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Is escort industry officially dead in Ottawa?

that.dude

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Last ad in the ads section was posted 4 days ago. Mirage, the only agency is based in Toronto and nearly stopped functioning in Ottawa. They still have 2-3 touring SPs, but that's nothing comparing to last year. There's tons of MAs, but I just don't get it. Why bother paying almost the same rate just for a massage and a HJ? Backpage is not a solution either. Montreal is to the rescue, but I can't drive there regularly. Any idea what's going on?
 

2nd Ranger

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there are some good SP's. Not tons, but plenty to go around i feel. Of course, if you like to hit a new one at every turn, you may run out of options. For my part, i got my favorite that i see as often as possible and from time to time, i'll wage a bet on a new one i have not tried. Maybe GoE will start coming, they did put up a poll with a result that showed obvious interest.
 

that.dude

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For my part, i got my favorite that i see as often as possible and from time to time, i'll wage a bet on a new one i have not tried.
Lucky you. Is she reviewed on here? Mind sharing the name? I know there was a post with lots of links fairly recently. I went through most of them and they were either not in my age category (I'm looking before 30) or not my cup of tea. I guess most of SPs in Ottawa advertise on BP, which I'm trying to avoid.
 

skypilot68

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I use to like PK when Jason was managing it. lot of good local talent. than mirage had lots of girls who would tour Ottawa, but even Mirage is all dry up. there really is no sure thing agency anymore. some long time sp who advertise on the red board. no really new talent. that just my observation after coming back into the hobby after couple of year break.
 

that.dude

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Unfortunately Ottawa has been getting a bad rap the past couple of years, not many indies want to tour anymore unless they have regulars. I didn't find it too great last month I only had sketchy guys with text apps and no other info contacting me which seemed too risky.
Thanks for chiming in. Yeah, I heard that too. That's quite surprising honestly, as I find people in Ottawa nicer than in Toronto (in general), where the industry is thriving.
 

skypilot68

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Charlotte, just read your post. wonder why Ottawa would be getting a bad rap. A government town. steady pay check. don't blame the phoenix system. I think there is enough guys out here to support some good touring girls. just surprise me by your comments but make sense why only BP girls who are here with "managers"
 

skypilot68

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that dude, I don't get it either. I was just in Toronto for Business and Mirage and their sister agency gives multiple visit discount like a coffee card. There are some many agencies in Toronto, there are hotels by the airport with entire floor of escorts. it is like a kid at a candy store. I am surprise by the Ottawa comment.
 

asuran

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From what I've heard the past few years.

Ottawa clients asked a whole bunch of questions when trying to book. They constantly asks for the menu while usually independents does not even advertise or talk about them anywhere. (Etiquette, guys!!)
For some reasons, majority (close to all) Ottawa clients are short HH appointments.
Ottawa clients likes to bargain. I do see it on here too sometime when certain members complain about rates higher than $200/h.

Ottawa is just not that welcoming for SPs.
There's no incentives for any of them to visit/tour.

I've understood this that is why I now do monthly visits to Toronto for SPs while in Ottawa I've been seeing MAs.
 

that.dude

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Well summed up, asuran. I started hobbying in Toronto, and what you described to me look like red flags for sure. Maybe mentality in Ottawa is a bit different for whatever reason.
 

John Gilbunni

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Unfortunately Ottawa has been getting a bad rap the past couple of years, not many indies want to tour anymore unless they have regulars. I didn't find it too great last month I only had sketchy guys with text apps and no other info contacting me which seemed too risky.
Thanks for your feedback, C. Definitely a breakdown in trust. I've hung out socially with a few ex sps of late. It ain't like it used to be.
 

imwildru

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To me, It's indies charging as much or even more than an agency, I still don't get why they do that, the upsell, the fakes, the double booking, the wait in the car till your number comes up, or they to come to you and the session starts from the moment the driver drops her off and I live in a highrise building and the list goes on and on. I can't forget that thread where the SP had to change the condom because the client touched it, the funny part to me was that he agreed with her practice, in any case I slowed down my activities for now and playing the wait and see game. agree or not that's my take on the SP scenario in Ottawa.
 

itd131

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From what I have seen, the "standard" (if there is such a thing) rates in Ottawa are pretty much the same as in Montreal. When an out of town lady comes here and her rate is 25%-100% higher, although I'm sure it would be nice to meet her, I rarely do. A few times I have taken a chance on a TO based agency lady or indie. The experiences have been OK, but a little underwhelming, all things considered. This hasn't made me want to try it again anytime soon.

Even not considering rates, I love my regulars too much. In Ottawa, taking a chance on a new lady is a risk. Most of the SPs you will meet through BP, the review boards or "agencies" will be somewhere between "just ok" to "freakin terrible." Why take a chance on a new person, knowing the session will likely not be very good, when I can just see a regular for a guaranteed great time? Ad to that possibly paying more for a bad time - it's just not worth the risk. At least not for me. Plus if I have extra cash to burn, I'd rather tip a regular or buy her a gift or something - not take a chance on what will likely end up being a bad time.
 

Joe Blower

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I used to visit SP's, but over the past 2 years I've stuck with MA's. not sure completely why, but some of it is because my fav agency (yourmgf) left and i never recovered. BP has a ton of ads but I think most are BS and i don't have the time to search, choose, reverse image search, read reviews on terb and other boards, then book, etc... I've seen 1 SP in the past 2 years and I left disappointed..

the MA's here are a plenty and beautiful. I've a couple of regulars now and 45 min appts work great. locations make it easier to visit too.

I would probably see a couple of SP's that either live here or tour, except i use a text app and have been rudely shot down in the past. I will not use my reg #, so i choose not to see these women.
 

2nd Ranger

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all relative. The Toronto market is completely different. That's where the cash is, so an SP can probably charge 300, 400 or even more $ for the HR and she'll do okay if she provides excellent services. Was there last summer and i saw so many BMW, Mercedez, Lamborghini, Ferrari's i thought i might have been at the rich boy's friendly neighborhood exotic car dealership. But in the Ottawa market which is smaller and somewhat less fortunate, charging the going rates of TO will only get you into a very small niche of clients that can afford these rates. When the average Joe makes 50 or 60k, pays half of it in taxes, benefits, OAP, employment insurance, then uses the rest for rent or mortgage, food, kids (if any), car, clothes etc...how much is really left to partake in this hobby??? It's all simple economics, you can't charge the same going rates here as in TO where the market is not only much bigger, but also more well off salary wise and expect the same kind of business you'd get in TO.

Now i'm not cheap, i have always showed up with a good bottle ( i ask beforehand if interested and about 75% appreciate having some) and a small gift which increases my expense for see an SP so for me the going rate is anything between 200 and 240, maybe 250 if i really really want to see someone in particular. It's just what i can afford without breaking the bank and my salary is above the medium income in Ottawa by about 20%. And truth be told i get an excellent HR paying these rates (220 for my regular provider). I mostly stick with her because she is sweet, not a clock watcher, provides me with everything i require and sometimes more so as itd131 says, why bother risking getting fleeced by someone i do not know. Like everyone else here i think, i've been burned so i am really careful of who i will see.

Asuran: maybe it's because they've been burned so many times by unreliable providers or BP posters. It also goes back to what they can afford, if you only have so much dineros to spend, you want to know you get what you want and so the questions are asked. Is it so much out of whack with other places???? If your idea of a good hr includes certain services, wouldn't you want to know if it's provided beforehand?

As for you Charlotte, i understand you are a well reviewed provider and whatever your fee is your business and i respect that. I'll just add that i'm not surprised that you mention you didn't get a whole lot of good clients on your last visit given what i stated above.

No disrespect to anyone, i'm just stating what my view is of the Ottawa market.
 

YOW

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In my past experiences having lived, worked, and hobbied in YYZ/YOW/YUL the past 15 years, the mainstream (White or Ethnic) SP offerings have been much better in YYZ & YUL than YOW I found. The main good ones that visited YOW were usually from the other cities. As far as Asian (Korean or Chinese) is concerned, besides the few hidden gems (ATF's) that I frequented, the best variety was definitely in YYZ. The rates are about $20-$40 more/h than in YOW, but the consistency was by far higher in YYZ.

Ottawa may have one of the highest medium incomes in Canada, but there definitely is a reputation of the populous not willing/ wanting to pay HIGHER premiums for outstanding services. I have heard this from a couple of VIP's in YYZ that chose not to tour in YOW due to this reputation. The words used were, "nickle and dime you .............." . I see that now that I am living here the past 5 years.

Fortunately I work in YYZ/YUL on a monthly basis, but when I am in the mood to hobby like last night, I have virtually no choices to my liking. The last visitor to YOW that I have seen in YYZ was @teenamirage over the past 6 months. Though I can see her anytime I am in YYZ, so all's not lost. That and YUL is only a 2h drive for some amazing french food. ;)

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2nd Ranger

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heard that too. Bargaining for a better rate is disrespectful to the provider. You're not going to the local bazaar for christ sake. If her rates don't suit you, then move on. They are entitled to charge whatever they want.
 

ixlr82

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I find that many of the touring ladies are like $350 and no hh. Its just way to expensive for the average hobbiest
 
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