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Imagine Escaping a Hurricane in a Tesla

First I want to make it clear that I think Tesla responded to Hurricane Irma with exemplary good faith, sacrificing their future profits to send drivers of cheaper Tesla models a free range upgrade, to help them escape Hurricane Irma. But the urgent Florida hurricane evacuation may have inadvertently highlighted an unexpected and potentially catastrophic risk associated with government policies which seek to switch drivers to electric vehicles.


How did Tesla make some of its cars travel further during Hurricane Irma?

The electric-car giant gave customers a lifeline by remotely boosting their vehicles’ battery capacity. But this act of kindness also highlighted that it had been selling identical cars at different prices

Tesla drivers who fled Hurricane Irma last weekend received an unexpected lesson in modern consumer economics along the way. As they sat on choked highways, some of the electric-car giant’s more keenly priced models suddenly gained an extra 30 or so miles in range thanks to a silent free upgrade.

The move, confirmed by Tesla, followed the request of one Florida driver for a limit on his car’s battery to be lifted. Tesla’s cheaper models, introduced last year, have the same 75KwH battery as its more costly cars, but software limits it to 80% of range. Owners can otherwise buy an upgrade for several thousands of dollars. And because Teslas software updates are online, the company can make the changes with the flick of a virtual switch.

Why do I think owning an electric car is a risk?

The distance between Miami and Valdosta, just over the border in Georgia, is 439 miles.

According to Wikipedia, the maximum range of a Tesla Model S car is just over 300 miles, though many electric cars have a much lower range, 100 – 150 miles being common.

This 300 miles maximum represents the range of a top electric car in perfect driving conditions. I suspect in the stop / start traffic jam conditions of the Florida Hurricane Irma evacuation, the range of even the best electric cars would be substantially reduced.

I don’t know how many car drivers heeded the call to evacuate. But at the height of the Hurricane Irma crisis, according to CNBC twelve million Florida residents were ordered to leave.

A gasoline car typically has 300 – 400 miles range. Unlike an electric car, a gasoline car can be fully refuelled in minutes. Refuelling lots of gasoline cars does not place a massive strain on the electric grid. If fuel stations are too busy, a well prepared gasoline car driver can carry their own refill in the trunk – a few cans of gasoline would almost double that 400 mile range, for the price of a quick 5 minute stop by the side of the road.

Imagine if the government banned gasoline cars, so all privately owned cars were electric. Imagine if every one of those evacuees had an electric car. Imagine the chaos if millions of electric cars pulled up at the same roadside charging stations at the same time, each expecting their half hour “fast” recharge, each driver utterly desperate to bring their families to safety before the hurricane struck.
 

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I love my rumbling gas guzzling V8!
This is the exact kind of statement that hinders progress. Too many people in the West are in love with the gas / diesel engines, they will make any execuse not to move forward. The truth of the matter is that they love the smell of gas, love the rumbling of engine, the vibration, love to shift gears etc. Much less people have the same sentiment in China where all their cars will be EVs within 10 years, whereas we westerners will be forever be stuck in the fossil fuel age.
 

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Imagine Escaping a Hurricane in a Tesla

A gasoline car typically has 300 – 400 miles range. Unlike an electric car, a gasoline car can be fully refuelled in minutes. Refuelling lots of gasoline cars does not place a massive strain on the electric grid. If fuel stations are too busy, a well prepared gasoline car driver can carry their own refill in the trunk – a few cans of gasoline would almost double that 400 mile range, for the price of a quick 5 minute stop by the side of the road.
In fact millions of gasoline cars were abandoned in Hurricane Harvey because the quick 5 min stop by gas station turns into 1 hour wait, only to find out there is no power to pump gas, or out of gas. In disaster situation, being prepared to evacuate early is the best option. If you wait till the last minute, no matter what car you have it's too late.
 

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The problem with many people is that they are not prepared. I think everyone knows a gas light straddler who drives on fumes. 99.9% it's fine. They know their car and know it will make it the next day to the nearest station. But when something weird happens, they're fucked.

I typically fill my tank when there's about 20% left on the ticker. That should get me around 100 km, which should be good enough to get out of town. And then find another station that is still up and running.

What probably happened is that all the people with hardly any gas left gave up their car due to time.
 

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Yes, but all fuel types have had problems to overcome. Electric cars are new technology. Combustion engines are old technology. You're not comparing apples to apples.
 

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Most of the people who live there are idiots
There is a difference between a national disaster that is a random act of god and a national disaster that is a yearly event they can print on a calendar

Seriously who is stupid enough to buy a home when the disclosure sheet states they have been in the path of 5+ hurricanes and house was rebuilt twice
I mean I know we mock southerners intelligence but this is a bit much
 

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Most of the people who live there are idiots
There is a difference between a national disaster that is a random act of god and a national disaster that is a yearly event they can print on a calendar

Seriously who is stupid enough to buy a home when the disclosure sheet states they have been in the path of 5+ hurricanes and house was rebuilt twice
I mean I know we mock southerners intelligence but this is a bit much
I never understood this either.

Every year, some states, cities or countries get hit with the cyclical typhoons, monsoons, tornadoes etc.... Things get blown apart and the first thing people do is rebuild it only to get hit a few years later.

Or people who built their homes/villages near flood zones or at the bottom of a mountain which is begging for a landslide.
 

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^^^^
I have to agree.
 

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Most of the people who live there are idiots
There is a difference between a national disaster that is a random act of god and a national disaster that is a yearly event they can print on a calendar

Seriously who is stupid enough to buy a home when the disclosure sheet states they have been in the path of 5+ hurricanes and house was rebuilt twice
I mean I know we mock southerners intelligence but this is a bit much
By your logic, the entire population of Japan is idiots because they choose to live in the most natural disasterous area in the world, with frequent earthquake, tsunami, volcanos - Tokyo is right under mount fuji, and typhoons. They should simply abandon the whole island and relocate to safer countries?
 

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Much of the gasoline you use to run your ICE cars are produced by refineries powered by coal plants as well.
I could be wrong,... but I really doubt that is the case in Canada.
 

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Most of the people who live there are idiots
There is a difference between a national disaster that is a random act of god and a national disaster that is a yearly event they can print on a calendar

Seriously who is stupid enough to buy a home when the disclosure sheet states they have been in the path of 5+ hurricanes and house was rebuilt twice
I mean I know we mock southerners intelligence but this is a bit much
Plus when they hear that you live in Canada they say, "How can you live there? It is so cold."
 

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This is the exact kind of statement that hinders progress. Too many people in the West are in love with the gas / diesel engines, they will make any execuse not to move forward. The truth of the matter is that they love the smell of gas, love the rumbling of engine, the vibration, love to shift gears etc.
There you go again... You just don't get it. People will switch when they makes sense, not before. You can't force people to buy EVs when their living situation provides no means to charge them.

Much less people have the same sentiment in China where all their cars will be EVs within 10 years, whereas we westerners will be forever be stuck in the fossil fuel age.
That's funny. You want to put money on that?
 

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There you go again... You just don't get it. People will switch when they makes sense, not before. You can't force people to buy EVs when their living situation provides no means to charge them.



That's funny. You want to put money on that?
No one is forcing anyone to buy what you don't want. As I already said, if you live in condo or require frequent long trips, EVs are not for you at the moment. However, many more are not buying EVs for WRONG misinformed reasons.

Yes. I do. I bought lithium stocks in anticipation of increased demand. Already in massive profit!
 
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