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Terb handle: Yes or No?

johnhenrygalt

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I never disclose my terb-name. "Johnhenrygalt" is a fictitious character and exists only to role-play on terb and merb. When I see escorts I use a different role-playing persona.
 

GPIDEAL

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If I network with a provider on Terb, and eventually book her as a result, they will know. It's also an indirect method of screening (some provider's ask what your handle is as a method of screening too).

But I don't use it like a badge or name tag.

On Twitter, it's almost a given that they will eventually know, and if your board handle is different, they can put the two together.

I say that it's nothing wrong if your association with a board improves the hobbying experience. Membership has its privileges. As long as it is not abused.

I never guarantee or promise a review even though I may repeat to visit, if I've enjoyed her company.
 

JunoxGrey

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I feel like if you told me you found me on terb and read my reviews but refuse to give a handle you have something to hide and I won't book you. If you're that protective over you're anonymous persona I automatically assume you're a) trolling b)someone I refuse to see c) post extremely negative things and should get a new hobby (no pun intended)
 

sempel

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Same here, nothing to hide. Some Lady’s have asked, or actually, if they advertise here, I let them know I found them on here. Same with twitter handle, I let her know it was a specific post or pic that got me interested.
+1.

Coincidentally, I was just asked for my handle to be used as a reference. How I handle myself online is similar to how I handle myself in person so nothing wrong with that.
I think most ladies that see me would state in person I'm totally different (in a good way).

Essguy, agree with what you wrote. I likewise, see dropping a TERB or MERB handle as being a not quite so veiled hint that I expect preferential treatment or I'l post negative comments. Hence I've never even mentioned either board unless asked, and that has happened perhaps twice.
Some guys do this to "push" for a better session. That is wrong. Conversely, a lady who provides better service for some versus others is just as wrong. I'm not talking ymmv but the same good treatment should be given to all clients.

Some clients like to be able to write anonymous reviews without the SP knowing his Terb handle. I don't know why that is hard for some people to understand.

Sometimes they fear that if they say anything even remotely negative about the SP, she will refuse to see him again.
If I have an issue with an SP and I want to see her again, I either let it pass or I can take it up with her privately. If I choose to air a grievance publicly, I'm accountable for my comments/criticism. Face it, you wouldn't say some things in person because the reaction would be bad. Probably a sign that you shouldn't publish it for others to read.

Sex workers are far more likely to be victims of sexual violence.

When you have a board whose membership will make threads and posts denouncing rape victims, I can't say I blame them.

By that same token, there are a few SPs I would consider to be a solid avoid based on their behavior on this and other boards.
Yes, some SP's make their case, some break it by how they conduct themselves.

Still no post to this thread by the guy(s) (cough cough) who without shame, mention that they bring up TERB as part of sessions pretty regularly.

Or those that seem to use messaging here to develop or foster provider/client relationships.
Hardly in the lounge. And let's be frank, most ladies I see have been contacted via Terb. What's the big deal in bringing it up? Can't bring it up with friends, family and SO's. If I'm running a poll, I go direct to the source.
I don't have to talk about Terb. I can talk about anything. But no issue in bringing it up and even telling a lady to read some of my stuff. Own it. But note, I bring it up at the end to discuss threads, the industry, etc. Never used it as a ploy to get "better" service - I expect great service period because I'm a paying customer.

BTW, not sure why the cough cough. If you want to call me out, don't hide behind that. Just proves how some people enjoy being negative but try and hide behind handles and indirect references to other users.

nothing fucks up your will and ability to post an honest review as remembering that you have stupidly disclosed your handle
A huge issue nowadays is people hiding behind anonymity. It gives people the opportunity to say whatever with little accountability. If I write a review, I'm honest and accountable.

If you are honest and fair, you shouldn't have a problem. If you are deceitful, you deserve your just desserts. But it really comes down to how you treat a lady and respect her. If I see a lady and I write something bad, why am I seeing her again? Aren't i treating her as a sex object?

I feel like if you told me you found me on terb and read my reviews but refuse to give a handle you have something to hide and I won't book you. If you're that protective over you're anonymous persona I automatically assume you're a) trolling b)someone I refuse to see c) post extremely negative things and should get a new hobby (no pun intended)
Well said.
 

managee

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If I have an issue with an SP and I want to see her again, I either let it pass or I can take it up with her privately. If I choose to air a grievance publicly, I'm accountable for my comments/criticism. Face it, you wouldn't say some things in person because the reaction would be bad. Probably a sign that you shouldn't publish it for others to read.



A huge issue nowadays is people hiding behind anonymity. It gives people the opportunity to say whatever with little accountability. If I write a review, I'm honest and accountable.

If you are honest and fair, you shouldn't have a problem. If you are deceitful, you deserve your just desserts. But it really comes down to how you treat a lady and respect her. If I see a lady and I write something bad, why am I seeing her again? Aren't i treating her as a sex object?
With certainty, there are going to be exceptions to public airing of a grievance in disputes where the larger TERB community need not weigh in on, but if something stunk about a session, keeping that out of a positive review harms, not helps this community.

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You mention deceit later in your post. And clearly honesty is important to you.

But unfortunately, not every session is a good one, as you know all too well. Dealing with all grievances privately would to me, be deceitful, at-least in the spirit of a TERB review. The bad reviews are just as important as the good ones. Speaking for myself, I appreciate the first negative review more than I appreciate the second positive review.

Can you truly be objective as a reviewer without the veil of anonymity? On the other hand, do you actually expect a session to be unaffected by the Hawthorne effect (or whatever) if TERB is brought up at any point?

Mentioning she had cigarettes on her breath, or too many tattoos, or too much stubble, or too much (or not enough) makeup, or she wasn’t ‘clean’ enough, or the incall had shit parking, or there was a stain on the bed or a condom in the toilet, or [insert reason] helps the Board, which is where I would hope our allegiances lie.

Nobody likes to hear their favourite provider being trashed, particularly when you see it, for whatever reason as untrue, but that’s the beauty of a Board like this. That “Reply with Quote” icon beckons white knights...
 

Samranchoi

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That “Reply with Quote” icon beckons white knights...
........or those with "an axe to grind"/ulterior motives against the SP or the person that was quoted.
 

managee

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........or those with "an axe to grind"/ulterior motives against the SP or the person that was quoted.
No doubt. But luckily... “Reply with Quote.”

It doesn’t usually take more than a couple back-and-forths when they do happen for at-least me to know whether and what to disregard.

The bane and boon of the Internet. We get access to more, not necessarily better. Stay frosty and you win.
 

Jasmine Raine

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I give the option of using a review board handle has part of my screening. I prefer when men do that because I like to read about them. What they like, don't like, see if we are compatible. I really really hate having my time wasted. I hate having encounters that are not enjoyable and I do everything in my power to ensure that all my dates are with like minded people so that I can avoid unpleasant romps.

I will decide whether I want to see a client based on his postings, but if I am only seeing maybe 3-4 guys a month, I want them to be as enjoyable as possible. This really is more like a sideline paid dating type thing for me. I am not available to everyone. Also, most of my clients are gentlemen that come to my private home. I am not opening my doors or pussy to a guy that I can't stand to type with in a random thread on TERB. If we can't get past the typing, we are not getting into bed together.

I do understand the desire of being anonymous, and that is why I offer different options for screening. However, having a TERB handle and provider references get you vetted faster then say using employment verification as your screening choice. Why? Because reading what you write personally is important.

As far as reviews are concerned, I do know that some men will say right away that the girls knows he is on TERB. I think that is important and can go along way in you personally weighing the validity of the review.

So I think if being used properly, disclosing your handle can be a good thing, but like all things in life, some people will use and abuse it. And that is on both sides of the coin. Men will use their TERB handle as leverage for extra time or services. Girls, if they know, can make sure to give their "A" game. All of this true, but we have to navigate that like anything else in life.
 

sempel

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With certainty, there are going to be exceptions to public airing of a grievance in disputes where the larger TERB community need not weigh in on, but if something stunk about a session, keeping that out of a positive review harms, not helps this community.

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You mention deceit later in your post. And clearly honesty is important to you.

But unfortunately, not every session is a good one, as you know all too well. Dealing with all grievances privately would to me, be deceitful, at-least in the spirit of a TERB review. The bad reviews are just as important as the good ones. Speaking for myself, I appreciate the first negative review more than I appreciate the second positive review.

Can you truly be objective as a reviewer without the veil of anonymity? On the other hand, do you actually expect a session to be unaffected by the Hawthorne effect (or whatever) if TERB is brought up at any point?

Mentioning she had cigarettes on her breath, or too many tattoos, or too much stubble, or too much (or not enough) makeup, or she wasn’t ‘clean’ enough, or the incall had shit parking, or there was a stain on the bed or a condom in the toilet, or [insert reason] helps the Board, which is where I would hope our allegiances lie.

Nobody likes to hear their favourite provider being trashed, particularly when you see it, for whatever reason as untrue, but that’s the beauty of a Board like this. That “Reply with Quote” icon beckons white knights...
When I say deceit I mean lies, omissions, etc
Some guys will write "lady didn't kiss" but conveniently don't mention they showed up with bad breath and sores.

If I see a lady I'm going to write a fair and unbiased review, mostly factual and relevant information. If I experienced something minor and fixable, and I want to see her again, the better course of action is for me to provide private constructive criticism, not publicly denounce her. If you had an amazing time but lady had cigarette breath, why not tell her during, after, or privately message her/agency? Hopefully she will remedy. Now if you see her again and she has cigarette breath, let people know because she has an ongoing issue.

That's why I think many people choose to either remain anonymous or even say they aren't on Terb - they want the luxury of being able to point a finger but not have it pointed back. They want the luxury of going back to a provider after saying something bad about her in an anonymous review. To me that's cowardly.

Hawthorne effect - may apply, may not. I think a professional should provide A level service to every client. It seems less professional to offer different service levels to clients based solely on whether they review or not.

I get the feeling some guys think they are like food critics. Sorry but I don't think anyone is being paid to go see a lady to find out what her average service is like to report on Terb. I actually think I can be completely objective as a reviewer - I tell it like it is. I tell ladies to read the reviews I write.

"Too many tats" - according to whom? People should just say "girl has lots/some/a couple/no tats". It's all the information we need.

Please understand I'm not saying people shouldn't write bad things - they can and should but be fair and objective
What I don't like are negative opinions about looks. Not only are they hurtful, they are the reviewers opinion - let each person come to their own conclusion.
 

sempel

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I give the option of using a review board handle has part of my screening. I prefer when men do that because I like to read about them. What they like, don't like, see if we are compatible. I really really hate having my time wasted. I hate having encounters that are not enjoyable and I do everything in my power to ensure that all my dates are with like minded people so that I can avoid unpleasant romps.

I will decide whether I want to see a client based on his postings, but if I am only seeing maybe 3-4 guys a month, I want them to be as enjoyable as possible. This really is more like a sideline paid dating type thing for me. I am not available to everyone. Also, most of my clients are gentlemen that come to my private home. I am not opening my doors or pussy to a guy that I can't stand to type with in a random thread on TERB. If we can't get past the typing, we are not getting into bed together.

I do understand the desire of being anonymous, and that is why I offer different options for screening. However, having a TERB handle and provider references get you vetted faster then say using employment verification as your screening choice. Why? Because reading what you write personally is important.

As far as reviews are concerned, I do know that some men will say right away that the girls knows he is on TERB. I think that is important and can go along way in you personally weighing the validity of the review.

So I think if being used properly, disclosing your handle can be a good thing, but like all things in life, some people will use and abuse it. And that is on both sides of the coin. Men will use their TERB handle as leverage for extra time or services. Girls, if they know, can make sure to give their "A" game. All of this true, but we have to navigate that like anything else in life.
I agree with everything but as mentioned, A game should be given to every client. I'm not talking ymmv stuff, but a professional should be consistent. It's wrong if a lady provides lfk to all but makes an exception for a reviewer - either all get lfk or all dfk (assuming same level of comfort and cleanliness). Like any business, treat customers the same. And the way I see it, it makes the most sense to treat EVERY client as if they are a reviewer.
 

managee

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When I say deceit I mean lies, omissions, etc
Some guys will write "lady didn't kiss" but conveniently don't mention they showed up with bad breath and sores.

If I see a lady I'm going to write a fair and unbiased review, mostly factual and relevant information. If I experienced something minor and fixable, and I want to see her again, the better course of action is for me to provide private constructive criticism, not publicly denounce her. If you had an amazing time but lady had cigarette breath, why not tell her during, after, or privately message her/agency? Hopefully she will remedy. Now if you see her again and she has cigarette breath, let people know because she has an ongoing issue.

That's why I think many people choose to either remain anonymous or even say they aren't on Terb - they want the luxury of being able to point a finger but not have it pointed back. They want the luxury of going back to a provider after saying something bad about her in an anonymous review. To me that's cowardly.

Hawthorne effect - may apply, may not. I think a professional should provide A level service to every client. It seems less professional to offer different service levels to clients based solely on whether they review or not.

I get the feeling some guys think they are like food critics. Sorry but I don't think anyone is being paid to go see a lady to find out what her average service is like to report on Terb. I actually think I can be completely objective as a reviewer - I tell it like it is. I tell ladies to read the reviews I write.

"Too many tats" - according to whom? People should just say "girl has lots/some/a couple/no tats". It's all the information we need.

Please understand I'm not saying people shouldn't write bad things - they can and should but be fair and objective
What I don't like are negative opinions about looks. Not only are they hurtful, they are the reviewers opinion - let each person come to their own conclusion.
I feel that inevitably, we’ll need to agree to disagree on this one.



I’m a bit confused as to whether you feel omission is deceit.



This entire board runs on subjective criticism. A provider who chooses to continue smoking, despite your (hypothetical) private constructive criticism puts a future anti-smoker client’s (good) session in jeopardy. No different for a few vs. some vs. too many tattoos... It’s very post-truth.

Tell us how YOU feel, not what you think a provider wants you to tell the Board.

Maybe I’m wrong, but from what I understand, the purpose of a review isn’t to increase sales... leave that for the “reviews” that get posted to provider or agency-run websites that many of us take/read with a justifiable grain of salt.

The purpose of a review is to help members make an informed decision knowing full-well the limitations of a discretion-oriented profile.

Every aspect of a review is subjective. Assuming that ANY of your tastes are universal is juvenile.

At our very best, we can hope to be objective. But I imagine few of us believe any review, except our own, is truly objective. It’s a journey....not a destination.

Some use numbers, some don’t - either way, it doesn’t matter. Acronyms, comparatives, opinions, and approximate descriptions help. Leaving something out that you privately criticized, most of the time, does not.

Please don’t post deceitful reviews.
 

sempel

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I feel that inevitably, we’ll need to agree to disagree on this one.



I’m a bit confused as to whether you feel omission is deceit.



This entire board runs on subjective criticism. A provider who chooses to continue smoking, despite your (hypothetical) private constructive criticism puts a future anti-smoker client’s (good) session in jeopardy. No different for a few vs. some vs. too many tattoos... It’s very post-truth.

Tell us how YOU feel, not what you think a provider wants you to tell the Board.

Maybe I’m wrong, but from what I understand, the purpose of a review isn’t to increase sales... leave that for the “reviews” that get posted to provider or agency-run websites that many of us take/read with a justifiable grain of salt.

The purpose of a review is to help members make an informed decision knowing full-well the limitations of a discretion-oriented profile.

Every aspect of a review is subjective. Assuming that ANY of your tastes are universal is juvenile.

At our very best, we can hope to be objective. But I imagine few of us believe any review, except our own, is truly objective. It’s a journey....not a destination.

Some use numbers, some don’t - either way, it doesn’t matter. Acronyms, comparatives, opinions, and approximate descriptions help. Leaving something out that you privately criticized, most of the time, does not.

Please don’t post deceitful reviews.
We aren't disagreeing - we are arguing two different things

When I say deceit, I mean lies/omissions by the reviewer in order to avoid making the reviewer look bad. They make it appear the provider was bad when they are partly or fully to blame. They fail to account for their own actions.
When you say deceit, you mean lies of omission that either make the provider look good/bad, mostly bad (can be good - I got BBBJ but don't mention an upcharge)

Reviews help make informed decisions but they are also a marketing tool to increase sales. That's why SP's want more positive reviews being written.

Even reviews on Terb are suspect. You don't know the guy's mindset or he could be deceitful. So one positive/negative review means nothing. One should be looking for multiple reviews/patterns (10 guys agreed with the review for instance). Of course, if you think someone is credible based either on how the review was written or you've personally verified it's accuracy by seeing the lady, you can also base decisions on that. I admittedly post a ton of opinions in various threads, but my reviews are fair and objective and some people recognize it. I do get a couple of recommendation requests a week so some people believe I am credible.

I think there's a nicer and better way of approaching negativity. We should be giving providers the opportunity to remedy an issue and not presume it's an ongoing thing (except bad attitude - that is unacceptable). My suggestion is to take it up with the provider directly especially if you plan to see her again. No point in publicly airing it and hoping she will either clue in or see the review. That said, if you do choose to make note of it in a review, at least put in that you mentioned it to her so it's clear she knows there was an issue. The same is true of agencies and spas. If you had an issue and the organization remedied it, no need to mention it. Should you feel the need to, at least put down that it was remedied too.

Of course there will be a certain amount of subjectivity and opinion. All I'm saying is people need to limit it and be more factual. Suppose I'm ok with a few tats but not a fan if a woman's mostly inked. If I see a review say "too many tats", I probably won't see the girl. However, suppose the reviewer only likes 1 or 2 tats and she had 3 or 4. For him, that's too many, but for me, it's perfectly acceptable. It clearly works much better if he writes "3 or 4 tats located XXXX" - then, if he wants, he can state whether that was a turnoff for him or not. But the rest of us can make a more informed decision that isn't based on his opinion and his preferences. Heck, if you want, write everything as fact/opinion (She had long brown hair - I liked. She had 2 tattoos - I thought they were gawdy. She smelled of body lotion - I liked the scent chosen). Now somebody else can get a clear/fair picture.

Lastly, to come back to the thread topic, my issue is with guys who want to remain anonymous because they view it as a way to criticize someone/something and not be accountable i.e. no consequences upon repeat. I call BS on anybody who states they want to remain anonymous because they hope for an impartial view of the lady - they aren't there with the selfless ideal of seeing a lady just to write a fair and objective review - they are there for a good time and hope to receive the best service possible. By remaining anonymous, they hope to be able to avoid a drop in service. Now for some, it may be the belief that they'll be seen as frequent hobbyists. For most though, it's so they have the ability to post what they want without fear of repercussions. If I posted something negative about my ATF and she found out, would she see me again? Probably not. So I basically am avoiding the confrontation.

If a lady asks me my handle, I give it. Sometimes it comes up, sometimes it's just talking about Terb, sometimes I give it and say read my shit. I am not ashamed of my opinions - again some are out there, some are total BS, but some get people thinking. At the same time, I doubt any guy here wouldn't provide the info if there was some material benefit - a discount, better/more service, etc. I see no issue with a guy taking advantage of it IF the lady asks - as I stated the lady shouldn't be doing this and should provide every guy with A-level service. It's different if you use it as leverage - that's wrong. At the same time, some ladies and spas have offered discounts to Terb members - not sure whether the id was needed but I presume it was. Don't see too many guys passing it up just to remain anonymous (of course they could easily set up a second username).
 

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Every aspect of a review is subjective. Assuming that ANY of your tastes are universal is juvenile.

At our very best, we can hope to be objective. But I imagine few of us believe any review, except our own, is truly objective. It’s a journey....not a destination.

Some use numbers, some don’t - either way, it doesn’t matter. Acronyms, comparatives, opinions, and approximate descriptions help. Leaving something out that you privately criticized, most of the time, does not.
Agree. Every review has to be taken with a grain of salt because they are subjective based upon the reviewers tastes. That's why every first meeting is still a roll of the dice because ultimately your own tastes are unique. Eventually you will find reviewers who have a similar taste and style to your own and then you can weight their views a little higher than others. Anyway, I started this thread because I have never been asked if I'm a TERB member during an appointment. It's just never come up in conversation. And since I've never been asked, I never thought to bring it up. I don't go into an appointment with my "essguy_" identity leading the way. I use my real first name and we go from there. If it ever came up, I guess I have nothing to hide - but it has never come up!
 

sempel

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Agree. Every review has to be taken with a grain of salt because they are subjective based upon the reviewers tastes. That's why every first meeting is still a roll of the dice because ultimately your own tastes are unique. Eventually you will find reviewers who have a similar taste and style to your own and then you can weight their views a little higher than others. Anyway, I started this thread because I have never been asked if I'm a TERB member during an appointment. It's just never come up in conversation. And since I've never been asked, I never thought to bring it up. I don't go into an appointment with my "essguy_" identity leading the way. I use my real first name and we go from there. If it ever came up, I guess I have nothing to hide - but it has never come up!
Nobody's directly asked me either. Most ladies have been contacted via Terb or its been included as part of the screening info. I've probably only stated it during an appointment once or twice. Regardless if you have nothing to hide, I don't know why bother with hiding it.

I'll fully admit bringing up Terb or bringing up more "sexual" conversation. It's not that I mind discussing hobbies, travel, TV, etc. But TBH it's kind of fluff. I take the opportunity to ask personal questions, ask about feelings, etc. IMO there's that certain group of conversation that is small talk and when that's all we discuss it seems less GFE and just FE or AE(acquaintance experience). Call me a sap but I like to feel the lady is interested in me just like I'm interested in her. Some ladies say they feel like the guy doesn't care but it's important that they don't pull the same crap.
 

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I take the opportunity to ask personal questions, ask about feelings, etc. IMO there's that certain group of conversation that is small talk and when that's all we discuss it seems less GFE and just FE or AE(acquaintance experience). Call me a sap but I like to feel the lady is interested in me just like I'm interested in her. Some ladies say they feel like the guy doesn't care but it's important that they don't pull the same crap.
I’m not calling you a sap, but it seems like you could really use a girlfriend or something in your life. They’ll wind up costing you just as much per SOG, but you won’t need to be constantly reminded by your brain, or the TERB community that she’s not actually interested in you - physically, emotionally or socially. That’s why you need to pay $$$ to spend any time with her.

I know there’s always an exception, but when she told you that you had the biggest cock she’d ever seen, or you’re the funniest person she’d ever met, or you just gave her the best orgasm of the hour/day/week/month/year/ever or you’re her favourite most sweetest custy she’s ever had, or how much she loves your hair, balls, eyes, tongue or whatever, it’s part of a routine meant to mimic (not replicate) a common (at-least to me) experience. Even if she starts a confession with “I haven’t told any other customer this, but you Blah Blah Blah.” Replication would involve more yelling and less screaming than I’d want in a session.

What the actual fuck would an FE or AE be like?

I mean, I get the cudlding ads in the banner, but if you just want to hang out with women, it feels like there are some pretty obvious, safer and cheaper ways to interact with them. Take a cooking class, get into yoga or get on Bumble. Waaay more fun than this hobby and this place if that’s what you really want out of a session.
 

sempel

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I’m not calling you a sap, but it seems like you could really use a girlfriend or something in your life. They’ll wind up costing you just as much per SOG, but you won’t need to be constantly reminded by your brain, or the TERB community that she’s not actually interested in you - physically, emotionally or socially. That’s why you need to pay $$$ to spend any time with her.

I know there’s always an exception, but when she told you that you had the biggest cock she’d ever seen, or you’re the funniest person she’d ever met, or you just gave her the best orgasm of the hour/day/week/month/year/ever or you’re her favourite most sweetest custy she’s ever had, or how much she loves your hair, balls, eyes, tongue or whatever, it’s part of a routine meant to mimic (not replicate) a common (at-least to me) experience. Even if she starts a confession with “I haven’t told any other customer this, but you Blah Blah Blah.” Replication would involve more yelling and less screaming than I’d want in a session.

What the actual fuck would an FE or AE be like?

I mean, I get the cudlding ads in the banner, but if you just want to hang out with women, it feels like there are some pretty obvious, safer and cheaper ways to interact with them. Take a cooking class, get into yoga or get on Bumble. Waaay more fun than this hobby and this place if that’s what you really want out of a session.
All I'm saying is that a complaint many SP's make, either in person or on Terb, is that many or even the majority of customers treat them as sex objects or robots. It's clear from the get go they just want to do the deed, they want to hit we many acronyms as possible and really care nothing for the SP as a human being. Some guys probably think this is ok because that's what they are paying for.

I'm just saying it's not the greatest feeling when the lady has no feeling / passion and doesn't show any regard for the guy as a human being. She's cold, distant, and while she doesn't restrict you can tell she doesn't want to be there and is just doing whatever so you get your fix and get out. Like being with a corpse.

If you are talking with a lady about herself, her feelings and thoughts, that's GFE. If you are sticking to small talk (weather, TV, etc) it's FE/AE. Some ladies open up as an appointment goes on while some just say little and remain guarded. I've got enough people to talk to about nothing so if that's what a lady discusses I don't see any connection developing. I think we can all agree connection is important.

I'm not asking for my ego to be stroked. That BS sucking up is a waste of breath. I just like to get the feeling she's interested in me (fake or real) instead of a "hi", "there's the shower", and straight to it (I know for some this is ideal). I think with some ladies there is a natural chemistry / connection so no chat at the beginning is needed but if all one gets is "do you want to shower?" and "nice meeting you " at the end it doesn't feel good. Now you are nothing more than a paycheck.
 
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