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Child molestation allegations against Moore; calls for withdrawal

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WASHINGTON — Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, said on Thursday that if Roy S. Moore made sexual overtures to four women when they were teenagers, as they allege, the Republican Party nominee for a Senate seat in Alabama should step aside ahead of a Dec. 12 special election.

“If these allegations are true, he must step aside,” Mr. McConnell said in a statement after The Washington Post posted a story online in which the women said in on-the-record interviews that Mr. Moore had pursued them in the 1970s and 1980s when he was an attorney in his early 30s.

Mr. Moore was defiant, denying the charges and attacking the news media.

“These allegations are completely false and are a desperate political attack by the National Democrat Party and The Washington Post on this campaign,” he said in a statement.

Brett Doster, an adviser to Mr. Moore, said the candidate would “absolutely not” drop out of the race, calling the charges “a fabricated November surprise.” Mr. Doster said the campaign had not yet heard from Mr. McConnell or any Senate leaders.

And some in Alabama shrugged. “There’s nothing to see here,” said Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler, a longtime supporter of Mr. Moore. “Single man, early 30s, never been married, dating teenage girls. Never been married and he liked younger girls. According to the Washington Post account he never had sexual intercourse with any of them.”

But Mr. Moore’s candidacy was in grave danger. Senate Republicans moved en masse to distance themselves from their nominee almost as soon as the news story was posted.

“If these allegations are true, his candidacy is not sustainable,” said Senator John Cornyn of Texas, the second-ranking Republican. Mr. Cornyn said he wanted to know more before withdrawing his endorsement of Mr. Moore.

Those statements were repeated by numerous Republican senators.

Republicans, already reeling from the election losses they suffered on Tuesday, have only a two-seat majority in the Senate and are facing a handful of difficult elections next year.

Mr. Moore’s candidacy had already worried party leaders who had embraced the controversial former state Supreme Court justice despite his long record of incendiary comments about gays, Muslims and African-Americans, to protect the Senate seat once held by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

But Alabama election law appears to indicate, with little ambiguity, that the deadline has passed for candidates to be replaced on the ballot. The state election code says a candidate who wishes to withdraw from a race must do so 76 days before Election Day. The Alabama vote is in little more than a month.

“First of all, it’s too late to substitute a candidate,” said John Merrill, the Alabama secretary of state, a Republican. “Judge Moore will be the candidate on the ballot with this election cycle remaining on the schedule it’s currently on.”

Republican lawyers and strategists in Washington were engaged in a furious search on Thursday for creative ways around that restriction, seeking a loophole that would allow the state Republican Party’s leadership to anoint a new candidate. The prospect of a write-in candidacy, for a third candidate, was also under consideration, according to party aides.

Senator Lisa Murkowski, Republican of Alaska who ran her own successful write-in campaign in 2010, said, “If in fact what I just read is true, he needs to get out of this race immediately. I think it’s pretty clear cut. If this is true, he should not be in this race at all.”

She called for Senator Luther Strange, who was appointed to fill Mr. Sessions’ seat but lost to Mr. Moore in a bitterly contested Republican runoff in September, to run as a write-in.

One of the women, Leigh Corfman, told The Washington Post that she was 14 when Mr. Moore, 32 at the time, drove her to his home in Gadsden, Ala. He took off her shirt and touched her bra and underwear while also guiding her hand over his pants, Ms. Corfman told The Post.

“I wanted it over with — I wanted out,” she told the newspaper. “Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.”

Republican leaders appeared to be in a politically untenable situation, saddled with an embattled nominee unwilling to step aside in one of the country’s most conservative states. The charges immediately reignited hostilities between Mr. McConnell’s political allies, who poured millions into the campaign to stop Mr. Moore, and President Trump’s former chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, who rallied support for the former justice.

“This is what happens when you let reckless, incompetent idiots like Steve Bannon go out and recruit candidate who have absolutely no business running for the U.S. Senate,” said Josh Holmes, a former McConnell aide.

Mr. Bannon did not immediately reply to text messages or phone calls, but Breitbart posted a story with Mr. Moore’s statement shortly before the Post published its story.

Steven Law, the head of a McConnell-aligned “super PAC” which led an onslaught against Mr. Moore in the Republican runoff, did not wait for a guilty verdict before he excoriated Breitbart for “defending ‘consensual’ sex between a 32-year-old and a 16-year-old.”

Private polling taken by both parties has shown that while Mr. Moore retains a passionate following among conservatives, he is a deeply divisive figure among more moderate Republicans.


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In Alabama, Republicans were not immediately convinced that the story would end the candidacy of Mr. Moore, and few believed that he would drop out. He has been twice removed from the state supreme court but never lost an election.

But party officials worried that the charges would convince moderate Republicans to stay home on Election Day or cast their ballot for the Democratic candidate, Doug Jones.

“With this kind of revelation, it’s not the people who are the ardent Moore supporters, but the Moore folks who are questionably in his camp, who are voting for him because it’s the thing to do. They are going to be put off by it and might well stay home,” said Cleveland Poole, the chairman of the Republican Party in rural Butler County.

Mr. Moore, who rose to national prominence over his refusal to remove a tablet of the Ten Commandments from the Alabama Supreme Court, enjoys a committed following from his fellow Evangelical Christians. But many Republicans in Alabama, particularly in the state’s most affluent and urban areas, have little regard for him.

Mr. Doster, the adviser to Mr. Moore, said the candidate’s campaign chairman, William Armistead, had talked to members of Alabama’s congressional delegation on Thursday after the story broke. “Everybody has been supportive,” Mr. Doster insisted.

But Senator Richard Shelby, the dean of the state’s congressional delegation, told reporters in Washington that if the charges are accurate “he wouldn’t belong in the Senate.”

There were signs that Mr. Moore’s base of support in Alabama might not be quick to crumble. Randy Brinson, president of the Christian Coalition of Alabama, said he expected voters mainly to give Mr. Moore the benefit of the doubt and trust his denials. Mr. Brinson, who ran unsuccessfully in the Republican Senate primary last summer, said he intended to continue backing Mr. Moore for the time being.

Mr. Brinson said he considered sexual misconduct a grave offense, but he questioned why the allegations against Mr. Moore would be “coming out now, four weeks before an election.”

“Until I see something different, I would support Roy Moore because of what he says he’s going to do and who he is as a person,” Mr. Brinson said, adding: “I didn’t know him when he was 30 years old.”

Mr. Ziegler acknowledged as “the only part that is concerning” the account given by one woman to the Post of Mr. Moore, then 32, undressing her as a 14-year-old, touching her over her underwear and guiding her hand to touch him over his underwear. As Mr. Ziegler described it: “He went a little too far and he stopped.”

Had the girl been 16 at the time and not 14, he added, “it would have been perfectly acceptable.”

For Democrats, the prospect of a wounded Mr. Moore was a gift.

“This is revolting and the Republican Party and everybody’s who endorsed Roy Moore needs to disavow his candidacy right now and ask him to withdraw,” said Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, who heads the Senate Democratic campaign arm.

Some national Democrats have helped their candidate, Mr. Jones, raise money, but few officials believed that the former prosecutor could topple Mr. Moore in a state that has not elected a Democrat to the Senate since 1992. Now they have a chance to shrink the Republican majority to a single seat and potentially snatch the majority next year.

Senate Democrats were already fielding strong candidates in Arizona and Nevada next year, but they had been scrambling to find a third Republican seat to challenge.

Even before the allegations about his personal conduct came to light, Mr. Moore’s judicial record on matters of sexual abuse was a point of contention in the race. During the Republican Senate primary, Mr. Strange ran television commercials attacking Mr. Moore for his vote in a case involving the sexual assault of a child.

Democrats alleged a deeper pattern of leniency in Mr. Moore’s judicial decisions involving sexual predation, pointing to several cases in which the former judge expressed skepticism of young women making allegations of sexual abuse.

In a 2015 case involving a man, David Pittman, who pleaded guilty to raping an underage girl, Mr. Moore wrote in a dissenting opinion that Mr. Pittman should have been allowed to introduce evidence showing his alleged victim’s parents “suspected her of sexual activity,” because it could be relevant to discerning her “alleged motive” in claiming she had been assaulted.

And in a 2014 case, involving a man convicted of abusing two underage girls, Mr. Moore wrote in a dissenting opinion that the man, Sherman Tate, should have had the chance in court to demonstrate that his accusers were romantically involved with each other. Mr. Moore wrote that connection “could be relevant to the victims’ alleged bias against Tate.”

“In cases of sexual misconduct, even against minors, Roy Moore blames the victims and sides with the attackers,” said Chris Hayden, a spokesman for Senate Majority PAC, the Democratic group that highlighted the cases. “Knowing that Roy Moore himself is an attacker it has never been clearer that he is not fit to serve in the U.S. Senate.”

Sheryl Stolberg and Nicholas Fandos in Washington and Campbell Robertson in Pittsburgh contributed reporting.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/...p-news&WT.nav=top-news&mtrref=www.nytimes.com
 

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It is too late to replace this Republican nominee, as they require a minimum of 76 days notice. Obviously, Moore is denying it and it is causing a great deal of concern among the more moderate Republicans as they have a majority of just two in the senate.
 

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It is too late to replace this Republican nominee, as they require a minimum of 76 days notice. Obviously, Moore is denying it and it is causing a great deal of concern among the more moderate Republicans as they have a majority of just two in the senate.
Relax, he was probably just trying to grab them by the pussy.
 

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It does not at all surprise me that these allegations have emerged not only after the primary, but also after the 76 day deadline.

Further as has already been stated, perhaps the allegations are true, yet I still find this sort of accusation = conviction at trial to be extremely troubling. What ever has happened to the famous "rights of Englishmen" to due process!
 

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It does not at all surprise me that these allegations have emerged not only after the primary, but also after the 76 day deadline.

Further as has already been stated, perhaps the allegations are true, yet I still find this sort of accusation = conviction at trial to be extremely troubling. What ever has happened to the famous "rights of Englishmen" to due process!
Since the Hollywood sex allegations there should not be such a thing as an "appropriate time" to disclose the allegations. It should never have happened in the first place.
 

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It is good to see so many republicans distance themselves from him.
 

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It is good to see so many republicans distance themselves from him.
Hardly. Local representatives in Alabama are saying that even if the allegations are proven true, they would still support him because the Democrat is worse.
 

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I would like to see all the accusations tested in court. This climate of convictions in the court of public opinion is simply bullshit. We're weaponizing accusations and preventing individuals from defending themselves.
 

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Smerconish today trying to stake the middle ground. Says the allegations need to be examined critically, but there are some points of corroboration with the girls' statements - i.e. things they noticed about Moore's residence check out and suggest that they were actuallly there.
 

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Hardly. Local representatives in Alabama are saying that even if the allegations are proven true, they would still support him because the Democrat is worse.
In the South, a Democrat is "someone the Black folks vote for" and a Republican is "someone the White folks vote for". And there is little in the way of crossover or compromise.

Moore could be a serial killer and a multiple count dog-raper, as long as he wore a suit and tie, went to church on Sunday and ran as GOP, every respectable White in 'Bama would duly turn out and vote for him.
 

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It does not at all surprise me that these allegations have emerged not only after the primary, but also after the 76 day deadline.

Further as has already been stated, perhaps the allegations are true, yet I still find this sort of accusation = conviction at trial to be extremely troubling. What ever has happened to the famous "rights of Englishmen" to due process!
If Moore was not already a controversial figure, there might be more latitude and wait and see. But Moore is hugely controversial and hugely polarizing. Kicked off the Bench twice??!! Brandishes a pistol at political meetings??!!! Jesus Talk that's crazy-ass psycho, even for the South??!!

Backed by Bannon and Mercer - doubtless as a Trojan Horse for their own political purposes, Moore is a poor choice as a responsible, respectable politician and that is precisely why the Alt Right is pushing him. He is supposed to disrupt and embarrass the GOP and make it manifest that the Alt right can humiliate the GOP establishment whenever it chooses.

To learn that he - allegedly - fondles teenaged girls fits with the sheer nuttiness of the man and provides another layer of "icky" to those who would prefer he and his backers didn't exist.
 

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It does not at all surprise me that these allegations have emerged not only after the primary, but also after the 76 day deadline.

Further as has already been stated, perhaps the allegations are true, yet I still find this sort of accusation = conviction at trial to be extremely troubling. What ever has happened to the famous "rights of Englishmen" to due process!
There can be no trial due to statute of limitations. There can be no due process.

4 accusers and 30 corroborators.

He has been thrown out as a judge twice. He refused to follow the law. Now this. This man is not suitable to be a candidate, let alone a senator. But if this is the type of candidate you and the GoP want, then all of you are worse than this guy.
 

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Mitt Romney slams Moore, urges him to quit race.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p-aside/ar-BBEOQal?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp


Mitt Romney, the former Republican presidential nominee and Massachusetts governor, weighed in on Friday on the sexual misconduct allegations facing Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore, urging him to drop out of the race.
"Innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. I believe Leigh Corfman. Her account is too serious to ignore," Romney wrote on Twitter. "Moore is unfit for office and should step aside."
Corfman alleged in a Washington Post article published Thursday that Moore had initiated a sexual encounter with her when she was 14 and he was in his 32.

Corfman was one of four women quoted in the Post's story who said Moore pursued relationships with them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s.
The allegations have rattled the Alabama race, prompting a slew of GOP senators, including Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, to publicly urge Moore to drop out of the election if the accusations are true.
The "if true" qualifier that many senators have used**in their statements denouncing Moore has prompted speculation over how the women's allegations can be further proven, and what Republicans should do about Moore's candidacy if**such proof**is impossible to obtain.
Notably, Sen. John McCain, of Arizona, was one of the few Republicans who issued a statement that did not**express doubt over**whether the accusations were true, and called upon Moore to immediately drop out.
"The allegations against Roy Moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying," he said in a statement. "He should immediately step aside and allow the people of Alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of."
GOP officials in Alabama, meanwhile, have remained supportive of Moore, with some questioning whether the women's accounts are true, and others saying they will continue to support Moore's candidacy even if they are.
Moore has denied the allegations and accused the Post and the Democratic Party of waging a "desperate political attack" against him.
 

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To add insult to injury as far as Moore is concerned, the Democrat nominee Danica Roem is the first transgender person to be elected as a state representative for Virginia. Moore is vocally opposed to transgenders and same sex marriage, as he is a "religious" person.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...34bdde-c0af-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html

By the way it has been revealed by Fox News, that Moore was not Trump's choice. He was you know who's choice? Yes Steve Bannon. No wonder this Alt right nutcase is now attacking the Washington Post, the victim of this child sexual assault and the Democratic Party. Guess who this victim voted for in the last election? Yes, for Trump. So that alt right bs including the Fox News that the Democrats planned it, is really disgusting, especially as they blame the victim as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/sean-hannity-roy-moore-allegations_us_5a050814e4b0e37d2f3697c2
 

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There’s a claim spreading on social media that a reporter was taped while reportedly offering a woman $1000 to accuse Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual improprieties.
The unconfirmed rumor, which seems to have originated from a former Secret Service agent, claims the woman taped the conversation she had with the reporter and sent copies to the Etowah Co. District Attorney and the FBI.

While the claim has yet to be verified, what we do know so far is that prior to accusing Moore of sexual misconduct, the Washington Post endorsed his opponent, Doug Jones, on Oct. 23.
Additionally, Moore’s accusers, all of whom allege the incidents occurred decades ago, don’t seem to have known each other very well previously, yet all the sudden they appeared in the public spotlight at the same time to make their accusations only weeks before an election with national implications.
This is noteworthy because, in contrast, the allegations made against Harvey Weinstein began with ONE accuser whose story encouraged other alleged victims to start speaking out – and many of the accusations were far more recent. Plus the fact that Weinstein was caught on tape, and some of his accusers weren’t victims but rather just witnesses of his questionable behavior.
Additionally, Moore spent years on the Supreme Court of Alabama, so why didn’t the accusations come sooner if they’re true? That would have been a disservice to the people of Alabama if valid accusations were kept in the dark.

https://www.infowars.com/claim-reporter-on-tape-offering-woman-1000-to-accuse-moore/
 

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Roy Moore’s Accuser Worked for Democratic Leaders and Is Actively Campaigning for Moore’s Opponent

One of senatorial candidate Roy Moore’s accusers is apparently a fervent Democrat who has worked for the DNC as a sign language interpreter for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, a revelation which the Washington Post never included in its original report.
The accuser, Debbie Gibson, had also publically supported Moore’s opponent Doug Jones before the accusations came to light

https://www.infowars.com/photos-moore-accuser-a-democrat-activist/

https://activistmommy.com/breaking-...leaders-actively-campaigning-moores-opponent/
 

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The son of Republican U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore has been arrested in Alabama on a misdemeanor charge linked to allegations of illegal hunting.

Etowah County Sheriff's spokeswoman Natalie Barton tells news outlets 27-year-old Caleb Moore surrendered Monday on a charge of third-degree criminal trespass. He was accused of hunting without permission and hunting over bait last year.

Barton says Caleb Moore was released on $1,000 bond.

Moore's campaign issued a statement calling the arrest a "cheap political trick."

Caleb Moore was arrested on drug charges in 2015, but those were dropped after he entered a pre-trial diversion program.

Monday's arrest marks the ninth time the 27-year-old has been in jail, AL.com reported.

Roy Moore is facing Democrat Doug Jones in the special election for the U.S. Senate on Dec. 12. Moore is a former Alabama chief justice who's been removed from office twice.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ore-son-arrested-ninth-time-article-1.3555021

Basically sounds like the kid knows his dad pulls all the strings in the state and doesn't give a fuck!
 

mandrill

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There’s a claim spreading on social media that a reporter was taped while reportedly offering a woman $1000 to accuse Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual improprieties.
The unconfirmed rumor, which seems to have originated from a former Secret Service agent, claims the woman taped the conversation she had with the reporter and sent copies to the Etowah Co. District Attorney and the FBI.

While the claim has yet to be verified, what we do know so far is that prior to accusing Moore of sexual misconduct, the Washington Post endorsed his opponent, Doug Jones, on Oct. 23.
Additionally, Moore’s accusers, all of whom allege the incidents occurred decades ago, don’t seem to have known each other very well previously, yet all the sudden they appeared in the public spotlight at the same time to make their accusations only weeks before an election with national implications.
This is noteworthy because, in contrast, the allegations made against Harvey Weinstein began with ONE accuser whose story encouraged other alleged victims to start speaking out – and many of the accusations were far more recent. Plus the fact that Weinstein was caught on tape, and some of his accusers weren’t victims but rather just witnesses of his questionable behavior.
Additionally, Moore spent years on the Supreme Court of Alabama, so why didn’t the accusations come sooner if they’re true? That would have been a disservice to the people of Alabama if valid accusations were kept in the dark.

https://www.infowars.com/claim-reporter-on-tape-offering-woman-1000-to-accuse-moore/
C-M, you're quoting Alex Jones "Info Wars" for your posts. This is a new low of foolishness, even for you.
 
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