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IMO, the best coaches are the guys that were grinding, run of the mill players that had to work hard to get everything they achieved, as opposed to the naturally talented guys. You can't teach natural talent. But you can teach all those things you had to work at to become a major leaguer. Gretzky was a lousy coach. Gerard Gallant got his team to the finals in his first year in Vegas.
To add - Those types of guys are adverse to learning a new trade from the ground up and spend the required time in the minor league system plying their trade. This includes riding the buses and such. Superstars generally do not prefer to go that route.

The only star players managing I believe is Molitor and his record has been less than stellar and Mattingly, who has done a pretty good job (save for this year with the Marlins).

Hard to believe Scioscia has been managing the Angels for almost 20 years.
 

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So here is someone who fits that profile: Robbie Alomar.

Perry
How about Sandy Alomar jr.? Don't know how he is with analytics, but he is Latino and has connections to Shapiro and has been considered for managerial positions in the past.
 

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The promotion of "the kids" continues.

Sean Reid-Foley (P) & Danny Jansen (C) have joined the Blue Jays for the trip to Kansas City.
Both are expected to start Monday's game.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The promotion of "the kids" continues.

Sean Reid-Foley (P) & Danny Jansen (C) have joined the Blue Jays for the trip to Kansas City.
Both are expected to start Monday's game
Isn't it a bit odd that these guys are getting called up but Vlad jr. isnt?
 

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Isn't it a bit odd that these guys are getting called up but Vlad jr. isnt?
Not really! Jays are going no where. The longer he stays in the minor the longer it takes before he can go to arbitration re salary and the longer it is before he reaches free agency! Media reports are if he is even close to being as good as it appears he is the money he will be paid is unheard of in todays market.

also welcome back! Don't know what you did but whatever it was don't do it again!
 

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I missed you.

Next time I will aim a little lower and it won't go over your head! :abnormal:

Perry

Give Phil a break! The last month has been difficult for him - especially the last 4 or 5 days when he was constantly checking his watch and fidgeting and re reading the mods' note about when his ban would expire
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Give Phil a break! The last month has been difficult for him - especially the last 4 or 5 days when he was constantly checking his watch and fidgeting and re reading the mods' note about when his ban would expire
Says the 90-year old who's been on Terb since 2001 :biggrin1:
 

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Phil C. McNasty

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IMO, better to let him get to a point where he has more chance to do well as soon as possible instead of bringing him up too soon and then he struggles. Better to keep his confidence high
I didnt realize he was still 19 (I thought he was 21 or 22), so I have to agree with BJ front office, its better to be patient and not rush calling him up
 

Insidious Von

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Bien tornato Phil, I actually missed your shtick.

Sid Seixeiro, in a pique of handsome man envy, said that Sean Reid Foley should shave his thigh tickler. I disagree, I like his Tom Berenger (The Big Chill) look, it's retro cool. Universal approval of Danny Jansen's Goggles Paisano look.

I'm not sure Robbie would want to manage the Jays, he's got a sweet gig as a diplomat. Remember what happened when JP Ricciardi fired Buck Martinez. Joey Boom Bats would make a good batting coach. ESPN is putting pressure on the Jays, they are showing Vlad Jr highlights on American broadcasts. There's a rumour that Josh Donaldson won even get a qualifying offer in the off season. Sad to see him go this way but I hope Jackie Redmond gets her job back. There's no one better at Sid put downs than her.
 

shack

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I didnt realize he was still 19 (I thought he was 21 or 22), so I have to agree with BJ front office, its better to be patient and not rush calling him up
When you think about it, how much more benefit is it now to bring him up than next year. The season is a lost cause. Let him be ready.

Having said that, I don't see how he could not be a September call up. He wants to be here and not giving him at least a few at bats could be construed by him as being somewhat of a snub.
 
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