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CBC: Forget the 'slippery slope' — Israel already is an apartheid state

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Now that CBC has posted that Israel is apartheid, its time to stop pretending.
Now its time to take a stand and say whether you support apartheid or human rights.


The time has come to call the duck a duck. It's time to agree with a long list of Israeli political leaders, academics and public figures on both the political left and right, including three former prime ministers, a winner of the Israel prize, two former heads of the Israeli internal security service Shin Bet, and one of the country's principal newspapers, all of whom have warned that the Jewish state is becoming, or already is, an apartheid state.

I would choose the latter characterization.

It's interesting that within the Israeli discourse, the assertion seems to have become routine, while it remains radioactive in the West, where energetic pro-Israel activists scrutinize the media, the academy and the polity, ready to declare anti-Semitism or incitement at any use of the word.

Look at the outrage and venom poured upon former President Jimmy Carter, under whose brokerage the peace accord between Israel and Egypt was signed, when he titled a 2006 book Palestine: Peace not Apartheid.

Suddenly, Carter was transformed from a Nobel Peace Prize laureate and statesman to a dotty old man under the sway of terrorists, at least in the eyes of Israel's supporters, including a significant fraction of his own cohort, Evangelical American Christians.

A duck is a duck

But reality is reality, and a duck is a duck. As the late Yossi Sarid, longtime leader of Israel's Meretz party and former education minister once put it: "What acts like apartheid, is run like apartheid and harasses like apartheid, is not a duck — it is apartheid."

This past June, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak re-stated a position he's held for years: "If we keep controlling the whole area from the Mediterranean to the river Jordan where some 13 million people are living — eight million Israelis, five million Palestinians ... if only one entity reigned over this whole area, named Israel, it would become inevitably — that's the key word, inevitably – either non-Jewish or non-democratic." The country is, he repeated, "on a slippery slope" that ends in apartheid.


The dividing line between prominent Israelis who use the term in the here and now, rather than as a warning of what's coming, seems to be the continued existence of the "peace process," with its promise of a Palestinian state, and self-governance.

And when I was posted in Jerusalem for CBC News, back in the late '90s, that actually did seem like a possibility, if an unlikely one.

Since then, the peace process — always half-hearted — has utterly collapsed. Expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank continued, and since the election of Donald Trump, colonization has surged with an invigorated enthusiasm.

Their existence is in fact currently being celebrated in a series of appearances by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

"We are here to stay, forever," he declared two months ago in the settlement of Barkan, commemorating the 50th anniversary of Israel's occupation of the West Bank.

"There will be no more uprooting of settlements in the land of Israel." (The "Land of Israel," as opposed to the State of Israel, is a term used by the Israeli right to describe all the territory between the Jordan and the Mediterranean, and sometimes even further).

Ayelet Shaked and Naftali Bennett, respectively Israel's justice and education ministers, have said the Palestinians must understand they will never have a state. Defence Minister Avigdor Liberman, a settler, has said there is "no hope" of a mutually agreed upon Palestinian state, but has warned Naftali Bennett against promoting outright annexation:

"What Bennett and his Jewish Home party are proposing is a classical bi-national state," Liberman said two years ago. "They need to decide if they're talking about a bi-national state between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean … or whether they're talking about an apartheid state."

Liberman's logic seems to be that as long as the Palestinians are simply occupied and governed by a different set of laws, with far fewer rights than Israelis (as opposed to denying them a state but giving them a vote in some expanded version of Israel, which the Israeli right considers national suicide), then it is not really apartheid.

But annexation at this point would merely amount to staging a home already sold.

In the past decade, Ze'ev Jabotinsky's "Iron Wall" doctrine has given rise to an actual wall, sometimes an iron one, running roughly along the 1967 borders of the West Bank and Gaza. The main roads from Jerusalem north to Ramallah and Nablus and south to Bethlehem and Hebron are now blocked by gigantic, fortified military barriers. The roughly three quarters of a million Jewish settlers in the West Bank and East Jerusalem have complete freedom of movement and their own set of roads, effectively forbidden to the disenfranchised Palestinian underclass.

Settlers suspected of crimes are entitled to full rights in Israeli courts; Palestinians endure military tribunals, indefinite imprisonment without charge ("administrative detention") and collective punishment. Settlers are entitled to carry arms and use them in self-defence; Palestinians are not. Settlers have property rights. Palestinians have property claims. Et cetera.

Netanyahu frames it all as a matter of national survival, warning that any land conceded will immediately be occupied by fundamentalist terrorists determined to destroy the State of Israel, with its nuclear weapons, tanks, fighter jets, layered missile defence systems and 600,000-plus active and reserve troops.

His definition of terrorism is a nuanced one; at an event a few years ago commemorating the 60th anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel by Irgun fighters, considered a terrorist act by the British government to this day, Netanyahu characterized the perpetrators as legitimate military fighters, and warned the outraged British government to watch its language.

Netanyahu frames expansion of settlements all as a matter of national survival. (Sebastian ScheinerAssociated Press)

But then, an elastic worldview is apparently necessary to maintain the status quo; when Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah party signed a formal reconciliation recently with the "terrorists" of Hamas, who rule Gaza, both Israel and the United States objected, saying such a union endangers, yes, the peace process. The fact that today's terrorists tend to become tomorrow's statesmen (the Irgun bombers later joined the nascent government of Israel, and former Irgun chief Menachem Begin became prime minister) is apparently irrelevant in this context.

At any rate, Ehud Barak's slippery slope is now in the rearview mirror. Yossi Sarid's duck has arrived. Let's accept that, drop the pretense, and move on.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/israel-slippery-slope-1.4368018
 

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When you look at the URL and see "opinion" you should realize this is an OpEd, not a factual article.
 

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When you look at the URL and see "opinion" you should realize this is an OpEd, not a factual article.
When the CBC posts even an opinion piece that says Israel is apartheid, then you know the discussion is now on and its mainstream.
Blanket denials won't work anymore.
CBC opinion pieces have to be well researched to get published.

Why do you support apartheid?
 

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some groups in israel are exempted from concription
That is racist but the victims are the Jews forced to serve. I would see it as wrong if Arabs were banned from the military but that's not the case; they are the few with choice.
 

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Op/Ed. Thanks for admitting it.

Why do you support Palestinian terrorism?
Fortunately we have the UN study to back up the Op/Ed.
Israel is apartheid.

Its now time to discuss this publicly and openly, no more 'its hate speech'.
 

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Fortunately we have the UN study to back up the Op/Ed.
Israel is apartheid.

Its now time to discuss this publicly and openly, no more 'its hate speech'.
the UN has no credibility when they appoint countries like Saudi Arabia to human rights committes
 

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the UN has no credibility when they appoint countries like Saudi Arabia to human rights committes
LOL UN has zero credibility. The UN is run by Muslim countries.

Pakistan Sentences Ahamdis to Death -But Wins UN Human Rights Seat

Pakistan is known for persecuting its minority Ahamdis and has now condemned 3 to death. UN decided to award Pakistan, Qatar, Congo human rights seats what a tragedy....they're joining other human right winners like the Saudis, Cuba and Venezula.


When posters abusing and calling for the social boycott of Ahmadi Muslims were plastered in a Pakistani village, four Ahmadis decided to remove them from their Mosque. In retrospect, it was a bad decision. Just five days ago, a Pakistani court handed three of them the death sentence for “blasphemy” (for tearing down “religious posters”). The fourth one? just a few days after his arrest, he was gunned down while in police custody.

This kind of blasphemy sentence is not an anomaly. It is a small glimpse into the systematic and state-sponsored persecution of Ahmadi Muslims across the country. And just four days after this death sentence, Pakistan secured a seat in the United Nations Human Rights Council. To many in Pakistan, it was a cause of jubilation. The Foreign Minister praised God, calling it a “Great Victory.” Ms. Maleeha Lodhi, Pakistan’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations, claimed Pakistan’s record of “promoting and protecting human rights” had been vindicated with the victory.

With the image of Pakistan in the world today, I felt a certain elated too. After all, Pakistan is my motherland. However, I know this election wasn’t remotely based on our human rights record. It pains me to admit that Pakistan has a depressing human rights record and is behind one of the worst religious apartheids of this age - the #AhmadiApartheid. Here is a snapshot:

Denied Right to Self Identity: Pakistan continues to deny Ahmadi Muslims the basic right to self-identity. In 1974, then Prime Minister Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, in an attempt to appease right-wing religious extremists, amended the country’s constitution to declare the Ahmadi Muslims a non-Muslim minority. The Second Amendment was an unprecedented move in recent world history. With its passage, Pakistan became the first State — and remains the only one — to judge the faith (or lack thereof) of its citizens. Pakistan’s passport application requires all Pakistanis to condemn the Ahmadi Muslims to be eligible for a ‘Muslim’ passport.

Denied all Religious Freedom: The discriminatory Second Amendment resulted in further restrictions on religious freedom with President Zia’s promulgation of the anti-Ahmadi laws shortly thereafter in 1984. Known as the Ordinance XX, these laws criminalize the daily lives of Ahmadi Muslims and impose a three year jail term for Ahmadis guilty of ‘posing as Muslims’. Thousands of Ahmadis have been jailed under these opprobrious laws for ‘crimes’ such as praying, saying the salam (Muslim greeting), saying the Kalima (Islamic creed), reading the Quran etc. These laws are a violation of the UN Human Rights Charter and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), of which Pakistan is a signatory.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b09e31db97599d
 

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Fortunately we have the UN study to back up the Op/Ed.
Israel is apartheid.

Its now time to discuss this publicly and openly, no more 'its hate speech'.
Why? Because of one op/ed?

Whatever. Israel makes the desert bloom. I'm with them
 

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Why? Because of one op/ed?

Whatever. Israel makes the desert bloom. I'm with them
The Palestine issue is the festering wound of the middle east.
Siding yourself with apartheid is prepping yourself for the big hurt, the way that backers of South Africa felt when sanctions worked on them.

Here's a good example, there aren't as many people who are outright Israeli spokesmen these days, but they do have one new one.
Here's what they said:
“The most important and perhaps most revolutionary ethno-state, and it’s one that I turn to for guidance, even though I might not always agree with its foreign policy decisions … is the Jewish state of Israel,”
https://electronicintifada.net/blog...richard-spencer-says-he-turns-israel-guidance

Yup, Richard Spencer.
 

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The Palestine issue is the festering wound of the middle east.
Siding yourself with apartheid is prepping yourself for the big hurt, the way that backers of South Africa felt when sanctions worked on them.

Here's a good example, there aren't as many people who are outright Israeli spokesmen these days, but they do have one new one.
Here's what they said:

https://electronicintifada.net/blog...richard-spencer-says-he-turns-israel-guidance

Yup, Richard Spencer.
The Palis are children incapable of accepting they were duped by losing forces against Israel and continue to be pawns now. Over the last 70 years they have created and contributed basically nothing to the world.

All they have to do is lay down arms and acknowledge Israel,s right to exist and watch as the desert continues to bloom.
 

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Further it was not an on the air statement made with the full backing of the Corporation.
The story is still there on CBC.

The rest of the world is keying in on Israeli apartheid.
Israel knows it, just read the first part of the column.

The time has come to call the duck a duck. It's time to agree with a long list of Israeli political leaders, academics and public figures on both the political left and right, including three former prime ministers, a winner of the Israel prize, two former heads of the Israeli internal security service Shin Bet, and one of the country's principal newspapers, all of whom have warned that the Jewish state is becoming, or already is, an apartheid state.

I would choose the latter characterization.
The stories that show how apartheid is implemented continue on a daily basis.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...sted-israel-suffer-abuse-171024215105404.html
 

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Fortunately we have the UN study to back up the Op/Ed.
Israel is apartheid.

Its now time to discuss this publicly and openly, no more 'its hate speech'.
You do not have any UN study, you just keep lying and calling anything sent to the UN by outsiders a UN study.

Show me a resolution by the UN endorsing the study.

If you can't then it's not the views of the member nations.

You constantly lie in order to incite hate against Israel.
 
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