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bver_hunter

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If Trump goes tomorrow I'm good. Id sit back and probably watch some sort if constutional crisis unfold. A massive drama that would entertain as well as any game of thrones season.

What I continue to hope for is the lessening of power of both parties. And the rise of an actual progressive party in the USA.

That only occurs when they kill themselves. And that is what we are starting to see right now. Hopefully we see both parties split. And as a result the end of gerymandered incumbency.

Trump to me is an excellent tool and catalyst for the chaos needed to see this. His obvious failings shine a light on ALL the failings of both party establishments. Their lies and hypocrisies.

So feel free to remove Trump. It will imo escalate the divisions and demise of the two party system.
In that case I agree. There are failings on both sides. Yes, Trump has been a disaster especially for us Canadians, by trying to screw the NAFTA deal totally. He has lied regarding the 13 women's allegations and like Clinton should be investigated and impeached.
 

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I agree. But the Dem leadership saw this in the campaign and since as the wedge issue. ....
A human issue.

And no, the Democrats and "liberals" have been taking accountability for their flaws. The far right has been denying they did anything wrong. You should be applauding the Dems for being consistent and not playing it as a political issue.
 

Butler1000

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A human issue.

And no, the Democrats and "liberals" have been taking accountability for their flaws. The far right has been denying they did anything wrong. You should be applauding the Dems for being consistent and not playing it as a political issue.
The leader of the dems in florida was busted and is denying it. A judge running in Ohio is defending him.

The Clinton too obvious for numerous transgretions.

And the capital is rife with it and silence reigns. Even Dem lawmakers who have been harassed refuse to name names.

Small credit to Frankin for coming clean. Too much dirty otherwise to not equate them.

And please don't try to tell me the Dems are angels. They are just as bad.

As oft stated it isn't a partisan issue. The issue is systemic harassment and silence on the hill.

They all need to be busted and house cleaned. With REAL consequences for their actions.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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How are accusations against Spacey and Franken any different than the accusations against Trump or Moore?
For one there is photographic evidence and admission of guilt with Franken, not with Moore or Trump
 

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For one there is photographic evidence and admission of guilt with Franken, not with Moore or Trump
There is a recording of Trump bragging about his harassment, and I recall seeing him apologize for it. Or did he only apologize for bragging about it? Lol
 

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I would even go so far and assert that it was Bill Clinton who brought down the final obstacle on Trump's way to the White House. The now famous tarmac meeting did galvanise Trump supporters, but Bill's behavior in the Oval Office(and before), and the massive media's protective cover that he received, really blunted the effects of of the Billy Bush tape. The American electorate have been inoculated against such revelations and the subsequent "outrage" sounded kind of hollow.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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There is a recording of Trump bragging about his harassment, and I recall seeing him apologize for it. Or did he only apologize for bragging about it? Lol
There is nothing illegal about grabbing women by the pussy so long as they consent to it (and enjoy it). Similar to what happens everytime you book an SP.

Nowhere in Trump's recording was there any mention of him bragging about doing it against women's will
 

danmand

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There is nothing illegal about grabbing women by the pussy so long as they consent to it (and enjoy it). Similar to what happens everytime you book an SP.

Nowhere in Trump's recording was there any mention of him bragging about doing it against women's will
You are interpreting his words different than I am.
 

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Sorry but this shouldn't be a partisan issue. Most people agree that sexual harassment is bad. The only partisan part is how quickly the far right are willing to shit on Hollywood and Franken while still standing by Trump and Moore.
Like the left stood by Clinton?

There is this little item of proof, right now there isn’t any with Trump or Moore.

It should also be noticed that the GOP establishment has called out Moore, unlike the Dems and Bubba.
 

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A human issue.

And no, the Democrats and "liberals" have been taking accountability for their flaws. The far right has been denying they did anything wrong. You should be applauding the Dems for being consistent and not playing it as a political issue.
Not in Hollywood:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...y-assaulting-actress-aurora-perrineau-1059660

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-harvey-weinstein-defenders-20171013-story.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gay-talese-defends-kevin-spacey-jesus-suck-it-up-once-in-a-while

Not in Washington:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2...ranken-and-dem-sex-predators-youll-see-today/

https://youtu.be/uo28PB_ZxLQ

https://mobile.twitter.com/eheisig/...lone-just-fyi-ive-probably-boinked-50-chicks/

https://mobile.twitter.com/Philippe...librand-know-now-think-bill-clinton-resigned/

But the lefts greatest sin is supporting and looking past the grand master himself and his slut shaming enabling spouse. Vast right wing conspiracy my ass....

https://www.theatlantic.com/enterta...ckoning-with-bill-clintons-sex-crimes/545729/
 

Butler1000

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There is a photo of him pretending to grab boobs for the camera.
You call that assault?
Nope. But the admission he forced a kiss on her is.
 

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I only go after dems more because of the supposed progressive values they espouse but really don't care about.
Sort of like the high morality of god fearing, creationist Repubs who date 14 year olds.
 

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For one there is photographic evidence and admission of guilt with Franken, not with Moore or Trump
The photo has Franken (in bad taste) pretending to grope her. Sure a long way from dating teens and grabbing her by the pussy. His harassment was about putting kiss scenes into the act and using that as a pretext to harass her.
 

bver_hunter

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Like the left stood by Clinton?

There is this little item of proof, right now there isn’t any with Trump or Moore.

It should also be noticed that the GOP establishment has called out Moore, unlike the Dems and Bubba.
What sexual allegations are there against Hillary Clinton? Why are the GOP not calling out on Trump's sexual assaults?? Ex President Clinton was investigated and impeached. There was a vote in the two houses. Do the same fro Trump. Moore is a paedophile and should withdraw his candidacy. Al Franken has apologised but he should step down, as should Trump. Otherwise, this hypocrite should go through the same process as Bill Clinton did.
 

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What sexual allegations are there against Hillary Clinton? Why are the GOP not calling out on Trump's sexual assaults?? Ex President Clinton was investigated and impeached. There was a vote in the two houses. Do the same fro Trump. Moore is a paedophile and should withdraw his candidacy. Al Franken has apologised but he should step down, as should Trump. Otherwise, this hypocrite should go through the same process as Bill Clinton did.
Clinton was impeached for a consensual blowjob.
Trump is still in power.
 
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