SP pre-screening advice

kugel2 · Nov 19, 2017

"1) If you were banned, wouldn't coming on here with a new handle and saying you were previously banned just flag you to be banned again? I'm not a fan of the ban procedure/reasoning but say you are banned, what's the point if you come on here with a new ID (which is an obvious loophole) but admit you were banned previously. Doesn't make sense, at least to me."

Exactly right sempel. As far as I know, I haven't done anything to support being banned. I thought my inability to log in was due to the technical issues at the beginning of the year, and thus that is why I have been open and upfront about it. My posts under my previous handle, "kugel1" are open and available for anyone to scrutinize. If the powers that be decide for whatever reason that this handle should be banned too, then I have no recourse. It would just cause me to re-register with another login identity, and keep my stupid yap shut about it.

I thank you for your insightful and constructive input.

kugel2 · Nov 19, 2017

HannaMontreal said:
It is also easier to leave if something bad happens, in the situation you are not restrained. You grab your things and you leave. Kicking out someone of your home or incall location can be harder. There are always people at the front desk or near to help you in extreme situation. In our incall location, screams or loud noises can attract attention too if needed, but your neighbors will now be suspicious of what is happening in your place. As you mentioned, they won't know where you are located, so they can't harass or threaten to tell the management of your building what is happening in your condo. Outcall can have less consequences on your privacy. Basically yes, I am more inclined to see a client with no reference (first time seeing a courtesan) at his hotel (if other conditions are met too!)

Completely understandable. As I said before, the SP makes the rules. Inasmuch as a hobbyist should "play safe", the ultimate safety consideration is towards the coutesan.

sempel · Nov 19, 2017

thecuriousgeorge said:
I would just move on...

There are 3 SP's i would love to see right now, but their screening is too intrusive for me, not worth the risk to me.

One sp, I passed her simple screening process by sharing my Terb handle, but because i would not give my actual phone number and was using an app, said she wont see me. Im not giving out my number as i've had it for almost 20 years and my name comes up when you google it. Im not bitter, just move along..

Considering what you pay the lady, just shell out for a burner. Seems like a minor issue easily resolved

kugel2 said:
"1) If you were banned, wouldn't coming on here with a new handle and saying you were previously banned just flag you to be banned again? I'm not a fan of the ban procedure/reasoning but say you are banned, what's the point if you come on here with a new ID (which is an obvious loophole) but admit you were banned previously. Doesn't make sense, at least to me."

Exactly right sempel. As far as I know, I haven't done anything to support being banned. I thought my inability to log in was due to the technical issues at the beginning of the year, and thus that is why I have been open and upfront about it. My posts under my previous handle, "kugel1" are open and available for anyone to scrutinize. If the powers that be decide for whatever reason that this handle should be banned too, then I have no recourse. It would just cause me to re-register with another login identity, and keep my stupid yap shut about it.

I thank you for your insightful and constructive input.

Lol - nothing personal. Just saying cause a diligent Mod might think the same.

Jasmine Raine · Nov 20, 2017

sempel said:
A few points

1) If you were banned, wouldn't coming on here with a new handle and saying you were previously banned just flag you to be banned again? I'm not a fan of the ban procedure/reasoning but say you are banned, what's the point if you come on here with a new ID (which is an obvious loophole) but admit you were banned previously. Doesn't make sense, at least to me.
2) If an SP finds an outcall safer, I'm assuming she means hotel and not a condo. I fail to see how an outcall is any safer (in general). The obvious difference between incall/outcall is a nut now knows where you are located but still, if you aren't willing to see a person for incall, the outcall option doesn't make much sense as an alternate.
3) One of my favorite SP's (lol) posted a list of all the bad things that have happened to her or happen to other SP's. There were a bunch of incidents about regular clients going nutty, guys verifying friends only to have the friends behave badly, etc. So some bad things will happen no matter what.
4) The coffee date, IMO, is probably one of the better screening options. The other being a phonecall. I'm the type of guy who feels no coffee date will ever go sour i.e. the lady thinks I'm creepy/nuts/dangerous. In some cases it will be beneficial to determine the person and I are a good match or in some cases I'll save money by figuring we aren't a good match (doesn't really happen much with me). My only concern, and you can call me skeptical/paranoid, is there's going to be a provider or two who decides to capitalize by not seeing clients and just going on coffee dates. Obviously it's not as lucrative but I'm darn sure some ladies will pull that. Conversely, the lady who does free coffee dates will attract a few bums who use it as an opportunity for free company.

I wish every lady could be happy and safe and I'm sure most guys act accordingly but sadly, shit happens.

Sweetie, I know you try but you really have no idea the other side of this coin. You are a client. Not an SP. You don't know all the ways we screen, what we screen for and how we know some of the things we know. No woman or agency owner is going to tell you all the things they do to secure a client either. Why would we publically state that? That just means others will come up with a way to by-pass it.

Now having said that. In this case where a man is trying to become your client, a first time appointment can tell a lady loads about what she needs to know. Since my incall is my private home, no - I don't want a potiental nut knowing where I live but beyond that, I am not saying I won't see the client for an incall. I am saying I need to see if I will see the client for an incall, by first offereing an outcall. I will see a client for incall when they meet my screening critera, but if they can't do that, because they don't have an SP reference, then I need to find out for myself if this client is respectful, clean, not a time waster. I do that in an outcall.

I did make it clear that it would only be to a hotel where I can confirm said client. Meaning calling the hotel to confirm John Doe is in room 1408. This confirms for me, his real name, and since I will only go to certain hotels, that means I know the hotel has his ID on file. So if he rapes and kills me, the police will know who to go after.

However, we [as in the SPs on this board] have not told you or others about behind the scenes things we do. Do you know which ladies use buddy systems? Do you know which ladies use personal security? Which ladies use self protiection devices? Do I tell an outcall client that I have a 6'7 350lbs man waiting in the parking lot in case I am 1 mins late in calling? Do I even have a 6'7 350lbs man as a friend? What about secuirty cameras? Do you know my self defense training? Do you know if I have a registered gun licence? The list goes on and on. You just don't know and making some of these "points" show that. And because you have made them, some ladies may open up about their security protocols which could open them up to some dangerous situations. Some food for thought.

I won't personally say I can offer an outcall as a "possible" first time screening tool. I won't personally say why I am able to safely provide incalls in my private home. I have set up my secrurity in the ways I feel will make me safer. To question those or to highlight what you think are faults in it, is really a waste of time and posting, IMHO, because you are purposely being left in the dark. Therefore your comments are ignorant of the facts and then can be considered arrogant to some. Might be some of the problem you have in regards to posting with some others on this board. Again, food for thought.

TeeJay · Nov 20, 2017

kugel2 said:
Any suggestions? Would love to hear any advice from the ladies on this.

Suggestions?
Don't do it

Funny how people are paranoid about personal info but are willing to trust an sp with their info?
Insanity

sempel · Nov 20, 2017

Jessica Rain said:
Sweetie, I know you try but you really have no idea the other side of this coin. You are a client. Not an SP. You don't know all the ways we screen, what we screen for and how we know some of the things we know. No woman or agency owner is going to tell you all the things they do to secure a client either. Why would we publically state that? That just means others will come up with a way to by-pass it.

Now having said that. In this case where a man is trying to become your client, a first time appointment can tell a lady loads about what she needs to know. Since my incall is my private home, no - I don't want a potiental nut knowing where I live but beyond that, I am not saying I won't see the client for an incall. I am saying I need to see if I will see the client for an incall, by first offereing an outcall. I will see a client for incall when they meet my screening critera, but if they can't do that, because they don't have an SP reference, then I need to find out for myself if this client is respectful, clean, not a time waster. I do that in an outcall.

I did make it clear that it would only be to a hotel where I can confirm said client. Meaning calling the hotel to confirm John Doe is in room 1408. This confirms for me, his real name, and since I will only go to certain hotels, that means I know the hotel has his ID on file. So if he rapes and kills me, the police will know who to go after.

However, we [as in the SPs on this board] have not told you or others about behind the scenes things we do. Do you know which ladies use buddy systems? Do you know which ladies use personal security? Which ladies use self protiection devices? Do I tell an outcall client that I have a 6'7 350lbs man waiting in the parking lot in case I am 1 mins late in calling? Do I even have a 6'7 350lbs man as a friend? What about secuirty cameras? Do you know my self defense training? Do you know if I have a registered gun licence? The list goes on and on. You just don't know and making some of these "points" show that. And because you have made them, some ladies may open up about their security protocols which could open them up to some dangerous situations. Some food for thought.

I won't personally say I can offer an outcall as a "possible" first time screening tool. I won't personally say why I am able to safely provide incalls in my private home. I have set up my secrurity in the ways I feel will make me safer. To question those or to highlight what you think are faults in it, is really a waste of time and posting, IMHO, because you are purposely being left in the dark. Therefore your comments are ignorant of the facts and then can be considered arrogant to some. Might be some of the problem you have in regards to posting with some others on this board. Again, food for thought.

Based on what you wrote, I think you kind of misinterpreted what I was saying.

1) was simply a comment about Terb procedures. A person gets banned but then signs up again. Now here's a guy who's stating he was banned (let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was not warranted) and he's using a different id. IMO, shouldn't he be banned again? What's the point of banning someone otherwise?
2) This was me not knowing how an outcall is more safe than an incall so I was just looking for a simple explanation.
3) was just the sad state of affairs. Some guys will be jerks in different circumstances.
4) was just a blurb about coffee dates.

Wasn't looking for a detailed story just some more info. One lady replied with some answers, as did you. Wasn't questioning anybody's security measures, including yours.

kugel2 · Nov 20, 2017

Jessica Rain said:
Sweetie, I know you try but you really have no idea the other side of this coin. You are a client. Not an SP. You don't know all the ways we screen, what we screen for and how we know some of the things we know. No woman or agency owner is going to tell you all the things they do to secure a client either. Why would we publically state that? That just means others will come up with a way to by-pass it.

Now having said that. In this case where a man is trying to become your client, a first time appointment can tell a lady loads about what she needs to know. Since my incall is my private home, no - I don't want a potiental nut knowing where I live but beyond that, I am not saying I won't see the client for an incall. I am saying I need to see if I will see the client for an incall, by first offereing an outcall. I will see a client for incall when they meet my screening critera, but if they can't do that, because they don't have an SP reference, then I need to find out for myself if this client is respectful, clean, not a time waster. I do that in an outcall.

I did make it clear that it would only be to a hotel where I can confirm said client. Meaning calling the hotel to confirm John Doe is in room 1408. This confirms for me, his real name, and since I will only go to certain hotels, that means I know the hotel has his ID on file. So if he rapes and kills me, the police will know who to go after.

However, we [as in the SPs on this board] have not told you or others about behind the scenes things we do. Do you know which ladies use buddy systems? Do you know which ladies use personal security? Which ladies use self protiection devices? Do I tell an outcall client that I have a 6'7 350lbs man waiting in the parking lot in case I am 1 mins late in calling? Do I even have a 6'7 350lbs man as a friend? What about secuirty cameras? Do you know my self defense training? Do you know if I have a registered gun licence? The list goes on and on. You just don't know and making some of these "points" show that. And because you have made them, some ladies may open up about their security protocols which could open them up to some dangerous situations. Some food for thought.

I won't personally say I can offer an outcall as a "possible" first time screening tool. I won't personally say why I am able to safely provide incalls in my private home. I have set up my secrurity in the ways I feel will make me safer. To question those or to highlight what you think are faults in it, is really a waste of time and posting, IMHO, because you are purposely being left in the dark. Therefore your comments are ignorant of the facts and then can be considered arrogant to some. Might be some of the problem you have in regards to posting with some others on this board. Again, food for thought.

Sorry if I started a poop storm here Jessica, that was certainly not my intent. I stand by my opinion that an SP's rules are her rules, and she is the one in charge. Period.

Annalise Lane · Nov 21, 2017

TeeJay said:
Suggestions?
Don't do it

Funny how people are paranoid about personal info but are willing to trust an sp with their info?
Insanity

So your penis is more important then a gals safety ? That's insanity. A client goes sideways, how do we make sure he's charged ?

kugel2 said:
Sorry if I started a poop storm here Jessica, that was certainly not my intent. I stand by my opinion that an SP's rules are her rules, and she is the one in charge. Period.

I wouldn't say you have started a shit storm, you have brought up a topic that is sensitive for both parties. Ladies want to feel safe, men want to keep discrete. Understanding both sides is education and more of these talks is ideal to get a better understanding. Knowledge is power, these posts arm both sides.

In 13 years I've never had a bad date. I screen very uniquely and it weeds out those who might have bad intentions.

Jasmine Raine · Nov 22, 2017

sempel said:
Based on what you wrote, I think you kind of misinterpreted what I was saying.

1) was simply a comment about Terb procedures. A person gets banned but then signs up again. Now here's a guy who's stating he was banned (let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was not warranted) and he's using a different id. IMO, shouldn't he be banned again? What's the point of banning someone otherwise?
2) This was me not knowing how an outcall is more safe than an incall so I was just looking for a simple explanation.
3) was just the sad state of affairs. Some guys will be jerks in different circumstances.
4) was just a blurb about coffee dates.

Wasn't looking for a detailed story just some more info. One lady replied with some answers, as did you. Wasn't questioning anybody's security measures, including yours.

I am not misunderstanding you at all. I think you are misunderstanding me though.

I was not talking about point 1 or 3 or 4. I was pointing out that number two is really none of your business and I understand what you are trying to say, but you make blanket statements that come across as just plain "off-side" sometimes.

So for #2 - you made a blanket statement, with a judgment.

a] outcalls and incalls have the same security risks
b] if you do one and not the other, you are stupid/naive/prissy even. You can pick a few words to go in there.

You didn't ask, and really, why should you be asking? Why is it any of your business? I understand being curious, but sometimes we need to think about others before we post and this is a great example of that.

You are curious about an aspect of SP life, but would SPs want the general public to know? Is that why no one really truly does know? Is that why there are no threads/posts on this topic? These are things you should be asking before making blanket statements. In regards to topics about safety, screening, etc. we are only going to give you little tidbits of info. Giving more could help asshole who wish us harm to actually succeed.

You love to debate, you enjoy posting on this board, and you have known difficulty posting with some of the people here. There is a way that some of that can be changed, but you will never know unless someone politely explains that. This is me attempting to do so.

kugel2 said:
Sorry if I started a poop storm here Jessica, that was certainly not my intent. I stand by my opinion that an SP's rules are her rules, and she is the one in charge. Period.

This derailed from your OP and I take my responsibility for that. I did feel you got your answers that you were looking for, so it is I that apologize to you for derailing your thread.

sempel · Nov 22, 2017

Jessica Rain said:
I am not misunderstanding you at all. I think you are misunderstanding me though.

I was not talking about point 1 or 3 or 4. I was pointing out that number two is really none of your business and I understand what you are trying to say, but you make blanket statements that come across as just plain "off-side" sometimes.

So for #2 - you made a blanket statement, with a judgment.

a] outcalls and incalls have the same security risks
b] if you do one and not the other, you are stupid/naive/prissy even. You can pick a few words to go in there.

You didn't ask, and really, why should you be asking? Why is it any of your business? I understand being curious, but sometimes we need to think about others before we post and this is a great example of that.

You are curious about an aspect of SP life, but would SPs want the general public to know? Is that why no one really truly does know? Is that why there are no threads/posts on this topic? These are things you should be asking before making blanket statements. In regards to topics about safety, screening, etc. we are only going to give you little tidbits of info. Giving more could help asshole who wish us harm to actually succeed.

You love to debate, you enjoy posting on this board, and you have known difficulty posting with some of the people here. There is a way that some of that can be changed, but you will never know unless someone politely explains that. This is me attempting to do so.
.

If I failed to make it clear that I was looking for an explanation, fair enough - I apologize. And when I say outcall I assume the person's condo or a hotel booked by the client, not the SP. That was not clear either. I was not thinking about the cases where the SP has booked the hotel. But I was not making the firm judgement that an outcall wasn't safer.

You make some valid points - there are some questions that perhaps shouldn't be asked. And yes, I am very curious and I can go overboard. But I am of the mind that any question can be asked. It doesn't mean it will be answered, and be prepared for the consequences.

In this case, I just wanted to know how an outcall was safer. CE (my "favorite") brought up an incident where she went to dinner with a guy, then went back to his hotel room, and things went bad. So I don't think I'm totally wrong in thinking bad things can also happen in an outcall situation, which is why I didn't understand why a lady would say no to incall but yes to outcall. I was also not interested in a detailed breakdown of every possible security measure a lady can/will take. And I don't think anyone is stupid for doing outcall but not incall so point (b) is a hell of a stretch.

Another lady gave a simple answer and that was fine - it was all I was looking for. I sent you a PM and mentioned that I really don't care about specifics and I would never put a lady in position where she needed to use them. And while I have no interest in specifics, think about this - on one hand by discussing security measures there might be a fellow or two who may use that to his advantage. But on the other hand, I'm sure info like this might also dissuade some guys who think an outcall is not protected from trying anything.

Again, didn't mean to offend, didn't mean to step on toes - sorry for that.

Jasmine Raine · Nov 22, 2017

sempel said:
If I failed to make it clear that I was looking for an explanation, fair enough - I apologize. And when I say outcall I assume the person's condo or a hotel booked by the client, not the SP. That was not clear either. I was not thinking about the cases where the SP has booked the hotel. But I was not making the firm judgement that an outcall wasn't safer.

Yes, that is an outcall. You are correct in that assumption. SP booking the hotel would be an incall. The only reason that makes a difference is a guy would have to give his ID, so confirmation of real name is made that way. The condo would also have his ID and information. It adds a level of security because it ensures real info was given.

You were not making a judgment that one was safer, you made a blanket statement that suggested both were equal in their safety risks.

sempel said:
You make some valid points - there are some questions that perhaps shouldn't be asked. And yes, I am very curious and I can go overboard. But I am of the mind that any question can be asked. It doesn't mean it will be answered, and be prepared for the consequences.

And here we will disagree. There are questions you just don't ask. You are right that you will not always get an answer, but yes there are questions you should not ask or else you are seen as rude, pushy, overwhelming, noisy, fishing, etc. Some people already feel this way about you. It would go along way in changing that if you thought about some of these things beforehand. Not everyone wants to or should have to put up with you going overboard. You should be making an attempted not to go overboard. There are boundaries for a reason.

sempel said:
In this case, I just wanted to know how an outcall was safer. CE (my "favorite") brought up an incident where she went to dinner with a guy, then went back to his hotel room, and things went bad. So I don't think I'm totally wrong in thinking bad things can also happen in an outcall situation, which is why I didn't understand why a lady would say no to incall but yes to outcall. I was also not interested in a detailed breakdown of every possible security measure a lady can/will take. And I don't think anyone is stupid for doing outcall but not incall so point (b) is a hell of a stretch.

Two points here

1. it is an unattractive trait when you keep calling CE your favourite when knowing the past between you. That just comes off as a dig for no reasons. You have done this twice now in the past couple of days and she has not even been posting.
2. I never said you were wrong in your thinking. I am not saying that at all. I am strictly talking about the reasons behind the words and how those words affect your posting and standing in this community.

sempel said:
Another lady gave a simple answer and that was fine - it was all I was looking for. I sent you a PM and mentioned that I really don't care about specifics and I would never put a lady in position where she needed to use them. And while I have no interest in specifics, think about this - on one hand by discussing security measures there might be a fellow or two who may use that to his advantage. But on the other hand, I'm sure info like this might also dissuade some guys who think an outcall is not protected from trying anything.

Again, didn't mean to offend, didn't mean to step on toes - sorry for that.

You are right that it can go both ways, so what? For the couple of guys that may use it or a couple of guys that may be deterred, what does that have to do with you and your reasons for posting? And why do you get to decide which would be more important? Should it not be for the escort to decide? So when you are asking about SP policy, I just think the fair thing to do is ask yourself first if your curiosity is more important than her right to privacy on that topic.

And then I have to ask, why not go ask others all about their business practices and policies, and setups? Do you ask your lawyer or dentist or whatever, why their rates are what they are? Seriously, do you not feel or see at all how all of these questions and curiosities over all these months on TERB, can be seen by others an intrusive? You are not going to be an escort, so why the need for all the questions in the first place? Detailed answers or not.

Again, some areas I am trying to point out for you. You keep wanting to debate the outcall/incall but I am not talking about that at all. I am strictly speaking of your choices reagarding statements, comments, questions etc. Honestly, no different then when I asked Jeffery93 why he posts with such negativity. I am not talking about this individual thread, I am trying to open your mind about HOW you post and HOW that comes across to others.

I hope that makes it more clear, but if not, I don't want to continue to waste these threads explaining it.

Annalise Lane · Nov 22, 2017

Holy fuck Jessica you are one patient lady.

Jasmine Raine · Nov 22, 2017

Annalise Lane said:
Holy fuck Jessica you are one patient lady.

LOL - I have been told.

Annalise Lane · Nov 22, 2017

Jessica Rain said:
LOL - I have been told.

These personalities are everywhere but if on my job site they will get "shut your pie hole". On a forum where the men are anonymous they can say, be and do whatever they want. The question is : are they like this with the general public?

gridflirt · Nov 22, 2017

thecuriousgeorge said:
I would just move on...

There are 3 SP's i would love to see right now, but their screening is too intrusive for me, not worth the risk to me.

I would have like to have had your foresight. Giving out personal information makes one too vulnerable. (too easy to find out all about you and your family, especially if you have Social media presence.I have never discussed my hobbying with anyone in my civilian world. The fact that my wife was sent a link to a SW that I spent time with could only have come from someone in the industry.

when I look back on my life I would categorically say that giving out my personal information was the biggest regret ever... I don't know if my SO will survive it but looking at her I can see she's just devastated.

Gf

Sophia Sinclair · Nov 22, 2017

I hear you gridflirt, but we're not all bad.

I started this thread Discretion Please on May 28, 2015 https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?526228-Discretion-Please.

What happened to you is unfortunate but please don't paint us all with the same brush. Many of us are professional and respect your privacy as much as we ask you to respect ours!

kugel2 · Nov 22, 2017

Jessica...you did not derail my post, you have brought important points that developed from my original query. All information is good information. If nothing else, I think it more than reinforces my position that the safety of the is paramount. Annalise and Sophia, I think your positions have opened my eyes as to some very important points of view, and for those I thank you. And if it was not for sempel's input, much of this discussion would have remained unsaid.

I think I can say that although this went way beyond what I was searching for, the discussion hasn't denegrated into a name calling, minimization of opinions or points of view. For that I thank you all.

gridflirt · Nov 22, 2017

Sophia Sinclair said:
I hear you gridflirt, but we're not all bad.

I started this thread Discretion Please on May 28, 2015 https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?526228-Discretion-Please.

What happened to you is unfortunate but please don't paint us all with the same brush. Many of us are professional and respect your privacy as much as we ask you to respect ours!

Ms. Sinclair you are absolutely right. You're not all bad. In fact being totally honest the accountability for this mess is completely on me. That said the SW's I've spent time with are really nice people. If they remained professional relationships none of this would have happened.

Gf

TeeJay · Nov 22, 2017

Annalise Lane said:
So your penis is more important then a gals safety ? That's insanity. A client goes sideways, how do we make sure he's charged ?

What's insanity is that somehow the SP expects her client to give up identifiable info but then she wants her privacy

As to charging a client we all know they are in an incredibly small percentage, or if it was ever that common woman would not choose to work & brag about working in the industry in the first place
I would be willing to wager more SPs have fucked up a clients life (work or personal) than gotten themselves assaulted/robbed etc

Plus the obvious fact the police do not need the SPs help since they can easily refer to cameras etc for evidence
Ever see that arrest rate for random park rapists? Without any known info before

sempel · Nov 23, 2017

Jessica Rain said:
Yes, that is an outcall. You are correct in that assumption. SP booking the hotel would be an incall. The only reason that makes a difference is a guy would have to give his ID, so confirmation of real name is made that way. The condo would also have his ID and information. It adds a level of security because it ensures real info was given.

You were not making a judgment that one was safer, you made a blanket statement that suggested both were equal in their safety risks.

And here we will disagree. There are questions you just don't ask. You are right that you will not always get an answer, but yes there are questions you should not ask or else you are seen as rude, pushy, overwhelming, noisy, fishing, etc. Some people already feel this way about you. It would go along way in changing that if you thought about some of these things beforehand. Not everyone wants to or should have to put up with you going overboard. You should be making an attempted not to go overboard. There are boundaries for a reason.

Two points here

1. it is an unattractive trait when you keep calling CE your favourite when knowing the past between you. That just comes off as a dig for no reasons. You have done this twice now in the past couple of days and she has not even been posting.
2. I never said you were wrong in your thinking. I am not saying that at all. I am strictly talking about the reasons behind the words and how those words affect your posting and standing in this community.

You are right that it can go both ways, so what? For the couple of guys that may use it or a couple of guys that may be deterred, what does that have to do with you and your reasons for posting? And why do you get to decide which would be more important? Should it not be for the escort to decide? So when you are asking about SP policy, I just think the fair thing to do is ask yourself first if your curiosity is more important than her right to privacy on that topic.

And then I have to ask, why not go ask others all about their business practices and policies, and setups? Do you ask your lawyer or dentist or whatever, why their rates are what they are? Seriously, do you not feel or see at all how all of these questions and curiosities over all these months on TERB, can be seen by others an intrusive? You are not going to be an escort, so why the need for all the questions in the first place? Detailed answers or not.

Again, some areas I am trying to point out for you. You keep wanting to debate the outcall/incall but I am not talking about that at all. I am strictly speaking of your choices reagarding statements, comments, questions etc. Honestly, no different then when I asked Jeffery93 why he posts with such negativity. I am not talking about this individual thread, I am trying to open your mind about HOW you post and HOW that comes across to others.

I hope that makes it more clear, but if not, I don't want to continue to waste these threads explaining it.

I understand some of my posts/comments may rub people the wrong way. I am a curious guy, I do like to discuss and debate, and the more information I have about anything, the better. That actually does include speaking to other professionals about their businesses, how they work, etc. But I never ask for incomes and I've never asked them or any SP's why their rates are their rates.

What you may not realize is I have talked to a few providers about their work. Sure, providers will help each other out and advise each other, but I'm sure you'll agree, it's a different perspective. One new SP asked me for advice and I gave her some suggestions, including screening, when I met her cause she didn't know very much. Some girls do their own thing and don't really interact with other providers. Now, I'm not saying I'm a guru,and my advice is the gospel truth and that every SP should ask me for advice. But if a question is asked, it's nice to be able to answer it, especially if the answer can improve things for the person.

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