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Phil C. McNasty

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So was last year just a bad blip/off year for Darvish or is it the start of a decline. He was 10-12 and was atrocious in the WS
IMO just an off-year. He's only 31 so he should have at least 3 or 4 decent years left in him.

6-year deal was too long though, but the Cubs have the money, so what do they care??!!
 

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IMO just an off-year. He's only 31 so he should have at least 3 or 4 decent years left in him.

6-year deal was too long though, but the Cubs have the money, so what do they care??!!
When you sign a star for great sums of money, you immediately get a return. Ticket sales go up as well as TV $ . So the actual cost of the star may be zero, indeed, the owners may see a profit from the signing. Worse case scenario the star flops. In that case owners only recoup some of the contract and eat the rest. The buying of the free agent is a well thought out business decision, not a crazy spending of money.

The star is overpaid because pro sports is a monopoly and the star player is taking advantage of the monopolistic situation fortune has placed him in.

When Babe Ruth demanded a fat contract he got it. When asked why he should be paid more than the President he replied he had a better year. That was before fat TV contracts and players union..
 

Phil C. McNasty

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First Blue Jay spring training game is in 11 days vs. Phillies :clap2:
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Ex-Jay Esteban Loaiza is in big, big trouble:

https://nypost.com/2018/02/12/ex-yankees-pitcher-busted-as-alleged-drug-kingpin/

Ex-Yankees pitcher busted as alleged drug kingpin


Journeyman starting pitcher Esteban Loaiza was arrested Friday in San Diego with over 20 kilograms of cocaine and/or heroin, according to police documents. That translates to over 44 pounds of heavy drugs.

Loaiza is being held in South Bay Detention Facility on $200,000 bail. His next court hearing is Wednesday. According to online records, Loaiza was arrested at 6 p.m. Pacific time Friday, and also is facing felony charges of possessing and transporting a controlled substance with intent to sell.

Loaiza spent 14 seasons in the major leagues, including a brief stint in 2004 with the Yankees. The 46-year-old Mexico native also pitched for the Pirates, Blue Jays, White Sox, Nationals, Athletics and Dodgers, and went 126-144 in his career. A two-time All-Star and the second-winningest Mexican pitcher in MLB history after Fernando Valenzuela, he finished second in the American League Cy Young voting in 2003 — the year he started the All-Star Game — and earned $43.7 million as a pro.

Just a few weeks ago, Loaiza was spotted at Sox Fest in Chicago mingling with fans and signing autographs with Hall of Famer Frank Thomas.

“Greetings to everyone here with my friend and former teammate with the White Sox,” Loaiza wrote in the caption of an Instagram photo, showing him alongside Thomas.

Besides baseball, Loaiza is also known for appearing on the reality show, “I Love Jenni,” which starred his then-wife, singer Jenni Rivera. She died in a 2012 plane crash as the two were in the process of getting divorced.

The former hurler has had at least one other run-in with the law. Loaiza was charged with reckless driving and DUI in 2006, while he was playing for the Athletics.

He was pulled over early one morning for speeding after an officer caught him driving his Ferrari at speeds over 120 mph, according to the East Bay Times.

He reportedly failed his sobriety tests and spent the night in jail.

Loaiza’s agent, John Boggs, told the San Francisco Chronicle that he was unaware of the drug arrest and hadn’t spoken to him recently. It’s unclear Loaiza has hired a lawyer.

Attempts to reach him were unsuccessful.

“I am shocked and saddened by the news and had no indication he would ever be in this type of situation,” Boggs told the Chronicle. “I don’t know how he would get himself involved in this, so it’s difficult to even comment on it.”
 

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I'm the nostalgic type, so it warms the cockles of my heart to see that Tulo is already hurting. Bone spur, I believe.

Traditions are great.
 

K Douglas

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I'm the nostalgic type, so it warms the cockles of my heart to see that Tulo is already hurting. Bone spur, I believe.

Traditions are great.
I just heard that this morning. Camp hasn't even opened yet for the hitters and he's already hurt. Baseball has to get more like football and not guarantee full amounts of contracts. That way a china doll like Tulo can just be released. What's the over under on his AB this season I'll take 375.
 

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On CP24, they announced this as Marco Estrada. It lasted for for about 2 or 3 minutes and then it changed to Esteban Loaiza.

I guess the CP 24 programmer read the AP or Reuters report, saw "mexican" and former "Blue Jay" and typed in Estrada. It didn't take long to rectify this as someone on a keyboard got a swift slap to the back of the head and a clear "smarten up" in his ear.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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bluecolt

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I see that the Jays picked up Jaime Garcia for $8 mil. Good acquisition, good pitcher.
 

tribunus

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Whoop Dee Doo for Garcia.

And I can't be the only one that's sick of this little shit Stroman's diva act?
 

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On CP24, they announced this as Marco Estrada. It lasted for for about 2 or 3 minutes and then it changed to Esteban Loaiza.

I guess the CP 24 programmer read the AP or Reuters report, saw "mexican" and former "Blue Jay" and typed in Estrada. It didn't take long to rectify this as someone on a keyboard got a swift slap to the back of the head and a clear "smarten up" in his ear.
Besides baseball, Loaiza is also known for appearing on the reality show, “I Love Jenni,” which starred his then-wife, singer Jenni Rivera. She died in a 2012 plane crash as the two were in the process of getting divorced.


And this is a surprise??....

Crime connected athlete's wife mysteriously dies just when she is suing the dude for divorce (and alimony and a property settlement). Now THAT was convenient for Esteban!
 

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Nad Smith

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Maybe we can set up a gofundme kind of thing to raise the $200,000 so Stroman and the Jays could have met in the middle? Heck I made $50000 last year, spent about $1000 at Jays games, I can kick in $20 to make the team and the pitcher happy.
 

Nad Smith

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my serious point is that when you are fairly close in negotiation, you split the difference 6.7, shake hands, and go play baseball...should not have gone to arbitration
 

gcostanza

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my serious point is that when you are fairly close in negotiation, you split the difference 6.7, shake hands, and go play baseball...should not have gone to arbitration
The Atlanta baseball team went to arbitration with one of their players,
the difference there was $100.000.
The ballclub offered to split the difference, player said no.
Atlanta won the arbitration decision.
 

tml

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I think it was Shi Davidi on the FAN590 who mentioned that the number each side presents to the arbitrator is not necessarily the last number they offered in negotiations.
 

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Stroman has a lot of growing up to do. Whether he will or not is the question. The tantrum looks bad on him.
 
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