, nothing untoward IMO. As it was put to me once by a very well known, reputable provider like myself, the moderators do not always moderate fairly. You can question the powers that be but it probably won't help. I base this on others I've known who were banned for seemingly nothing and their efforts were futile. I'd let it go under the radar.

kugel2 · Nov 19, 2017

Thanks Sophia, I appreciate you taking the time to take a look at my previous posts. I always try to be respectful, maybe sometimes sarcastic, but never hurtful or demeaning. I'm a touch north of 50 years old, I'm too old for that crap!! And that $50 coffee meet idea is brilliant.

JunoxGrey · Nov 19, 2017

kugel2 said:
Thanks Sophia, I appreciate you taking the time to take a look at my previous posts. I always try to be respectful, maybe sometimes sarcastic, but never hurtful or demeaning. I'm a touch north of 50 years old, I'm too old for that crap!! And that $50 coffee meet idea is brilliant.

But you have to realize that’s what EVERY client who’s sketchy or abusive says, not accusing you but the IM A NICE GUY! doesn’t do much

kugel2 · Nov 19, 2017

Absolutely agree with you. Words mean nothing, actions speak volumes. I have asked the mods about why I was banned from my previous handle (kugel1). I will be more than happy to post their response. You do have the ability to review my posts under "kugel1". If you find anything offside, I would love to know your thoughts.

sempel · Nov 19, 2017

A few points

1) If you were banned, wouldn't coming on here with a new handle and saying you were previously banned just flag you to be banned again? I'm not a fan of the ban procedure/reasoning but say you are banned, what's the point if you come on here with a new ID (which is an obvious loophole) but admit you were banned previously. Doesn't make sense, at least to me.
2) If an SP finds an outcall safer, I'm assuming she means hotel and not a condo. I fail to see how an outcall is any safer (in general). The obvious difference between incall/outcall is a nut now knows where you are located but still, if you aren't willing to see a person for incall, the outcall option doesn't make much sense as an alternate.
3) One of my favorite SP's (lol) posted a list of all the bad things that have happened to her or happen to other SP's. There were a bunch of incidents about regular clients going nutty, guys verifying friends only to have the friends behave badly, etc. So some bad things will happen no matter what.
4) The coffee date, IMO, is probably one of the better screening options. The other being a phonecall. I'm the type of guy who feels no coffee date will ever go sour i.e. the lady thinks I'm creepy/nuts/dangerous. In some cases it will be beneficial to determine the person and I are a good match or in some cases I'll save money by figuring we aren't a good match (doesn't really happen much with me). My only concern, and you can call me skeptical/paranoid, is there's going to be a provider or two who decides to capitalize by not seeing clients and just going on coffee dates. Obviously it's not as lucrative but I'm darn sure some ladies will pull that. Conversely, the lady who does free coffee dates will attract a few bums who use it as an opportunity for free company.

I wish every lady could be happy and safe and I'm sure most guys act accordingly but sadly, shit happens.

sempel · Nov 19, 2017

HannaMontreal said:
It is also easier to leave if something bad happens, in the situation you are not restrained. You grab your things and you leave. Kicking out someone of your home or incall location can be harder. There are always people at the front desk or near to help you in extreme situation. In our incall location, screams or loud noises can attract attention too if needed, but your neighbors will now be suspicious of what is happening in your place. As you mentioned, they won't know where you are located, so they can't harass or threaten to tell the management of your building what is happening in your condo. Outcall can have less consequences on your privacy. Basically yes, I am more inclined to see a client with no reference (first time seeing a courtesan) at his hotel (if other conditions are met too!)

Thanks - makes sense.

thecuriousgeorge · Nov 19, 2017

I would just move on...

There are 3 SP's i would love to see right now, but their screening is too intrusive for me, not worth the risk to me.

One sp, I passed her simple screening process by sharing my Terb handle, but because i would not give my actual phone number and was using an app, said she wont see me. Im not giving out my number as i've had it for almost 20 years and my name comes up when you google it. Im not bitter, just move along..

pussyluver · Nov 19, 2017

Consider seeing an agency girl. Try to visit one who has a Twitter presence - so you can contact her after and ask her to be a reference. Should be pretty simple

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