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ZZDRAGON

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Dec 2, 2012
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Well don't know if it is just me or is it getting increasingly difficult to find a good sp? I have been a hobbiest for a long time and just can't get over all the fake ads or providers that don't provide good service. It is so disappointing that I may have to consider a break from my hobby which is so so sad.
 
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bbbj_greek_cim

it’s pathetic. im considering offering reputable mtl girls a 1oo$ downpament to meet me halfway in Vaudreuil Dorion (90 min drive for me, 45 for her). Hotel will be on me but they’re cheap in that town.
 

ZZDRAGON

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Dec 2, 2012
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sad time indeed.. I am into mainly MAs now. Maybe time for you to look at this option or other alternatives as discussed.

zzdragon: I see that you joined terb about 5 yrs ago. Not to start the whole thing about people not contributing but perhaps if more people are willing to share then just maybe we are not in the sh*t hole right now. Just saying.
I hear you and agree I am more the quiet type but do post when I have something worth while to say and when time permits. But will try to contribute more.
 

Mable

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This problem has been a fixture in the Ottawa scene since I have been hobbying. Nothing new. What is new is that, as my traveling has been greatly reduced, my wallet has been getting fatter and fatter.
 

moham

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My experience has been about 2 out of 10 times, I got initial responses, then no further response afterwards (no appointment given and just disappeared), 3 out of 10 times, went there for appointments, as directed by their texts, waited, either no response or told to wait up to half an hour while at the parking lot; that worked out to about half of the time, things do not go smoothly. I would clarify that 1 of these was through agency and the rest were independents.
 

faveone

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Oh my goodness! What's going on in Ottawa? Is the sky falling and all the great service providers have left?

This has to be the last thread on the subject for 2017!
If you can't find at least 3 good leads on the first page of this forum then you need to find a new hobby!:doh:
 

Danny1012

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I think one of the biggest and saddest changes has been with the Asian SP scene here since the big police round up of 2014. Prior to that, this place was Camelot for decent and affordable Asian SPs..... the situation now is pretty brutal.
 
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OnTheWayOut

I heard Sara's rates are getting up there but still likely worth it (260/hr?). Her availability is very limited though and I have had no luck connecting in a year or so, often not even a response to texts. Heard she has a new handler so perhaps communication has improved?

Best Asian SPs these days are the visiting indys like Violet. Sophie Lee and a few others whose name escapes me at the moment.

Agreed that the days of AP, Moonbay and others who used real pics and had mostly great SP are greatly missed. Going back even further TOG were the ones who started the amazing run of quality Asians, all the other agencies were spinoffs of them (managers or some personal connection). Funny how when TOG changed name to Candyland they went in the crapper .... seems the former TOG employees had better connections to get the best girls. Then it all went to hell. A shame as it did not appear any of these agency girls were trafficked, which was what the big crackdown was supposed to be all about.

With winter coming we may not be seeing as much of Violet so time to broaden horizons and see SPs like Chrissie who I met last winter. While the Asian scene is down there are still lots of great SP in Ottawa, no one should have any issues finding fun if they do a little research.
 
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OnTheWayOut

The SPs have a similar opinion of Ottawa, I'm hearing this constantly in private and on twitter from reputable SPs. This is a cyclical problem. Tons of guys with no references, booking anonymously with text apps, doing fake bookings, no shows, last minute cancellations, wanting half hour appts only. A lot of good SPs don't want to come anymore, and those that do have higher rates and tougher screening to weed out the nonsense.
Sadly I have been hearing visiting SPs saying these things for many years, it's not really a new thing. I could never understand why guys do these things. Yeah, everyone has the occasional unexpected last minute issue but the problems with no-shows and such go way past that. That's why I never supported the fake bookings some guys called for to deal with BP fake pics or B&S. Now and then mistakes would be made and good SPs unfairly treated. But yes you make good points and it has caused many good SPs to stop visiting, a real shame. There is no good reason this happens, yet it does.

Oddly there are some SP that visit that say they have not had issues with no-shows or fake bookings. If we could figure why these SPs seem to be treated better perhaps we could somehow prevent it from happening. But in my experience I could see no apparent reason some had no problems and others do. That is just as perplexing as why some jerks feel the need to do it to good SPs.
 

withpassion

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Apr 6, 2012
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Sadly I have been hearing visiting SPs saying these things for many years, it's not really a new thing. I could never understand why guys do these things.

Oddly there are some SP that visit that say they have not had issues with no-shows or fake bookings.
It is always difficult to understand those of immature thinking, however, there are always two sides to every story.

We read and experience many issues with SP's as to delays, not providing services promised, ghosting, etc, while there are punters that get ticked off and bad mouth for simple matters just because they are having a bad day.

I would think that some touring SP's deserve being provided a bad review (I too do not agree with fake booking due to the risk of misfiring) while others do not.

The problem here is how to discern the two? As you have indicated Slurp, some SP's have no such issues. It does breed the question of which side is correct or are each 50% on the mark, no?
 

dynomyte

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It really is not worth participating any more. Too risky to use backpage unless you are looking for someone to repeat with as there are so many fakers that it is no longer worth the risk. However, for the most part, it is not the ladies it is the guys. This board has become useless because a few are ruining it for the many. This use to be an open forum that people would visit to get information and some would share when they felt it was relevant. However, guys start bashing the posts of newbies so newbies quit posting (what a surprise)! Then these same bashers hate on lurkers for not posting, but why would you want to when you are going to get bashed?? And to top it all off, they start to create private forums for themselves and those who meet their criteria so only they can benefit from the posts. Why would anyone want to post when they are excluded from the same information from others that they want to provide and are bashed when they do step up? There are likely real gems here in Ottawa, but no one can find them because there is so little shared here now and the scammers are flooding BP. Just my two cents, but likely not worth much considering my low post count!
 

2nd Ranger

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actually your points are valid....i personally do not agree with the 'private' reviews but to each his own. I don't really care if lurkers enjoyed some SP's i may have reviewed, good for them and i never felt they took 'my time ' from my favorite SP's. Besides they are not lovers, some are nice, even some sort of distant friendship may develop but let's no kid ourselves, it is work for them and we supply a living, end 'o story. All these 18-24 year old girls are not interested in older men unless you bleed cash on them. The lurkers are a very small sample of john's they see and i don't think it makes any kind of difference whatsoever to weed them out of reviews on this site. In fact, if it does make a difference and a good SP doesn't have enough business here, they may not come back. Some have even voiced it that Ottawa is 'boring.

Some people take this stuff way too seriously. I encourage you to keep posting.
 

2nd Ranger

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I have always had problems with last min cancellations on tours, as well as a lot of cancellations giving notice. I don’t get no shows because I trust my gut a lot and don’t book anyone with Text apps. But I think the problems lies between reputable guys not wanting to book 1h or longer appts and giving screening info and then trying out lower price pointed providers and having a tough time and complaining. I’ve never no showed or last minute canceled on anyone, but I attract a lot of newbies who don’t have a lot of experience so they don’t have references and don’t want to give screening info. A few do provide screening info but cancel due to nerves or work. I don’t attract a lot of hobbyists because I don’t offer half hours or PSE. I do have colleagues that do offer pse but no half hours and they have a lot of sketchy text App inquiries and cancellations too. Touring is just incredibly expensive and I find that 50-70% of prebooked appts cancel if it’s someone new I don’t know regardless of having stellar references or giving personal screening. It’s always “something came up at work I can’t make it”. My last tour 100% of prebooked appts from guys I haven’t seen canceled. And 100% of those I already knew showed up and didn’t cancel. So that does say that once you have established trust and a relationship with someone they are way more reliable. I don’t get why guys think it’s no big deal to bail just because they haven’t met us yet. They don’t like that treatment themselves I’m sure. So that’s my two cents.
Some guys are just time wasters, i surmise it's in their blood or they just chicken out, dunno never understood it myself. 90% if cancellation is bullshit reasons on both sides of the alley. I have never cancelled except once due to severe case of the flu and gave a 48 hr notice. Otherwise i keep my end of the bargain. I show up clean, on time or early, with a good bottle if appreciated, never barter and just try to have a nice hour with a nice lady and hope she will enjoy it as much as i would. I'd love to see you if only for the way you present yourself on here as someone who really puts her heart into it
 

FreeG

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actually your points are valid....i personally do not agree with the 'private' reviews but to each his own. I don't really care if lurkers enjoyed some SP's i may have reviewed, good for them and i never felt they took 'my time ' from my favorite SP's. Besides they are not lovers, some are nice, even some sort of distant friendship may develop but let's no kid ourselves, it is work for them and we supply a living, end 'o story. All these 18-24 year old girls are not interested in older men unless you bleed cash on them. The lurkers are a very small sample of john's they see and i don't think it makes any kind of difference whatsoever to weed them out of reviews on this site. In fact, if it does make a difference and a good SP doesn't have enough business here, they may not come back. Some have even voiced it that Ottawa is 'boring.

Some people take this stuff way too seriously. I encourage you to keep posting.
I agree - it may be best to think of 'private reviews' and posters as if they were never on TERB in the first place. Its not like they're deleting existing reviews; I get the impression they've just chosen to share amongst themselves and TERB is a forum to meet and discuss other matters. I personally have no problem sharing info - I've benefited from others' experiences, good & bad, so I try to share the same in return.

I get the impression that some may feel that if there's lots of good press on someone, that SP will book up. But I don't believe that's a factor: its practically impossible to prove, and honestly, its best for Ottawa's SP scene long-term - if the word gets out to other cities that Ottawa is the place to be for good business, more SPs will likely visit here. (Looking for Charlotte or other SPs to feedback here!)

I've chatted with other folks who have hobbied long before finding PERB, TERB, MERB, etc, and I'm guessing there will always be plenty of clients out there who will do what they do regardless of what's said & done on this forum. So anyone who believes that this forum is primarily responsible for chasing SPs away, as a whole, may be a bit of a reach... On the other hand, just as networking is vital for any career, so too does bad press on a city quickly spread. Any SP who unnecessarily takes abuse on this forum is going to tell her friends "Stay away from Ottawa" which hurts us all.
 

cck

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Whenever I check the users logged in section at the bottom of the page, there's usually over 3 times more guests than members (eg. 27 members & 92 guests). There will always be way more lurkers than contributors.
 

Respect1

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Whenever I check the users logged in section at the bottom of the page, there's usually over 3 times more guests than members (eg. 27 members & 92 guests). There will always be way more lurkers than contributors.
probably a lot would join ,,if not for fear of the digital trail .
 

FreeG

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Oct 18, 2015
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One counter to this is to hide any reviews to guests. This is done on MERB (for Montreal) and on PERB (for Vancouver). So you can see reviews in the smaller areas, but the biggest places require you to register.

Ads can be viewed by guests. I think this is fare to the advertiser - they pay so they deserve max visibility.
 

HUGS_KISSES

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Have they ever not been out lol

Poll to close the reviews to only members
Poll to have uncivilized Haters been taken care of
Poll to have something done with no post-members
My vote:
No (half of strip bar forum readers recently created are the guests. Best to promote deserving dancers to have those guests able to read).
Yes (there are a few that I wish there weren't)
Yes and No (some who only read on the escort/MA parts may be afraid to post for legal reasons, just guessing but yes they can't petmanently benefit and not contribute back).
 
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