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Here’s one reason Canada should have the death penalty

IM469

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Paradise by the dashboard light.
Obviously he simply lacks social skills which can be readily cured by letting him mix with the regular prison population during his incarceration.
do you think bending over to pick up the bar of soap might do him any good?


 

danmand

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There are no good reasons for the death penalty, and none of the Canadian parties support it.
 

rhuarc29

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There are no good reasons for the death penalty, and none of the Canadian parties support it.
I disagree. I support the death penalty if two conditions are met: (1) the evidence is irrefutable, and (2) the accompanying sentence exceeds the life expectancy of the perpetrator, with no chance of parole. In such a case, why keep them alive?
 

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I disagree. I support the death penalty if two conditions are met: (1) the evidence is irrefutable, and (2) the accompanying sentence exceeds the life expectancy of the perpetrator, with no chance of parole. In such a case, why keep them alive?
Some people say there is more suffering if you keep them alive and in jail rather than a quick death.
 

james t kirk

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But most Canadians support it. Most polls for years show they do.
I've never heard of such an attitude by Canadians.

I think most people may talk tough, but if they had to actually pull the leaver, it would be a different story.
 

sempel

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I've never heard of such an attitude by Canadians.

I think most people may talk tough, but if they had to actually pull the leaver, it would be a different story.
Really? There's probably a decent sized group that wants it. And pulling the lever yourself is totally different than supporting it - I enjoy eating meat but would never enjoy hunting.

Is anybody else outraged because the sentence is only 12 years? Viewing is one thing but you're in a different category all together if you are producing it. Plus 12 years doesn't mean he will likely serve an actual 12 years - time served, good behavior, parole, etc.

He'll most likely be put in a separate wing from gen pop - wife killers/abusers and child molesters are not treated kindly, and honestly, they shouldn't be. But sicko's like this should be in prison for a VERY long time. Do I think he needs help? Yes. But he clearly had the capacity to plan, spend money to produce, etc. Doesn't seem like an insane person who isn't responsible.
 

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Now, now HM .. Let's rise above that initial reaction and look at the challenge of helping him. Obviously he simply lacks social skills which can be readily cured by letting him mix with the regular prison population during his incarceration.
I am all for prison justice. Guys like him are the lowest form of life in prison and there is no way you can rehabilitate a mind that is so far gone. I was reading that in US prisons, the guards work with the gangs to make assaults and the killing of these sick pedos happen.
 

rhuarc29

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Some people say there is more suffering if you keep them alive and in jail rather than a quick death.
I would agree with that statement. But to me, prison time is about rehabilitation and future prevention. If it's just about punishment, that's a lot of money to spend just so someone is punished for their actions for the rest of their lives.
 

sempel

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I would agree with that statement. But to me, prison time is about rehabilitation and future prevention. If it's just about punishment, that's a lot of money to spend just so someone is punished for their actions for the rest of their lives.
Prison is about rehab and future prevention, but it's also about deterrence. If I steal $1000 I'm going to get a shorter sentence than a guy who steals $1 million. Are we different? Do we both need different types of rehab/education to know what we did was wrong? No. So the longer sentence is also just a deterrent.

The goal of every prison is to keep criminals separate from society so they can't harm us. But since time away isn't necessarily going to prevent re-offending, prisons also need to rehabilitate and be educate so when a person is released, they can re-join society quickly and easily.

Now, considering the estimate to house a prisoner for one year averages $100k, to house a prisoner for 50-60 years seems like a huge waste of resources. So 2 choices - either decrease the overall cost by imposing the death penalty OR significantly lower the cost of housing a prisoner. Shared cells, prisoners doing labour for the government, lower admin costs, etc. Sometimes capital punishment makes sense simply from an economic standpoint.
 

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Death is not a punishment. When they die, they stop existing. So, did you really punish anybody? Give a life sentence and they suffer for years, or torture.
 

sempel

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Death is not a punishment. When they die, they stop existing. So, did you really punish anybody? Give a life sentence and they suffer for years.
Schadenfreude - is the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of another. Not so much justice as vengeance...
 

IM469

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Death is not a punishment. When they die, they stop existing. So, did you really punish anybody? Give a life sentence and they suffer for years, or torture.
My viewpoint. If I'm murdered I prefer the bastard to rot in jail for eternity. Death prevents him from regretting his actions. Plus if they do get the wrong guy, they can always correct the error.
 

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Not for the death penalty although some do deserve it. Against the way prison is set up, pecking order develops. Killers should be put into solitary for life, no parole, no exercise, just three meals shoved under the door daily. No electronic entertainment, books only.
 

sempel

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My viewpoint. If I'm murdered I prefer the bastard to rot in jail for eternity. Death prevents him from regretting his actions. Plus if they do get the wrong guy, they can always correct the error.
I'm under the impression they don't carry it out immediately. So there is time for regret
 

jcpro

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I'm against the death penalty,but I'm sure of one thing. Put it to the referendum in Canada and the death side will win easily.
 

IM469

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I'm under the impression they don't carry it out immediately. So there is time for regret
Not enough if it was my murderer. Death penalty is a mercy killing. Put him/her in a hole but day after day, week after week, year after year - let the prick regret it for eternity. My only additional request ... is a lit protected photo of me smiling at him
 
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